In-Depth Analysis: How Alive Minato beats Mobile Nagato!!

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I've seen tons and tons of threads in which people who do not understand the full extent of Minato's power say that he gets beaten by Nagato but it's false on all accounts.

Before we go any further, this is Alive Minato with possible SM, heck Imma only use Alive Minato to prove my point and Nagato is Mobile Nagato with no paths U_U Also for the sake of Argument both shinobis have full intel on each other, otherwise Nagato gets Shunshin killed Neg Diff U_U

I'm going to list Nagato's abilities and how Minato counters each and every single one of them.

List of Nagato's Abilites that he uses in battle:

1. Sensor
2. Summons
3. Shinra Tensei [it has 5 second interval]
4. Bansho Tennin
5. Chinaku Tensei
6. Soul Removal
7. Preta Abilities
8. Mechanical Bastard
9. Rinnegan's Shared Vision

What Minato needs to counter and Kill Nagato without much effort:

1. Shadow Clones
2. Hiraishin no Jutsu
3. Hiraishin no Jutsu level 2
4. Hiraishin Goshun Mawashi
5. Hiraishin Kunais
6. Jikukan Keekei [Hiraishin Barrier]
7. Minato's Rasengan
8. The Contract Seal
9. Sensor Abilities [not even needed tbh]
10. Summons




Now before I start, I'll educate the one's who don't know how FTG works:



It's Minato that decides who or what to teleport even if some is grabbing him or the one's he wants to teleport. In other words nothing can confine Minato, nothing at all U_U




Nagato's Rinnegan Summons:
First Way:

Minato soloes them with extreme low diff. How? Well it's too easy for him. Shunshin to the said Summon or send a Shadow Clone with Shunshin to that summon and teleport away using the Hiraishin no Jutsu.

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Second Way:

Kuchiyose Boss toads and have them fight the summons, if he wants to save the chakra, he could have a Shadow Clone enter into Sage Mode some place safe and then use the Hiraishin no jutsu to get where Minato is and then Summon all boss toads and Sage Toads.

Third Way:

The contract seal U_U

#Inb4 Nagato's invisible Summon: Minato is a sensor of Tobirama's level U_U


Nagato's Shinra Tensei:
Even if Nagato uses Shinra Tensei against Minato from inches Minato gets out of it no damage no diff, how? Hiraishin no Jutsu

Minato, shat on Enton+FRS combo neg diff even after getting hit, how? Well before the damage could start to happen he was out of it thanks to Goshun Mawashi, here only Hiraishin is needed

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Also once an ST is used, all Minato needs to do is throw a Kunai and use Hiraishin Level 2 to kill Nagato U_U

Nagato's Bansho Tennin:

First Way:

If Nagato uses Bansho Tennin against Minato, he gets killed in next 3 seconds, how? Well the Hiraishin Goshin Mawashi. All Minato needs to do is to switch himself with one of his clones [well that is if Nagato is able to differentiate clones from Original Lol], Goshun Mawashi is instant, even when or how it happened U_U

After the clone get's BT'd i.e. touches Nagato, attaches the Hiraishin marking and then Nagato gets killed the next instant by Kunai to throat or Rasengan to head etc

Second and more efficient way:

Whilst Minato is getting pulled, all he needs to do is to throw his Kunai, we know Minato's throwing speed is perhaps the greatest even [ ]. Nagato gets U_U

Nagato's Chinaku Tensei:
I'll leave a thread which is extensively dedicated to show how base/alive Minato beats Nagato's Chibaku Tensei without much difficulty



End of Days has written an even simpler way than mine!

Nagato's Soul Removal:

For soul removal to work Nagato needs to touch Minato physically, which if ever happens means Nagato's death in next 3 seconds U_U

For the arguments sake, lets put Minato in the same situation as [even though that'll never happen given Minato's legendary skill]. Now let's make it even harder for him and say he doesn't have any shadow clones around. Now what will Minato do?

Well he'll do exactly what he did to own , he'll swing a Kuani in slow speed, teleport to another Kunai he has on the field, before Nagato could even realize what happened use to Kill Nagato U_U

#Inb4 Minato can't throw Kunai:

Naruto blasted Rasengan's at Nagato, Minato throws Kunai neg diff U_U




As you can see, all of the abilities Minato used so far are something that the Preta Path can't absorb Lol [Rasengan was used as a final blow but a Kunai to throat works in all those cases as well U_U]




Nagato's Preta Path:

It absorbs Ninjutsu, the only Ninjutsu which is absorbable from Minato is the Rasengan which I'm pretty sure will never get absorbed because of it being used as a killer blow to which Nagato can't react. I mean Obito who with his phasing ability that got the better of it [when it was used in conjunction with the Hiraishin Level 2]

#Inb4 Preta absorbs Hiraishin marking:

As Minato said that , it stayed on Obito even after 17 years! Now some say that the making gets absorbed by Preta, well no. Why?

