In a way, Naruto's handicapped for this fight

[shelke]

lol when i saw him do that i laughed so hard because i remember the tards last week who spouted so much bullshit about how naruto would only fight sasuke in base or sm only. so many retards on this forum

It's funny, because Naruto pulled out his cloaked form - fueled by Sage's chakra - against a regular chidori and Katon attack. Now we get a tub of shit called 'Naruto got nerfed threads'. Lol

 

[lucario14]

It's funny, because Naruto pulled out his cloaked form - fueled by Sage's chakra - against a regular chidori and Katon attack. Now we get a tub of shit called 'Naruto got nerfed threads'. Lol

I know right? As justin Timberlake once said: "What goes around comes back around".

 

[shelke]

I know right? As justin Timberlake once said: "What goes around comes back around".

The chapter made me laugh, as I knew what was coming.

 

[jiraiya nindo]

Do you think naruto's bdrs is superior to rikudo sage mode avatar bijuudama? In bsm mode, naruto's strongest attack was the bsm bijuudama. It makes sense that his strongest attack now is rbsm bijuudama. He can possibly add wind release to his avatar's bijuudama though. Also tsb are not that strong you see how naruto kicked madara's away in base form?

Tsb should be able to nullify everything. Only reason naruto was able to kick it is because he has rikudou senjutsu also. But it should eradicate any other person. This is why madara used it to finish off gai. The tsb is narutos strongest attack. No one can touch that attack and no jutsu can match it unless composed of rikudou senjutsu.

 

[Vapid]

Naruto's most detrimental weakness is his intelligence; his retardation stops him from doing what needs to be done.

 

[TrollKing]

Naruto's most detrimental weakness is his intelligence; his retardation stops him from doing what needs to be done.

That's one of the reasons put him below sasky kun

 

[lucario14]

Tsb should be able to nullify everything. Only reason naruto was able to kick it is because he has rikudou senjutsu also. But it should eradicate any other person. This is why madara used it to finish off gai. The tsb is narutos strongest attack. No one can touch that attack and no jutsu can match it unless composed of rikudou senjutsu.

I recall sasuke being able to touch the chakra receivers on tobirama's back. He has rikudo's chakra that's why therefore of course his susanoo was able to blow back naruto's tsb

 

[TrollKing]

I recall sasuke being able to touch the chakra receivers on tobirama's back. He has rikudo's chakra that's why therefore of course his susanoo was able to blow back naruto's tsb

like a paintball

 

[dewooder123]

The Guddoudama would not have mattered AT ALL. Sasuke already negated 3 of them with little to no effort, 3 more would not be a problem.

 

[Legacy69]

When he was making his Bijuu Bomb The Truth seeking balls were back on his back

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[ShiroT]

Both are handicapped. Sasuke didn't use any Rinnegan jutsu besides the teleportation.

we dont even know if he has them/can use them

 

[Ultimateone]

first off to the OP, naruto got those TSB back that he shot at sasuke's arrows. we can see them when he is making the bijuudama.

the bijuu dama rasenshuriken he makes with the tsb are stronger than the one he is currently using against sasuke, that should be obvious. while it may be possible that when they change the TSB into explosives they have aproximately the same power as are regularly formed bijuu dama, when naruto adds the wind nature on top of it to make the shuriken, thats adding another layer of power onto an already powerful tech. also, consider that one of those explosions from the from the bijuu dama rasenshuriken dwarfs the explosion that just took place should mean something.

i can agree that naruto is being nerfed by the fact that he has his tsb taken away from his essentially. they are basically one of the most powerful jutsu in the entire manga. also, jinton is not stronger than tsb. when sasuke blocked obito's tsb from hitting naruto, it still made a giant hole in it, much bigger than what the attack actually touched by the way. by comparison, onoki had to use a huge ass jinton to do something against susano. also, the fact that it uses all nature transformations inside of it does make it stronger than jinton. to say otherwise means you don't know what you are talking about.

for the people that say that sasuke is also being nerfed obviously don't know what nerfed means. sasuke in the kaguya and the madara fight could do none of what he has shown sense they ended. he didn't use chidori with his susano, or chibaku tensie, which he did literally right after the kaguya fight. just because he has yet to use other techs, does not mean he is being nerfed, it just means the fight literally just started. by comparison, naruto's tsb are gone, except three. he is also hampered by the fact that he doesn't even actually want this fight.

 

[lucario14]

the bijuu dama rasenshuriken he makes with the tsb are stronger than the one he is currently using against sasuke, that should be obvious.

