In no way is this a bashing thread....hinata discussion

[Obito the supreme jin]

There is not a single pairing(other than MK and idk who else) that isn't complete trash because Kishit can't right romance to save anybody's life

It just shows further how Kishi never had romance in his life. He didn't have *** so he doesn't know how to write any of the relationships excluding MK and Asuma X Kurenai which he got right to an extent.

 

[6thHokage]

She forgot about her dead cousin in an instint....NARUTOS hand is so big this also shows that the females in Naruto only revolved around BOYS

Naruto-kun's big and warm made her forget about Neji's dead body(which was inches away).

 

[6thHokage]

Many of which were very impactful. It had development. This sure isn't a romance series, but it had development.

Not really.

 

[-Drāke-]

It just shows further how Kishi never had romance in his life. He didn't have *** so he doesn't know how to write any of the relationships excluding MK and Asuma X Kurenai which he got right to an extent.

But he has kids...

 

[Bling Kai]

There is not a single pairing(other than MK and idk who else) that isn't complete trash because Kishit can't right romance to save anybody's life

All the romance in the pairings are not believable invluding minatoxkushina that shit sounds like it was written by a 2nd grader.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

Forced onto him by his editors. It's been stated that's why Sakura and Sasuke even exist. Rival and love triangle. Blame his editors for forcing him to write stuff he's clearly said he's not comfortable with. They weren't wrong though,
unfathomably some people only read this series for the pairings.

Fk those editors.Some of the mangaka editors screw over these mangakas. That "love triangle " thing was stupid because for the most part Sasuke didn't love or like Sakura for a huge lump of the series. Hinata and Sakura didn't need to be with Naruto and Sasuke. It didn't help them in the development department. Sure Hinata was determine by Naruto but that was admiration. Like these bs "romance" didn't even seem mature or make Naruto seem mature. Kishimoto was saying the "love" would make Naruto more "mature" but it had no development. Love does not equal mature....

It just shows further how Kishi never had romance in his life. He didn't have *** so he doesn't know how to write any of the relationships excluding MK and Asuma X Kurenai which he got right to an extent.

lol well damn^

 

[Bling Kai]

Forced onto him by his editors. It's been stated that's why Sakura and Sasuke even exist. Rival and love triangle. Blame his editors for forcing him to write stuff he's clearly said he's not comfortable with. They weren't wrong though,
unfathomably some people only read this series for the pairings.

Yeah his editors encourage him to put shit into his manga. If I was kishi I wouldnt let someone tell me what to do with MY MANGA! But yeah at least the bad romance wasn't really difficult to ignore until the pairings became canon. Cause then it's like he really wants us to except this bs.

I honestly never paid much attention to them and they don't really bother me all that much but I try not to miss out on opportunities to expose how bad they are.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Not really.

No this series wasn't built for romance, just asspulls, asspulls, and more asspulls. Also to see the dream of Naruto Uzumaki becoming 7th Hokage.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

Forced onto him by his editors. It's been stated that's why Sakura and Sasuke even exist. Rival and love triangle. Blame his editors for forcing him to write stuff he's clearly said he's not comfortable with. They weren't wrong though,
unfathomably some people only read this series for the pairings.

It just shows further how Kishi never had romance in his life. He didn't have *** so he doesn't know how to write any of the relationships excluding MK and Asuma X Kurenai which he got right to an extent.

No this series wasn't built for romance, just asspulls, asspulls, and more asspulls. Also to see the dream of Naruto Uzumaki becoming 7th Hokage.

Which was sadly over taken with pairing bs. I hated how in ch. 700 it was wtf pairing stuff and a little bit of Naruto being hokage. It's like it turned into a horrible romantic shojo at the end than everyone had an orgy causing them to all have kids at the same time.

 

[superturtle]

Yeah his editors encourage him to put shit into his manga. If I was kishi I wouldnt let someone tell me what to do with MY MANGA! But yeah at least the bad romance wasn't really difficult to ignore until the pairings became canon. Cause then it's like he really wants us to except this bs.

I honestly never paid much attention to them and they don't really bother me all that much but I try not to miss out on opportunities to expose how bad they are.

Not how it works. Very few Mangaka have the authority to outright ignore editors, especially when you're just starting a series and they don't know how big of a draw you'll be yet. You can't just tell them no, especially when you're a nobody like Kishimoto was at the start.

 

[Narusaku619]

Not how it works. Very few Mangaka have the authority to outright ignore editors, especially when you're just starting a series and they don't know how big of a draw you'll be yet. You can't just tell them no, especially when you're a nobody like Kishimoto was at the start.

Still to follow the word of his editors that much and choosing pairings because they were the most popular....kinda makes KISHI look bad....it's as if he gave up towards the end and just wanted it done......I think KISHIS a good manga creator but after the events in Naruto I can NEVER consider him great like the DBZ CREATOR

but this is all personal opinion......

