You trying to strip away the obvious participation of all the biju?!!! You like it or not, naruto is cooperating with them or the other around in the fight. In a simpler words, they are teaming up. That's the point about "naruto". He's no solo king. Lol
Let me clarify what I'm talking about. My definition of nerfed isn't that they aren't using their powers to their fullest. That's plot. I'm saying Naruto's nerfed because out of his 9 truth-seeking orbs, he's lost 6 in the previous battles and only has 3 left to fight Sasuke with. While Sasuke's don't go away no matter what gets destroyed.(unless you count the sword, but I don't think that'd make much of a difference). In this state, it's not that Naruto isn't using his full abilities, he simply can't. I'm not whining that he didn't do thus and such .(well, sort of. I'm at a loss for words that he didn't pick up 3 more truth-seeking orbs where Madara's limbo clone was at) What I'm saying is that before this fight even began, Naruto only is capable of a fraction of what he could do before while Sasuke's in the best shape he's ever been yet.
The fact that Naruto had to tap into Sage avatar with orbs behind him to fend off a basic Katon attack shows that he isn't nerfed, you people have always underestimated Sasuke, who is severely holding back for this fight.
The fact that Naruto had to tap into Sage avatar with orbs behind him to fend off a basic Katon attack shows that he isn't nerfed, you people have always underestimated Sasuke, who is severely holding back for this fight.
and now, they might be gone since he collided them with Sasuke's arrows (bullcrap, since when would something of multiple chakra natures be only on par with something like a lower-level susanoo. Ohnoiki's particle style has less natures than Naruto's truth-seeking orbs, and it dominated susanoos. Sasuke doesn't have more powerful senjutsu, so how do you explain this? And why did Naruto not pick up the 3 truth-seeking orbs where Madara's limbo clone was? "Oh, I'm sure I'll just use 3 against Sasuke")
All of Sasuke's Susanoo levels got a massive buff, so why are you comparing them to Madara's? Truth Seeker Orbs having more natures means nothing when they have shown to be blocked by things like Ribcage Susanoo while Jinton plows through Complete Susanoo.
As for your thread, no Naruto isn't handicapped. Sure, he can't use TBBFRS...in his human form anyway. Its still possible in Kurama Mode, and not to mention he can make Bijuu Dama that dwarf TBBFRS in power with the Kurama Avatar, and since he kneads the chakra himself, he can add Wind to it just how he does with the Truth Seeker Orbs.
All of Sasuke's Susanoo levels got a massive buff, so why are you comparing them to Madara's? Truth Seeker Orbs having more natures means nothing when they have shown to be blocked by things like Ribcage Susanoo while Jinton plows through Complete Susanoo.
As for your thread, no Naruto isn't handicapped. Sure, he can't use TBBFRS...in his human form anyway. Its still possible in Kurama Mode, and not to mention he can make Bijuu Dama that dwarf TBBFRS in power with the Kurama Avatar, and since he kneads the chakra himself, he can add Wind to it just how he does with the Truth Seeker Orbs.
Here's why I made the comparison. Truth-seeking orbs have more natures than Particle style. Sasuke's susanoo is on a different level than others, however, due to Naruto's senjutsu, his truth-seeking orbs should be stronger than particle style by the same degree. Though I have to admit, in hindsight, I shouldn't have raged about the orbs since Naruto didn't expand them like Obito did or anything.(I suspect this is how they utilize the disintegration abilities to the fullest much like Ohnoiki's particle style surrounding and enemy, I can explain more in a separate thread dedicated to it if you want)
No, a TBB will never be stronger than TBBRS. Allow me to explain. You're making a big misconception. It's TBBRS, not TBBFRS. This is a mistake a mistake that the fanbase made in abbreviating the name. It's Tailed Beast Bomb Ransenshuriken. Wind has nothing to do with it.
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What a truth-seeking orb is is a fusion of at least 4 chakra natures, likely to be 5. More natures (kkg) can be added to it as seen with Kaguya. Naruto didn't take a tailed beast bomb and fuse it with FRS. No, he used a truth seeking orb, with all its chakra natures, and gave then the ultimate shape transformation(ransenshuriken). I know I called it an explosion, but that's not what it is. It's the truth-seeking orbs expanding and engulfing a target and disintegrating it from the inside much like Particle style. This is far more dangerous than any TBB.
