kisamexRocks
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Hey thanks man, I guess I should prepare for the other 457364587345 threads that are about to be made!The second hokage's first name is "Tobirama"
[Theory] Insane Theory on who Tobi really is
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Hipster Madara
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wait a minute was the 2nd ever married cuz i dont remember hearing anything about that lol tobirama=tobi that would be overlooking the obvious anyways i dont think that the second hokage would go crazy if his brother died because he didn't seem like the crazy while nagato was obviously coo coo but all is possible lol i can't beleive we have to wait 3 weeks for new manga. this better be darn good chapter kishi
lol tobirama=tobi that would be overlooking the obvious anyways i dont think that the second hokage would go crazy if his brother died because he didn't seem like the crazy while nagato was obviously coo coo but all is possible lol i can't beleive we have to wait 3 weeks for new manga. this better be darn good chapter kishi
jinchuuriki alitis
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i dont think that tobi is the 2nd hokage because if tobirama isnt dead how oro was able to summon his soul with edo tensei!
theory not valid! sorry
theory not valid! sorry
I know that was the only problem i had with my theory. & i have been thinking of ways of how he could do it 1 way i thought of is something like the 4th Hokage did the 4th did split his spirit in 2 most of his spirit died when he sealed the Kyuubi but he left a little of his spirit in Naruto it was not enough to where he could make a physical form out side of Naruto's body but remember what Kabuto said the 2nd had Summoning: Impure World Resurrection jutsu so maybe with his knowledge of the after life he found a way to split himself without dying. As to why he would split himself i have no idea.i dont think that tobi is the 2nd hokage because if tobirama isnt dead how oro was able to summon his soul with edo tensei!
theory not valid! sorry
& there is 1 thing Tobi told Kakashi the reason he is getting all the tailed beasts is to become complete
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silenceofthelambs
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It's an interesting thought, but in the end this theory just does not add up. Here are the reasons why: the masked man from Akatsuki was recognized by Kisame Hoshigaki as one of the former Mizukage, though it is unclear which. If he were really Tobirama, why would he go to such lengths to become Kage of another country, for undisclosed reasons entirely?
Tobirama was already the Second Hokage of Konoha - for what purpose would he even need to travel to Kirigakure, and become their leader? There was no time in his life to pull off such an enormous task anyway. He was still Hokage when he sacrificed himself to save his squad; was he really Mizukage at the same time? Extremely unlikely.
Next, this mysterious Akatsuki figure has the Sharingan, as we've seen it many times through his mask. How did Tobirama get the Sharingan? For example, refer to this chapter, or many others, for evidence.
Continuing on, why is Tobirama (if it is indeed him) collecting the tailed beasts? Aside from "being complete," which does not match up with any event in Tobirama's life that would drive him to do such things, he was also a Hokage of Konoha, and thus had deep loyalty to his village. Why would he plot against his own village?
Also, if the masked man, the mastermind of Akatsuki, was responsible for creating the organization, when did Tobirama bring it forth into the ninja world?
And lastly, if Tobirama is this masked person from Akatsuki, clearly still alive, how was Tobirama himself summoned by Orochimaru when fighting Hiruzen Sarutobi, the Third Hokage?
Would Danzo not recognize his own teammate (voice, battle style) when confronting him, both during the Uchiha massacre and during the present?
There are too many inconsistencies with this theory. It was an interesting idea, yes, but it just doesn't work. One thing I don't understand, though, is why people find it so hard to believe that Tobi is Madara. Numerous characters recognize him as Madara, and there would be no way for it to be anyone else. Who else would possess such extensive knowledge on Konoha's founding?
Who would know the truth about Itachi and the Uchiha massacre, the Sage of the Six Paths, the origin of the Uchiha and Senju clans, and all the other people he's confronted during his lifetime? Perhaps Kishimoto has a giant twist planned ahead in the story, but for now Tobi is Madara unless stated otherwise.
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Tobirama was already the Second Hokage of Konoha - for what purpose would he even need to travel to Kirigakure, and become their leader? There was no time in his life to pull off such an enormous task anyway. He was still Hokage when he sacrificed himself to save his squad; was he really Mizukage at the same time? Extremely unlikely.
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Next, this mysterious Akatsuki figure has the Sharingan, as we've seen it many times through his mask. How did Tobirama get the Sharingan? For example, refer to this chapter, or many others, for evidence.
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Continuing on, why is Tobirama (if it is indeed him) collecting the tailed beasts? Aside from "being complete," which does not match up with any event in Tobirama's life that would drive him to do such things, he was also a Hokage of Konoha, and thus had deep loyalty to his village. Why would he plot against his own village?
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Also, if the masked man, the mastermind of Akatsuki, was responsible for creating the organization, when did Tobirama bring it forth into the ninja world?
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And lastly, if Tobirama is this masked person from Akatsuki, clearly still alive, how was Tobirama himself summoned by Orochimaru when fighting Hiruzen Sarutobi, the Third Hokage?
You must be registered for see links
Would Danzo not recognize his own teammate (voice, battle style) when confronting him, both during the Uchiha massacre and during the present?
You must be registered for see links
There are too many inconsistencies with this theory. It was an interesting idea, yes, but it just doesn't work. One thing I don't understand, though, is why people find it so hard to believe that Tobi is Madara. Numerous characters recognize him as Madara, and there would be no way for it to be anyone else. Who else would possess such extensive knowledge on Konoha's founding?
Who would know the truth about Itachi and the Uchiha massacre, the Sage of the Six Paths, the origin of the Uchiha and Senju clans, and all the other people he's confronted during his lifetime? Perhaps Kishimoto has a giant twist planned ahead in the story, but for now Tobi is Madara unless stated otherwise.