In-Depth Analysis: How Alive Minato beats Mobile Nagato!!

[Minator93]

Judging by the fact that you countered nothing in my last post I'm just gonna assume you can't.

Well it's hard to counter BS.

1. Jiraya couldn't sense he because Jiraya isn't a sensor, SM sensing is an ability of perfect SM users which Jiraya isn't.

2. SM Naruto sensed him during his battle, KCM Naruto was too busy in talking to fight properly. Its all there in the manga U_U

3. Nagato couldn't sense where Naruto or Kurama is whilst Minato sensed where Naruto was from counties away, not only that he could also sense that he and Kurama were fighting together or Kurama ogt extracted U_U Making Minato a superior sensor than Nagato

4. You lack SM understanding, too lazy to link my thread about it.

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As you can see every fuqing thing of your shitty post got countered. Cba to entertain much longer U_U

 

[VongolaX]

Don't understand this, CT was pulling up trees and destroying mountains. In the edo fight, it did the same thing while Nagato was in it's vicinity


Common sense would dictate that the physical condition of Nagato would show he was not in good health. Common sense would also dictate that between his battle with SM and then his battle with Itachi, Bee and Naruto when he was edo, would show that he was in good health. Proof of this? He was coughing blood (as you said) when he used CT during the pain arc. When he used it whilst being in Edo, he did not cough blood

Turned of the other paths? Naruto destroyed them, what are you talking about?
And still waiting for the scan saying ST shortens your life span

Common sense would come to a realization that he was coughing blood from over-use of chakra he did not have.

He already shortened his life span, using ct of that caliber is just asking for a fountain of blood.

Obviously you fail to acknowledge that Nagato's frail appearance came from the permanent mark of the mis-use of Gedo mazo (against Hanzo's men).

When Nagato use the big st to destroy the village he turned off all the other paths.

Naruto wasn't even there when he used it..

Do you fail at reading and literacy?

Even a Nagato worshiper as yourself should know this. :|

 

[mohdzarif]

Maybe it's hard for people to agree for someone on Nagato's level can potentially be defeated by Minato. Here is how it is...

In terms of real strength, it's undeniable that Nagato is far ahead of Minato (Rinnegan and Uzumaki traits). But Minato's Hiraishin (plus Kage Bunshins) and barrier are somethings that's usually hard to fight against.

If A is above B in terms of overall strength doesn't mean that B can't defeat A. A certain fire Pokemon that's stronger than a certain water Pokemon still can be defeated by the weaker water Pokemon.

But I don't agree that Minato is certainly guaranteed to win either. You can't underestimate Nagato.

OT: Oh one more thing, Nagato also got Gedo Mazo and soul dragon, you forget that OP.

 

[Minator93]

Maybe it's hard for people to agree for someone on Nagato's level can potentially be defeated by Minato. Here is how it is...

In terms of real strength, it's undeniable that Nagato is far ahead of Minato (Rinnegan and Uzumaki traits). But Minato's Hiraishin and barrier are somethings that's usually hard to fight against.

If A is above B in terms of overall strength doesn't mean that B can't defeat A. A certain fire Pokemon that's stronger than a certain water Pokemon still can be defeated by the weaker water Pokemon.

But I don't agree that Minato is certainly guaranteed to win either. You can't underestimate Nagato.

OT: Oh one more thing, Nagato also got Gedo Mazo and soul dragon, you forget that OP.

Gedo Mazo can be trapped in a barrier. Hanzo escaped Soul Dragon pretty easily, Minao would do with more ease. However it'll cripple Nagato which leads to his death [Minato reappearing with Hiraishin later].

Also Nagato didn't show Tobi level feats with gedo mazo, soul dragon is self destruction. That's why I didn't bother with it. I mean you didn't see Nagato use it against Naruto or as an Edo.

 

[xbreedsx]

The strongest Nagato path was having trouble with a half kyuubi, that was only at 8 tails....

 

[mohdzarif]

The strongest Nagato path was having trouble with a half kyuubi, that was only at 8 tails....

Nagato is stronger than 6POP. And 6POP strength was also reduced when they get far away from Nagato's real body. Deva path needed to be very close to Nagato before he could use that massive Chibaku Tensei on Naruto.

 

[King Of Pop]

Nagato takes it mid dif imo. A simple st blows away minatos kunais and minato himself will get caught in the process if he gets too close. With shared paths and sensing I doubt minato will be able to trick nagato, his summons take care of the toads easily or nagato one shots with st as he did in the manga. Preta takes care of any incoming rasengan and kunai won't cut it as I don't tink he wil be able to get close to nagato without the latter reacting as he has sensing to keep watch. Nagato has Chibaku tensei which can change the terrain and kill minato except the latter teleports away but wit his kunais disrupted it wil pose difficulties. Essentially a cst or ct ends minato.

 

[ComplexCity]

Common sense would come to a realization that he was coughing blood from over-use of chakra he did not have.

He already shortened his life span, using ct of that caliber is just asking for a fountain of blood.

Obviously you fail to acknowledge that Nagato's frail appearance came from the permanent mark of the mis-use of Gedo mazo (against Hanzo's men).

When Nagato use the big st to destroy the village he turned off all the other paths.

