In-Depth Analysis: How Alive Minato beats Mobile Nagato!!

[Europa]

I agree.

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lol no

 

[Retsu]

1. Minato won't run out of chakra U_U



2. Nagato won't be able to sneak up on Minato because Minato is a sensor, plus if he's in SM then it's far easier for him U_U

Naruto or Jiraiya could NOT sense him, the former had emotion sensing and Jiraiya was in SM, you clearly underestimate Nagato. Not to mention he ran out of chakra in his fight against obito, I'm more than positive Nagato can make him run out of chakra as well. And Nagato is also a sensor, better than Minato I might add.

 

[Minator93]

I agree.

Spoiler

lol no

Had you agreed, I'd have needed to rethink the entire matter, but now I know I'm right Lol

 

[Valhorus]

These are very good arguments .

 

[Blaze of glory]

As much as I like minato, I don't think he could beat Nagato. That rinnegan is too much to handle

 

[Penguin]

I have two things to say about this. When Tobirama hyped Minato's "striking speed", you need to understand the situation better. He was saying

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. Quick to act makes more sense than striking speed. Plus his sensory prowess is not on Tobirama's level. Just saying.

And the Hiraishin mark is a fuuinjutsu, and fuuinjutsu cannot be absorbed by preta since it is not a ninjutsu.

I still think Nagato beats KCM Minato, SM Minato, Minato, and Tobirama, but the thread looks like it has a nice layout.

 

[Minator93]

Naruto or Jiraiya could NOT sense him, the former had emotion sensing and Jiraiya was in SM, you clearly underestimate Nagato. Not to mention he ran out of chakra in his fight against obito, I'm more than positive Nagato can make him run out of chakra as well. And Nagato is also a sensor, better than Minato I might add.

1. Jiraya even with SM isn't a sensor because he was an imperfect sage.

2. SM Naruto had zero problems against him because he could sense all of it and Nagato even after being such a great sensor failed against SM Naruto, he couldn't see Frog Kumite, he couldn't see the Natural energy U_U

3. Minato is a sensor of Tobirama's level [clearly above Nagato, I have manga backup] Adding Perfect SM to that makes it an overkill.

 

[mohdzarif]

Thanks.

About Minato's stamina, well we know for sure that Minato is a "Perfect Sage"



Clearly makes Mianto's chakra pool really big U_U

His chakra pool is not that much. Because he said he can't maintain SM for a long time. And what do u mean by "Perfect Sage"? He said that he isn't good at senjutsu.

 

[Penguin]

His chakra pool is not that much. Because he said he can't maintain SM for a long time. And what do u mean by "Perfect Sage"? He said that he isn't good at senjutsu.

Minato has a fairly large chakra pool. It is below Hashirama and Tobirama, but above Tsunade and Hiruzen's. He doesn't have stamina issues. I mean, he teleported a Juubidama.

 

[Minator93]

As much as I like minato, I don't think he could beat Nagato. That rinnegan is too much to handle

Rinnegan is too much, if it's wielded by Madara that is U_U

An expert with a pebble can still beat a novice with a shuriken

These are very good arguments .

Thanks

I have two things to say about this. When Tobirama hyped Minato's "striking speed", you need to understand the situation better. He was saying

You must be registered for see links

. Quick to act makes more sense than striking speed. Plus his sensory prowess is not on Tobirama's level. Just saying.

And the Hiraishin mark is a fuuinjutsu, and fuuinjutsu cannot be absorbed by preta since it is not a ninjutsu.

I still think Nagato beats KCM Minato, SM Minato, Minato, and Tobirama, but the thread looks like it has a nice layout.

1. I provided the Viz scan U_U

2. Ofc

3. Then you clearly underestimate the worth of Hiraishin or you fail to grasp the workings of Hiraishin and it's variants in conjunction with Shadow Clones U_U

 

[ComplexCity]

1. Jiraya even with SM isn't a sensor because he was an imperfect sage.

2. SM Naruto had zero problems against him because he could sense all of it and Nagato even after being such a great sensor failed against SM Naruto, he couldn't see Frog Kumite, he couldn't see the Natural energy U_U

3. Minato is a sensor of Tobirama's level [clearly above Nagato, I have manga backup] Adding Perfect SM to that makes it an overkill.

Lol what a fanboy, saying SM had no problem against Nagato

 

[Retsu]

1. Jiraya even with SM isn't a sensor because he was an imperfect sage.

2. SM Naruto had zero problems against him because he could sense all of it and Nagato even after being such a great sensor failed against SM Naruto, he couldn't see Frog Kumite, he couldn't see the Natural energy U_U

3. Minato is a sensor of Tobirama's level [clearly above Nagato, I have manga backup] Adding Perfect SM to that makes it an overkill.

