[Theory] !! Indra's Transmigrants !!

[dark legion]

“Accept your dark side, understanding it will help you to move with the light. Knowing both sides of our souls, helps us all to move forward in life and to understand that, perfection doesn't exist - Martin R. Lemieux”

it's like a YIn-Yang metaphor!

OT: I like the conclusion !! that means that if sasuke doesn't cooperate and fail , a new indra will be born from another clan , !! since there are no uchiha left ! seems legit !+rep

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

Amazing theory! It seems like a likely explanation for it all! +rep! =D

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Great read man, Nice job!

 

[minamoto]

!! The purpose of this theory is to identify the importance of Indra's Transmigrants !!

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The Transmigrants

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When considering transmigration our body and mind are two separate entities. Even when our body disintegrates at death, the continuum of the mind remains unbroken. Instead of ceasing, the mind simply leaves the present body and goes to the next life.

The transmigrants are not chosen by bloodline but their ideals :

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Note : Naruto followed the footsteps of Ashura with the help of others

On the other hand Sasuke believes that power is the key to bring peace to the world :

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Note : The common belief between Indra and Sasuke

Although the brothers destroyed each other, their chakra transmigrated onto the future generation :

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Note : Indras chakra passed down along with Ashura

- The brothers had different views about peace, which led to the conflict between them -

Indra and The Uchiha Clan

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Indra as the ancestor of Uchiha clan passed down fragments of his chakra onto his descendants [In the form of DNA], it’s that portion of chakra which awakens the sharingan :

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Note : Indras chakra is released when the descendants experience ‘loss of love’

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Note : Their eyes become stronger correlation to the darkness in their heart

The same feelings Indra encountered when he was forced to side along with his brother. A resentment towards his family and forcing himself to walk alone through the path he chose.

Sasuke faces the same obstacles as his predecessors :

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Note : Loss of family is a common attribute among the Indra reincarnations

When a person goes through the same experiences and start walking towards darkness, they will eventually become the embodiment of Indra himself.

- The chakra of Indra residing within them awakened the sharingan, when they experience the loss of love -

Resolve of Indra

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Determination of Indra will continue to pass on, even if Sasuke doesn’t manage to find a solution to the grudge between the brothers. Since the chakra can pass onto anyone with the same principles [Outside of the bloodline].

Kakashi showed the possibility to acquire sharingan, with the help of Obitos chakra :

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Note : Obito granted him only a fraction of his chakra

- The darkness will remain in the world, which cannot be eliminated -

Towards Peace

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Though there is a possibility for peace if the opposite forces co-operate together :

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In this case the opposite forces are Naruto and Sasuke :

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Note : Both of their co-operation is needed in order to find a balance

The same reason Hagoromo divided the remaining chakra and passed onto them :

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Note : Hagoromo admitting his mistake [That he should’ve paved a path for both forces working together]

Though Sasuke doesn’t believe in co-operation, he will eventually come to realize that love can be replenished which transforms his hatred into love [Creating a bond with Naruto as a brother] :

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Note : In return will create a domino effect on Indras soul

It will create equality among the brothers, which will remove the hatred Indra had towards his family.

- Though the darkness will still remain, it’ll be used as a force to identify the weakness of humanity with the help of Indras reincarnations -

! Conclusion !

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The transmigrants are chosen according to their ideals

Indra's chakra is the medium among the Uchiha Clan to awaken the sharingan, which can also transfer outside the bloodline

Indra's resentment towards his family will vanish, when Sasuke starts to co-operate with Naruto

Darkness cannot be eliminated but can be conquered by love in order to create balance in the world

“Accept your dark side, understanding it will help you to move with the light. Knowing both sides of our souls, helps us all to move forward in life and to understand that, perfection doesn't exist - Martin R. Lemieux”

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:. Thanks for reading & Open for comments .:
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nice theory but is till think the transmigrants are chosed by blood

 

[Hakairyoku]

That was a great read. Very interesting to think about!

 

[A Perfect Orgasm]

Good theory

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

Interesting read. ^^
+rep for the effort

Good stuff....and what makes Naruto special is that he has what it takes to change the heart--Sasuke's heart...that's what sets him apart from the previous Ashura reincarnations....that and the whole never give up thing....he will never get fed up and finally kill Sasuke like Hashirama did with Madara....that's what Sasuke is trying to run away from by killing Naruto.

Good thread. Rep x 10.

Great theory. Very possible indeed.

Great thread dude, it was a good read.



Nicely said.

Glad you guys liked it :O

Pst, by the time Naruto's done with TNJ Sasuke's hatred that has turned into love won't be brotherly love for Naruto, it'll be gay love.

Hope that doesn't happen

You pointed out some similarities on a Naruto and Ashura but Hashurama wasn't like them exactly, he had the same ideals but he was strong from the get go while Naruto and Ashura needed to work hard with help from other to become strong. They didn't become reincarnations because they shared the same ideals, it's more that they have those ideals because they are the reincarnation.

I also don't think they can be reincarnated in anyone who is not their bloodline since there's mo connection to them, Obito went inside Kakashi temporarily to give him power, he wasn't influencjng his personality nor do they have same ideals since they both have different personalities while Hashirama/Naruto and Madara/Sasuke have similar ones. Indra and Ashura get reborn in they're reincarnation but depending on their lives, they can have ended up differently like how Naruto calls himself stupid compare to Ashura. Naruto said he's not Ashura and Sasuke isn't Indra because they lived their lives and are who they are; the brothers were reborn with different lives so it fits in with what Naruto says.