How is a naruto's bijuudama rasenshuriken more powerful than his rikudo chakra enhanced bijuu avatar bijuudama? What was naruto's strongest attack in bsm? Was it a rasenshuriken variant? No it was the bsm avatar bijuudama.

while it may be possible that when they change the TSB into explosives they have aproximately the same power as are regularly formed bijuu dama, when naruto adds the wind nature on top of it to make the shuriken, thats adding another layer of power onto an already powerful tech. also, consider that one of those explosions from the from the bijuu dama rasenshuriken dwarfs the explosion that just took place should mean something.

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destroyed 1 (maybe 2) meteor(s) and sasuke's susanoo sword strike cut through 1 (or 2) as well. Yet we saw in the latest chapter that naruto's bijuu avatar blocked the susanoo sword strike with it's tails. Sasuke's chidori is not an attack with large area of effect yet it matched naruto's rikudo bijuu mode avatar's bijuudama and created a massive explosion. I'm not sure what else I can say to convey how much stronger that bijuudama is than the bijuudama rasenshuriken he used to clear out madara's meteors. It might be the fact that the bijuudama came from the avatar, like how chidori from susanoo is stronger than sasuke's chidori from his own hand. Logic right?

i can agree that naruto is being nerfed by the fact that he has his tsb taken away from his essentially. they are basically one of the most powerful jutsu in the entire manga.

Yea

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also, jinton is not stronger than tsb. when sasuke blocked obito's tsb from hitting naruto, it still made a giant hole in it, much bigger than what the attack actually touched by the way. by comparison, onoki had to use a huge ass jinton to do something against susano. also, the fact that it uses all nature transformations inside of it does make it stronger than jinton. to say otherwise means you don't know what you are talking about.

Not sure about this myself

for the people that say that sasuke is also being nerfed obviously don't know what nerfed means. sasuke in the kaguya and the madara fight could do none of what he has shown sense they ended. he didn't use chidori with his susano, or chibaku tensie, which he did literally right after the kaguya fight. just because he has yet to use other techs, does not mean he is being nerfed, it just means the fight literally just started. by comparison, naruto's tsb are gone, except three. he is also hampered by the fact that he doesn't even actually want this fight.

I agree. Sasuke wasn't nerfed he was still getting use to the powers of his eye. The more sasuke uses his powers, the more stronger he becomes. When he first used ms, he could barely use amaterasu and kagutsuchi well against B. When he fought danzo, he was more masterful, seeing as how he fought the kages prior to that battle. Also What would more tsb do for naruto? did you see how easily sasuke blew back the tsb with his V3 susanoo arrows?

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[Dantee]

lol Naruto can't even properly use the orbs. Sasuke was able to protect Naruto with a stage 1 susanoo with Juubito orb strike who can use it better than him. Naruto went Rikudo mode from a basic katon and still got blitzed in his strongest form.

 

[Ultimateone]

How is a naruto's bijuudama rasenshuriken more powerful than his rikudo chakra enhanced bijuu avatar bijuudama? What was naruto's strongest attack in bsm? Was it a rasenshuriken variant? No it was the bsm avatar bijuudama.Recall that

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destroyed 1 (maybe 2) meteor(s) and sasuke's susanoo sword strike cut through 1 (or 2) as well. Yet we saw in the latest chapter that naruto's bijuu avatar blocked the susanoo sword strike with it's tails. Sasuke's chidori is not an attack with large area of effect yet it matched naruto's rikudo bijuu mode avatar's bijuudama and created a massive explosion. I'm not sure what else I can say to convey how much stronger that bijuudama is than the bijuudama rasenshuriken he used to clear out madara's meteors. It might be the fact that the bijuudama came from the avatar, like how chidori from susanoo is stronger than sasuke's chidori from his own hand. Logic right?

Yea

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Not sure about this myself

I agree. Sasuke wasn't nerfed he was still getting use to the powers of his eye. The more sasuke uses his powers, the more stronger he becomes. When he first used ms, he could barely use amaterasu and kagutsuchi well against B. When he fought danzo, he was more masterful, seeing as how he fought the kages prior to that battle. Also What would more tsb do for naruto? did you see how easily sasuke blew back the tsb with his V3 susanoo arrows?

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what you are failing to realize is, you only get TSB after you get the senjutsu of the six paths. also the the fact is he transforms the tsb into a bijuu dama then adds another nature transformation on top of that. by comparison, the one he just used is just a bijuu dama. just because he uses the kurama avatar to make it does not mean it's more powerful. also take into account that those meteors were massive, a piece of one of them dwarfed mountain ranges. naruto's bijuu dama rashenshuriken explosion dwarfed the size of two of them. the bijuu dama he just did cannot compare to that. i don't know how else to say it to you. to say that this one is stronger because it's rikudou enhanced is inaccurate as all of naruto's attacks are rikudou enhanced.

naruto has the senjutsu of the six paths and was more powerful than madara at that state. therefore he was easily able to kick back madara's tsb because of his senjutsu.

also, it wasn't that sasuke blew back naruto's tsb, naruto was merely blocking sasuke's attack, which he did with ease.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Sasuke already could negate TSB effects due to his sage's chakra, no surprise he wiped them.