 

[superturtle]

Still to follow the word of his editors that much and choosing pairings because they were the most popular....kinda makes KISHI look bad....it's as if he gave up towards the end and just wanted it done......I think KISHIS a good manga creator but after the events in Naruto I can NEVER consider him great like the DBZ CREATOR

but this is all personal opinion......

Kishimoto looked bad way before the conclusion of the story. The Manga took a humongous nosedive in quality around the Kage summit arc. DBZ isn't remembered for its pairings. Once this retarded fascination with Naruto pairings dies.off it'll be remembered as a case of lost potential.

 

[-Drāke-]

Not how it works. Very few Mangaka have the authority to outright ignore editors, especially when you're just starting a series and they don't know how big of a draw you'll be yet. You can't just tell them no, especially when you're a nobody like Kishimoto was at the start.

the problem is that kishi did whatever his editors told him till the end
he had the authority to ignore them just like Oda does

Still to follow the word of his editors that much and choosing pairings because they were the most popular....kinda makes KISHI look bad....it's as if he gave up towards the end and just wanted it done......I think KISHIS a good manga creator but after the events in Naruto I can NEVER consider him great like the DBZ CREATOR

but this is all personal opinion......

tbh it's not just about pairings
it's about the plot, character development, and ass pulls

 

[TheAncientJinchuuriki]

I recently had a huge talk with my Naruto friends.....and we have all came to the conclusion that hinata is an unimportant character......in the entire manga she only had 38 manga pages of interaction with Naruto......


If hinata had died at some point in shippuden I dought Naruto would be to upset......yes he would be sad but her death would of been nothing compared to SASUKE, sakura, KAKASHI, Jiraiya.....

her characters only use in e series is a attractive female that ATTRACTS YOUNG MALE attension....


I personally feel that instead of forcing a love story that was not all that entertaining MASAHI kishimoto should of developed her more.......

1. Deal with her family issues
2. Have her grow and change the hyuga
3. Have other goals other than NARUTO KUN

I'm not saying she's a horrible character but she could of been developed more.....

A lot of fans mostly naruhina fans and hinata fans are gonna bash me....but what needs to be said is that Naruto in a 699 chapter manga is NOT THE SAME AS THE ONE IN THE LAST

I would of accepted hinata but the fact that she barley had any actual FULL conversations with Naruto in shippuden pisses me off.....and the amount of forcing in the last felt great....I'm not the only Naruto fan that feels this

Do you think hinata would of been a better character if her goals weren't only NARUTO??

She was a side character in 1st series, shippuden, and gaiden.......ITS PRETTY CRAZY THAT KISHIMOTO AT THE END OF E SERIES CALLS HER THE MAIN HAROINE...


YOUR THOUGHTS ON HER DEVELOPMENT........AND WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE ABOUT HER?

Typical NS fans always claiming that NH only had 35 pages

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If Hinata had died at some point in shippuden, I thought Naruto would be upset....yes he would be sad but her death would have been nothing compared to Sasuke, Sakura, Kakashi, Jiraiya....

Naruto wouldn't be upset if Hinata died? He let the kyuubi take over him when he thought Pain had killed Hinata

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[superturtle]

the problem is that kishi did whatever his editors told him till the end
he had the authority to ignore them just like Oda does


tbh it's not just about pairings
it's about the plot, character development, and ass pulls

Unlike Oda, Kishimoto REALLY needs an editor, or we end up with dumb shit like a dog being Hokage. Not hard to correlate his first editor leaving with the collective decline of the series as a whole.

 

[-Drāke-]

Unlike Oda, Kishimoto REALLY needs an editor, or we end up with dumb shit like a dog being Hokage. Not hard to correlate his first editor leaving with the collective decline of the series as a whole.

See that's the problem
He's a shit writer on his own, but the story is shit even with editors(except for the first one like you said)

 

[Narusaku619]

I think it can be said that If any of NARUTOS comrades went down in NARUTOS eyes like hinata he would of gone ninetales.........this also has nothing to do with narusaku......I understand naruhina is cannon I just wish kishimoto could of developed her more than he did

It's as if her only purpose in the series was Naruto.......similar to sakura....

Like I say All the time the majority of girls in Naruto revolve around men....

Typical NS fans always claiming that NH only had 35 pages

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Naruto wouldn't be upset if Hinata died? He let the kyuubi take over him when he thought Pain had killed Hinata

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[Tantalus Thief]

There is not a single pairing(other than MK and idk who else) that isn't complete trash because Kishit can't write romance to save anybody's life

ShikaTema is decent imo.

 

[Atari]

Typical NS fans always claiming that NH only had 35 pages

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Naruto wouldn't be upset if Hinata died? He let the kyuubi take over him when he thought Pain had killed Hinata

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This.

 

[NineSNS]

It amazes me that people claim Hinata's training was motivated by anything other than her desire to be acknowledged by or be worthy of Naruto.