Naruto wasn't even there when he used it..

Do you fail at reading and literacy?

Even a Nagato worshiper as yourself should know this. :|

I love all the assumptions you keep making

Manga scans proving your validity or it never happen

 

[xbreedsx]

Nagato is stronger than 6POP. And 6POP strength was also reduced when they get far away from Nagato's real body. Deva path needed to be very close to Nagato before he can use that massive Chibaku Tensei on Naruto.

That's your speculation. Regardless, manga fact. Nagato needed to use almost ALL of his chakra to pull one massive Chibaku Tensei that would've been destroy by a half kyuubi that was only in 8 tails. Even if he is immobilized, it does not mean his chakra capacity is cut in half. If he was mobile, he would still have the same chakra capacity, that means he can not pull one massive chibaku tensei without showing fatigue. That's why Chibaku Tensei is rather void in this fight, as Minato is a S/T user. He can teleport away. Using this technique would only give Minato a chance to kill him due to fatigue.

 

[mohdzarif]

That's your speculation. Regardless, manga fact. Nagato needed to use almost ALL of his chakra to pull one massive Chibaku Tensei that would've been destroy by a half kyuubi that was only in 8 tails. Even if he is immobilized, it does not mean his chakra capacity is cut in half. If he was mobile, he would still have the same chakra capacity, that means he can not pull one massive chibaku tensei without showing fatigue. That's why Chibaku Tensei is rather void in this fight, as Minato is a S/T user. He can teleport away. Using this technique would only give Minato a chance to kill him due to fatigue.

Not just a speculation. Nagato would have just used Chibaku Tensei without resorting to take Deva path closer to him. He even said that to Konan that he had brought Deva path close enough before he used CT.

For the fatigue, mind you, he had been killing villagers and destroying the village before that. After that, massive Shinra Tensei. And then, fighting with Naruto and frogs. And do you forget that he revived back the villagers at the end.

He had an extremely massive chakra pool, Minato's chakra pool is uncomparable.

 

[Europa]

Had you agreed, I'd have needed to rethink the entire matter, but now I know I'm right Lol

Ye ye. Yer mum m8.

 

[xbreedsx]

Not just a speculation. Nagato would have just used Chibaku Tensei without resorting to take Deva path closer to him. He even said that to Konan that he had brought Deva path close enough before he used CT.

For the fatigue, mind you, he had been killing villagers and destroying the village before that. After that, massive Shinra Tensei. And then, fighting with Naruto and frogs. And do you forget that he revived back the villagers at the end.

He had an extremely massive chakra pool, Minato's chakra pool is uncomparable.

I know he has a massive chakra pool (Uzamaki and a Rinnegan User), but Chibaku Tensei is void against a fight with a S/T user. Many people here only stated Chibaku tensei as a winning arsenal for Nagato, when they should be thinking out of the box. Shina Tensei is fine too, but that's a gravitational jutsu that can be render void against S/T users.

I know Nagato can win, just like Minato can win. But the counters for the OT is not logical.

 

[VongolaX]

I love all the assumptions you keep making

Manga scans proving your validity or it never happen

It just doesn't get more ironic than this pathetic post right here Lol

@ minator93 can you do me a favor and post the scan of konan stating that using st shortens his lifespan please.

Someone needs to teach this raging-rustled primate the values of reading.


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[slimreaper]

nagato schools minato.


Minato can teleport from any attack is what you're saying

thats why madara and obito shat on him, and he was couldn't react to black zetsu obito. fail argument

 

[xxxLegacy]

nagato schools minato.


Minato can teleport from any attack is what you're saying

thats why madara and obito shat on him, and he was couldn't react to black zetsu obito. fail argument

Actually only you have a fail argument , minatos was fast enough to use rasengan after he has sealing 50% Kurama Chakra with 1 Hand ....you are just *******
And wow what for a big deal that only a Juubi Jinju can hit Minato ......tzzz

 

[slimreaper]

Actually only you have a fail argument , minatos was fast enough to use rasengan after he has sealing 50% Kurama Chakra with 1 Hand ....you are just *******
And wow what for a big deal that only a Juubi Jinju can hit Minato ......tzzz

that juubi jin was pushed back by 7th gate guy.


fail

How does making a rasengan equal reaction time? he didn't even have time to strike with it.

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the arument that he can teleport from any attack is stupid as the manga has already proved he can't. stay butthurt

 

[ComplexCity]

It just doesn't get more ironic than this pathetic post right here Lol

@ minator93 can you do me a favor and post the scan of konan stating that using st shortens his lifespan please.

Someone needs to teach this raging-rustled primate the values of reading.


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Don't understand your dumb logic, weren't you the one that said Nagato turned off his paths when he destroyed Kohona? Aren't you the one making these claims for your argument? If you come into a debate, you're suppose to back up your claim with proof or do you not know how to debate?

 

[Brooks]

In failure-wise....you're a God tier Minator93...

I could explain how Nagato buttrapes Minato but that would be a waste of an argument on someone who is as ignorant as you.​

 

[RikudoKami]

Sensor, Deva, Human.

 

[RikudoKami]

Manga fact my ass.

SM Naruto beat Nagato, is the real manga fact U_U

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Since you said sm naruto won.