Sasuke is handicapped too, he keeps 9 meteors levitating and 9 bijus under genjutsu instead of using them to fight naruto.

 

[Ultimateone]

Sasuke already could negate TSB effects due to his sage's chakra, no surprise he wiped them.

Sasuke is handicapped too, he keeps 9 meteors levitating and 9 bijus under genjutsu instead of using them to fight naruto.

why would he use tailed beast against naruto. all naruto would have to do is absorb the bijuu and thus become even more powerful. he would literally get wiped easily if that happened. thus for his sake he had better leave them where they are. so not a nerf or handicap in the slightest

 

[AlphaScythian]

why would he use tailed beast against naruto. all naruto would have to do is absorb the bijuu and thus become even more powerful. he would literally get wiped easily if that happened. thus for his sake he had better leave them where they are. so not a nerf or handicap in the slightest

Naruto cant just absorb them w/o their will and sasuke controls them also gluck absorbing TBBs

 

[lucario14]

what you are failing to realize is, you only get TSB after you get the senjutsu of the six paths. also the the fact is he transforms the tsb into a bijuu dama then adds another nature transformation on top of that. by comparison, the one he just used is just a bijuu dama. just because he uses the kurama avatar to make it does not mean it's more powerful.

Yes it does. what is more powerful, Kirin or susanoo chidori? Kirin is clearly more powerful than chidori but the fact that the chidori came from susanoo is the reason it's so powerful. Likewise naruto's BM bijuudama just matched bijuudama from

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. It is clearly stronger than kurama's bijuudama by itself. The avatar makes the move more powerful Lol.

also take into account that those meteors were massive, a piece of one of them dwarfed mountain ranges. naruto's bijuu dama rashenshuriken explosion dwarfed the size of two of them. the bijuu dama he just did cannot compare to that. i don't know how else to say it to you. to say that this one is stronger because it's rikudou enhanced is inaccurate as all of naruto's attacks are rikudou enhanced.

The avatar enhanced it, that's why it's stronger like I said above.

naruto has the senjutsu of the six paths and was more powerful than madara at that state. therefore he was easily able to kick back madara's tsb because of his senjutsu.

Sasuke too has the chakra of the sage (spiritual chakra, hence the rinnegan) so it doesn't matter if naruto has 3 or 6, sasuke will repel them just like he did against naruto in the recent chapter.

also, it wasn't that sasuke blew back naruto's tsb, naruto was merely blocking sasuke's attack, which he did with ease.

The point I was making was that if the tsb are strong, how were they matched with v3 susanoo arrows? It's because sasuke has rikudo's chakra too therefore tsb are a non-factor for him, like how madara's tsb were a non-factor for naruto.

 

[Ultimateone]

Naruto cant just absorb them w/o their will and sasuke controls them also gluck absorbing TBBs

actually he can because he has their chakra in himself already, thus making it easier to seal them within himself. also, he can just break them out of the genjutsu if he needs to do that first.

Yes it does. what is more powerful, Kirin or susanoo chidori? Kirin is clearly more powerful than chidori but the fact that the chidori came from susanoo is the reason it's so powerful. Likewise naruto's BM bijuudama just matched bijuudama from

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. It is clearly stronger than kurama's bijuudama by itself. The avatar makes the move more powerful Lol.The avatar enhanced it, that's why it's stronger like I said above.

Sasuke too has the chakra of the sage (spiritual chakra, hence the rinnegan) so it doesn't matter if naruto has 3 or 6, sasuke will repel them just like he did against naruto in the recent chapter.

The point I was making was that if the tsb are strong, how were they matched with v3 susanoo arrows? It's because sasuke has rikudo's chakra too therefore tsb are a non-factor for him, like how madara's tsb were a non-factor for naruto.

kirin and chidori are 2 different techniques. kirin power isn't even determined by sasuke, he just guides the lightning from the clouds. the chidori itself is more powerful because it has more chakra in it, so it's bigger. the same can't be said for the bijuu dama. we saw when naruto made those bijuu dama rasenshuriken that he threw them and they expanded to be just as large or bigger than sasuke's PS. the bijuu dama naruto just made wasn't even that big and the explosion from the collision with sasuke's chidori wasn't nearley as big as what the bijuu dama rasenshuriken was on it's on.

naruto only used the tsb in that situation to destroy sasuke's arrows. you make it seem like sasuke used them to counter naruto but that wasn't the case. naruto used the tsb to counter the arrows and then they came back to him. it wasn't a case of sasuke matching the tsb, it was a case of naruto easily dispatching the arrows. if naruto had all 9 of his tsb, it's doubtful sasuke would be able to counter all of them at one time.