Naruto couldn't sense his emotions in KCM, and the two sage toads ARE perfect sages, yet they had to let ma's tongue sniff pein out. and please show me something to convince me Minato is a better sensor than nagato. and he can only use sm in 1 second spurts, deva path dealt with a perfect sage Naruto, Nagato surely can deal with Minato's 1 second SM.

 

[Minator93]

His chakra pool is not that much. Because he said he can't maintain SM for a long time. And what do u mean by "Perfect Sage"? He said that he isn't good at senjutsu.

1. Minato's chakra pool is really large, much than even Tobirama! Because he is a perfect Sage.

What Naruto or Hashirama have achieved is known as "Perfect Semnin Transformation" which Jiraya couldn't. Minato has the perfect Sennin transformation making him a perfect Sage, better than Jiraya.

2. Minato said he's not good @ maintaining it, add Ma and Pa in his shoulder and he surpasses even Naruto in SM U_U

 

[Penguin]

Rinnegan is too much, if it's wielded by Madara that is U_U





Thanks



1. I provided the Viz scan U_U

2. Ofc

3. Then you clearly underestimate the worth of Hiraishin or you fail to grasp the workings of Hiraishin and it's variants in conjunction with Shadow Clones U_U

Even the viz can be wrong, or the words can be taken to literal. Use the context of the manga. He was quick to act by putting the marks down. It isn't that hard to understand.

That is your opinion. o-o

 

[Memento Mori]

Naruto or Jiraiya could NOT sense him, the former had emotion sensing and Jiraiya was in SM, you clearly underestimate Nagato. Not to mention he ran out of chakra in his fight against obito, I'm more than positive Nagato can make him run out of chakra as well. And Nagato is also a sensor, better than Minato I might add.

@bold - Before the fight against obito,minato used a lot more of his chakra to prevent ninetails from breaking the seal,I bet you saw that episode,how much chakra do you think is needed is for preventing kurama from breaking seal,when kushina is damn too weak at that time of delivery

@underline - Better than minato??I don't think so.....who knows??

OT - Good thread minator93

 

[Memento Mori]

Naruto or Jiraiya could NOT sense him, the former had emotion sensing and Jiraiya was in SM, you clearly underestimate Nagato. Not to mention he ran out of chakra in his fight against obito, I'm more than positive Nagato can make him run out of chakra as well. And Nagato is also a sensor, better than Minato I might add.

@bold - Before the fight against obito,minato used a lot more of his chakra to prevent ninetails from breaking the seal,I bet you saw that episode,how much chakra do you think is needed is for preventing kurama from breaking seal,when kushina is damn too weak at that time of delivery

@underline - Better than minato??I don't think so.....who knows??

OT - Good thread minator93

 

[Minator93]

Naruto couldn't sense his emotions in KCM, and the two sage toads ARE perfect sages, yet they had to let ma's tongue sniff pein out. and please show me something to convince me Minato is a better sensor than nagato. and he can only use sm in 1 second spurts, deva path dealt with a perfect sage Naruto, Nagato surely can deal with Minato's 1 second SM.

You seem to have a notion that Nagato beats Minato no matter what, well I've posted everything there is to post in this thread, I cba to explain more.

Even the viz can be wrong, or the words can be taken to literal. Use the context of the manga. He was quick to act by putting the marks down. It isn't that hard to understand.

That is your opinion. o-o

As opposed to yours U_U

 

[Minator93]

@bold - Before the fight against obito,minato used a lot more of his chakra to prevent ninetails from breaking the seal,I bet you saw that episode,how much chakra do you think is needed is for preventing kurama from breaking seal,when kushina is damn too weak at that time of delivery

@underline - Better than minato??I don't think so.....who knows??

OT - Good thread minator93

Thanks dude

 

[Retsu]

Judging by the fact that you countered nothing in my last post I'm just gonna assume you can't.

 

[xbreedsx]

No such thing as a mobile, Nagato. So don't even give him such feat. He was immobilized before he was in his prime.

EDO features of No Fatigue means nothing. By that logic, Minato can teleport ANYTHING that Nagato throw at him (Reference JUUBIDAMA)

CT to trap a user that can teleport? Really? What Nagato going to do with a rock? Throw it at Minato, just so he can teleport it back at him? >.<

This fight can be two sided. Nagato can win or Minato can win. Depends on who smarter.

I'm pretty sure, Kishi would make Minato win, regardless. Nagato was in his prime during Minato time, why didn't he attack him there, if he hate Konoha so much.