1. Obito had the Rinnegan and he couldn't remove that marking. So preta doesn't work.

2. Juubito had the Rinnegan and the Onmyoudon which erases Ninjutsu, well Juubito with either U_U

Nagato's Mechanical Bastard and Shared Vision:

Hiraishin + Shunshin + Rasengan U_U

Mechanical bastard isn't gonna touch Minato with his speed and Hiraishin, it'll get murked if hit by Minato's Rasengan. And if Nagato uses Mechanical bastard with Preta, well Hiraishin escape and whilst escaping do the trick he did against Ei i.e. swing a Kunai and come back with U_U




Each and every thing from Nagato's arsenal gets shat on by Hiraishin and it's variants to which Nagato has absolutely no counter. People only think that Nagato ST's the FTG Kunai and it's done Lol but the reality is far from it. They forget that Minato keeps many Kuanis with himself [on himself]. Also Nagato has zero Long Range attacks that could work on Minato, to harm Minato in any way he needs to close in and that's where Minato beats him at his own game because Minato is the greatest close combat shinobi bar [Juubi Jins, 8th gate Gai and Rikudou Naruto] on par with Rinnegan Obito!!




Hope you guys enjoyed :flowers




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# Inb4: Nagato shits on Minato neg diff:

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Think real hard about what Deva said in here, its the Viz scan U_U
 
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this fight could go either way tbh.... it would be a great fight though.

i dont agree about the part where u said with no knowledge minato would win....

nontheless geat analysis^^
 
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Seriously? You underestimate Rinnegan. The Rinnegan defends against Ninjutsu and Taijutsu; and its shared field of vision (Rinnegan Kuchiyose), along with sensory, could tracks Minato's speed.
 

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But I agree that alive minato can beat Nagato.

He uses ftg

He can jump, fly, and teleport using ftg.

Using Shadow clone as a medium to mark your opponent spells GG for most people.

He can send you in the bottom of the ocean if he wanted to...

He even sent the juubi's ttb in the bottom of the sea (It took the combine efforts of the shinobi alliance just to stop it, and still failed in the end).
 
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Seriously? You underestimate Rinnegan. The Rinnegan defends against Ninjutsu and Taijutsu; and its shared field of vision, along with sensory, could tracks Minato's speed.
Obito with Kamui, Phasing, full info, Speed on par with BM Naruto could win against Minato's speed and Hiraishin, Nagato can't even compete U_U

Ei who shunshin'd MS Sasuke's ass [MS Sasuke >> Nagato in terms of speed] confessed that there was no one faster than Minato. U_U

Nagato's Rinnegan can't keep up with Minato just like Juubi Jin Madara with all the power in the wprld couldn't keep up with Gai's 8th gate speed U_U
 

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No ones going to listen

But I agree that alive minato can beat Nagato.

He uses ftg

He can jump, fly, and teleport using ftg.

Using Shadow clone as a medium to mark your opponent spells GG for most people.

He can send you in the bottom of the ocean if he wanted to...

He even sent the juubi's ttb in the bottom of the sea (It took the combine efforts of the shinobi alliance just to stop it, and still failed in the end).
Indeed.

Even though Nagato is more powerful,Minato have his chances against him.
Actully Minato's skill is so great that Nagato has no ways against Minato!

As I said before:

Minato has no solid defence. He gets 1 shotted by shinra tensei which he cannot hope to evade.
Lel all the defense in the world got shat on when Juubi fired it's Juubi Dama, it was Minato who's defense saved all the alliance.

But I expect this from Dantee Lol
 
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Obito with Kamui, Phasing, full info, Speed on par with BM Naruto could win against Minato's speed and Hiraishin, Nagato can't even compete U_U

Ei who shunshin'd MS Sasuke's ass [MS Sasuke >> Nagato in terms of speed] confessed that there was no one faster than Minato. U_U

Nagato's Rinnegan can't keep up with Minato just like Juubi Jin Madara with all the power in the wprld couldn't keep up with Gai's 8th gate speed U_U
You really are blind. You are not looking at the bigger picture. u_u
 

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Minato has no solid defence. He gets 1 shotted by shinra tensei which he cannot hope to evade.
How can shrina tensei one shot minato, if Kakashi took like 5 of them and still survive? :|

Shrina tensei is like Amatersu, it hasn't killed anybody in the series.

Even the big shrina tensei, Tsunade protected every remaining survivor with her summoning.
 
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How can shrina tensei one shot minato, if Kakashi took like 5 of them and still survive? :|

Shrina tensei is like Amatersu, it hasn't killed anybody in the series.

Even the big shrina tensei, Tsunade protected every remaining survivor with her summoning.
He was holding back. Pein easily one shotted bijuu sized frogs with a shinra tensei. Nagato alive and no paths is also on a different level in terms of strength stated by Naruto.
 

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How can shrina tensei one shot minato, if Kakashi took like 5 of them and still survive? :|

Shrina tensei is like Amatersu, it hasn't killed anybody in the series.

Even the big shrina tensei, Tsunade protected every remaining survivor with her summoning.
Exactly.

I agree. Minato could shit on Nagato, but it would still be a great fight to watch. Nagato isn't just going to sit down and let this happen to him. U_U
Thanks bro, and yea Nagato's powers are taken into consideration!
 
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