Indra invented ninjutsu

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What is the difference between using Chakra to shoot lightning, and using Chakra to shoot lightning while calling it a Chidori?

I feel like kishi ran out of time to explain it.

It seems like Hagoromo and Hamura used exclusively Nature Energy (not sage mode) as the Juubi itself was Nature Energy. Then humans began using their own physical and spiritual chakra to create the same results as their Nature Energy attacks.

Idk. It makes no sense. There is no ninjutsu, but they didn't beat the Juubi with taijutsu, and Hagoromo wouldn't be mad about humans using chakra to fight when he did the exact same thing years earlier...

Stone Tablet couldnt be read by anyone but Sharingan-Rinnegan users. There was no writing system.

You realize there's a toad wearing an amulet with "oil" written on it, right?
 

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I feel like kishi ran out of time to explain it.

It seems like Hagoromo and Hamura used exclusively Nature Energy (not sage mode) as the Juubi itself was Nature Energy. Then humans began using their own physical and spiritual chakra to create the same results as their Nature Energy attacks.

Idk. It makes no sense. There is no ninjutsu, but they didn't beat the Juubi with taijutsu, and Hagoromo wouldn't be mad about humans using chakra to fight when he did the exact same thing years earlier...



You realize there's a toad wearing an amulet with "oil" written on it, right?
That's the Toad's dimension, not the Earth
 

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Filler created ninjutsu.

How magnificent
 

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The world foesnt need Indra to teach them Ninjutsu. They did that on their own for bloodlust and power.
 

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Ninshu IS NINJUTSU...
Ninjutsu = Ninshu used with violence

the difference is like using gunpowder for fireworks or using gunpowder for weapons to kill o_O
 

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No................................

Ninshu IS NINJUTSU...
Ninjutsu = Ninshu used with violence

the difference is like using gunpowder for fireworks or using gunpowder for weapons to kill o_O
except Hagoromo, Madara, and the DB all stated that there is a fundamental difference between the 2 :sdo:
 

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Just came to say
it's filler

It's easy to figure out what Hagoromo meant though I didn't watch the episode.

Taking chakra, using it to amplify one's spiritual energy, and then using chakra as a means to perform various skills is ninjutsu.

From what I can tell Hagoromo just viewed shooting lightning and whatnot as the utilization of chakra (not ninjutsu or ninshuu)

Ninshuu- a way of connecting

Ninjutsu-practice of more refined chakra control wherein chakra is used as a weapon/ means of fighting
 

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Actually the databook does credit Indra as the creator of ninjutsu.
 

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No................................

Ninshu IS NINJUTSU...
Ninjutsu = Ninshu used with violence

the difference is like using gunpowder for fireworks or using gunpowder for weapons to kill o_O
^kinda wrong. Ninshuu connects >_> your version sounds like connecting violently
That sounds more like Genjutsu.
 

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Indra invented ninjutsu according to the new episode's preview. So this guy invented shadow clone jutsu, not Tobirama. So Indra taught the world how to turn ninshuu into Ninjutsu. I guess that's probably why Hagoromo chose Ashura over him. He corrupt the teaching.

Hago used ninjutsu before Indra was born.
 

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There was no writing system in Indra's era.

There was no writing system? They sent messages to each other using scrolls in the first few filler episodes. If you're going to make a statement, at least make sure it is a correct one.
 
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Hard to take him seriously as a butthurt brother killer bc he's so cute lol

He wasn't suppose to be such a villainous character. I alost cried after seeing the beautiful bond between Ashura and Indra. But that damn Black Zetsu had to come and manipulate Indra and shit.
 

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It seems like Hagoromo and Hamura used exclusively Nature Energy (not sage mode) as the Juubi itself was Nature Energy. Then humans began using their own physical and spiritual chakra to create the same results as their Nature Energy attacks.

The Juubi was not Nature Energy. Nature Energy is the natural energy that flows throughout the earth, and has always been apart of the earth's being. When Shinju fell from the sky and began sucking the life out of it's surrounding landscape, it drew in and absorbed a lot of the lands Nature Energy, which is why the land began to die. When Kaguya was granted power from the Shinju tree (who was now infused with all of the Nature Energy it absorbed) it passed down Nature Energy to her, which converged with her chakra to create Senjutsu. Kaguya, having birthed two children, passed down this Nature Energy infused chakra to her children. Which explains why drawing in Nature Energy came so easy to them.
 

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He created ninjutsu but not shadow clone jutsu.
 

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Filler material isn't canon so...
 

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Wrong, they didn't live in the stone age and Hagoromo wrote the stone tablet so there was a writing system in their time. Filler episodes aren't canon and Indra's use of kage bunshin is not manga fact.

He never had kage bunshin because it never existed. The only jutsu you can be sure he used was Sharingan and element techniques. And wood clone can only be used by Mokuton which is from Ashura's power.
Why are you like that? Why can't yoy accept a naruto fact ? If indra created ninjutsu this means he created shadow clones stop ignoring facts and obvious things , fk what tobirama said ! As if he can know who created it 1000 years ago. Sheesh

Hagoromo does have sharingan and now Indra can do shadow clones , the boy can do susano but he can't do a clone? LOOOOOOL
 
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