I do like the thread and the amount of work you put into it but from how the manga shows it, this is what I get from it.

Hashirama still needed the help of his brothers in order to get stronger, to voice his opinions among his clan [Include the fact he was fighting from childhood, which enhanced his odds to become stronger than Madara]

The souls will never move on without completing their desires and it's one of the reasons they will transmigrate onto someone else even if they're not connected by bloodline

When you compare Kakashi and Obito, they still have a core value/ideal of protecting their comrades

Indeed they're not going to end up like their predecessors, since they will find a mutual ground [Which separates them from the rest] .​

 

[Itachi 4 life]

The last picture was the best thing in this thread tbh

 

[ShiroT]

I think your wrong about Indra migrating outside his bloodlind. It would defeat the uchiha and hatred theme. And the senju vs uchiha them .

But I agree with everything else

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

They have those characteristics because they're their transmigrants, they're not their transmigrants because they have those characteristics.. it's from birth.

 

[Sir Cool Blizzard]

Nice thread. I agree.

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

sasuke and naruto arent the sources of good and evil thats first.
second if you want to complete understand good and evil you have to complete ignore kishi logic. good and evil is up to an individual to aknowledge, just because naruto wins it wont trully change the lives of other people, because every person is simply different from one another. its not just black and white, there is many shades of gray in everything.

Compared them more like opposite forces, rather than Good and Evil .

Very nice and thought out theory. Good amount of information, + rep

Excellent theory, backed up appropriately. I don't have much to add, you explained it very thoroughly.
Well done

Thanks guys !!

Doubt it the way kishi is going with sasuke he's not cooperating with naruto even if it kills him talking don't work and if naruto beats sasuke, sasuke will pull a suicide kill maybe.

Or most likely naruto knows a technique to remove ashura and indra charka from in them.

In the end cooperation won't work with sasuke and naruto.

Removing the chakra of their predecessors will not bring balance to the world .

This is naruto. The story revolves around him, he chooses to follow light path no matter what, simple yet unique. Ashura and his descendants always sought peace with co-operation while Indra and his descendants had their own view of peace, a peace which is achieved through power like IT. Hatred and peace cannot exist together, one has to be abolished in order to gain another. People interpret Yin-Yang in wrong way all the time. Yin-Yang are not actually two separate entities, they are one in reality, which is called life. They can only be separated by force but they remain as one single entity until they are separated, ex: Indra and Ashura, one represents Yin and other Yang but they were one single entity prior to that which is hagoromo. Naruto realises that the combination of co-operation and power both is the way to create peace which is Yin-Yang, he knows by merging two seperated parts of peace an even greater peace can be found, that's why he's trying to drag sasuke back into good side. Imagine sasuke and naruto both standing in the same side, naruto's co-operative mentality which is backed by sasuke's power, resulting in ultimate peace. For this to happen, sasuke should accept that without co-operation, power will fail. Yin cannot win without Yang.

Delighted that you understood the relation between the contrary forces [yin-yang], that one cannot survive without the other .​

 

[The Masked Sage]

nice thread. Looks complete

 

[Stxluciferr]

Great job bro, will rep when I can

 

[Angelic.]

how does indra and ashura find similiar ideals in newborn babies?

i agree on the love part <3 <3

 

[NineSNS]

Excellent thread. Best compilation of facts focused on the transmigrants latching onto the values within the person.

I agree with the claim that the extinction of the Uchuha clan will not end the transmigration. All Indra needs is a person with superior ability and intellect who embraces the philosophy of "power cures all."

You've also detailed the only logical way for the transmigrants to be at peace; the clue was on the Uchiha tablet.

Last but not least, it would be the perfect ending to the story: both sides accepting the merit of each other and working together (Bff status preferred but not mandatory.). It reminded me of the final drawing in Sai's picture book.

Thanks for posting!

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

Seems plausible, although some things I disagree on, mostly cosmetic points though; although I do agree on your premise of there needing to be cooperation- between the two.

See this is logic

Nicely laid out and explained theory. Well done

Breath taking and really nice and enjoyable read.

The content of it was so great and let me find out some stuff I didn't know before

Thank you for posting this

Glad you guys enjoyed it !!

I love the thread....it does make a lot of sense

Only thing i wanna add is that transmigration is a relocation of the soul as the mind clearly dies along with the body and their ideals carry on through the soul...oh well it doesnt matter,great theory!

Thanks for clarifying the information bro ​

 

[Romy9]

I like the thread, but the initial thought and idea were already obvious to any reader who is mature enough to process it. I agree with love conquering darkness, but it's not just about that. No one succeeded in "subduing" Indra's transmigrant to Ashura's ways which means the bloodline and the ideal you spoke off are strongly present in any transmigrant. Now, the problem comes from Ashura's influence and Indra's susceptibility to that influence. Naruto will most likely be the only one who succeeds because he inherited the influence and the bond towards his brother more than any other trnasmigrant, more than even Ashura himself. This is why many believe Naruto won't subdue Sasuke with power but with his infamous TnJ. To put it in simple words, Naruto has the most persistence and will to go after his brother, unlike any other. Indra's spirit will simply be too weak for such fierce determination.

 

[uzumakinaruto389]

Interesting and very well compiled. But Hashirama? I think he was pretty strong from the start. Maybe its the other way round, ie if you're the reincarnation, then you have the same ideals.

 

[uchihamad]

Great theory man