By loosing truth-seeking orbs, Naruto lost his most powerful attack.
Here's why I made the comparison. Truth-seeking orbs have more natures than Particle style. Sasuke's susanoo is on a different level than others, however, due to Naruto's senjutsu, his truth-seeking orbs should be stronger than particle style by the same degree. Though I have to admit, in hindsight, I shouldn't have raged about the orbs since Naruto didn't expand them like Obito did or anything.(I suspect this is how they utilize the disintegration abilities to the fullest much like Ohnoiki's particle style surrounding and enemy, I can explain more in a separate thread dedicated to it if you want)
Nope. Obito's orbs were formed via Rikudo Senjutsu as well yet they still were blocked by Sasuke's Susanoo, so Jinton is just stronger. More elements doesn't equal more strength. Jinton and TSBs are similar, not exactly the same.
And you don't need to make a thread if you don't want to.
No, a TBB will never be stronger than TBBRS. Allow me to explain. You're making a big misconception. It's TBBRS, not TBBFRS. This is a mistake a mistake that the fanbase made in abbreviating the name. It's Tailed Beast Bomb Ransenshuriken. Wind has nothing to do with it.
Um, the Shuriken surrounding the orb is made of wind.
What a truth-seeking orb is is a fusion of at least 4 chakra natures, likely to be 5. More natures (kkg) can be added to it as seen with Kaguya. Naruto didn't take a tailed beast bomb and fuse it with FRS. No, he used a truth seeking orb, with all its chakra natures, and gave then the ultimate shape transformation(ransenshuriken). I know I called it an explosion, but that's not what it is. It's the truth-seeking orbs expanding and engulfing a target and disintegrating it from the inside much like Particle style. This is far more dangerous than any TBB.
Truth Seeking Orbs were stated to carry every single Nature Transformation. The only different between Naruto's and Kaguya's is that Kaguya's is larger.
I know that TBBFRS is a Bijuu Dama, a TSB, and Wind. That doesn't mean Bijuu Dama can't be stronger. Nothing begins to imply that TBBFRS is some kind of uber hax that always beats raw power, not when a Gudo Dama was blocked by Susanoo.
By loosing truth-seeking orbs, Naruto lost his most powerful attack.
Nope. Obito's orbs were formed via Rikudo Senjutsu as well yet they still were blocked by Sasuke's Susanoo, so Jinton is just stronger. More elements doesn't equal more strength. Jinton and TSBs are similar, not exactly the same.
And you don't need to make a thread if you don't want to.
Um, the Shuriken surrounding the orb is made of wind.
Truth Seeking Orbs were stated to carry every single Nature Transformation. The only different between Naruto's and Kaguya's is that Kaguya's is larger.
I know that TBBFRS is a Bijuu Dama, a TSB, and Wind. That doesn't mean Bijuu Dama can't be stronger. Nothing begins to imply that TBBFRS is some kind of uber hax that always beats raw power, not when a Gudo Dama was blocked by Susanoo.
Um, I'm making that thread. Although there might be some logic holes here and there since I'm on a 24 hour allergy medicine that's making me tired.
I don't know what to say except that the manga disagrees with you entirely. Should we ask a mod if we can make a public debate on truth-seeking orbs? And yes, I can back my points on this.
Um, I'm making that thread. Although there might be some logic holes here and there since I'm on a 24 hour allergy medicine that's making me tired.
I don't know what to say except that the manga disagrees with you entirely. Should we ask a mod if we can make a public debate on truth-seeking orbs? And yes, I can back my points on this.
Do you think naruto's bdrs is superior to rikudo sage mode avatar bijuudama? In bsm mode, naruto's strongest attack was the bsm bijuudama. It makes sense that his strongest attack now is rbsm bijuudama. He can possibly add wind release to his avatar's bijuudama though. Also tsb are not that strong you see how naruto kicked madara's away in base form?
Yeah, but if we announce it as a debate between us, we'll have an audience. In any case, I'm not doing it tonight since I'll be playing Black Ops 2 with a friend.
Yeah, but if we announce it as a debate between us, we'll have an audience. In any case, I'm not doing it tonight since I'll be playing Black Ops 2 with a friend.
So Sasuke matched Naruto's nuke attack with a regular chidori, and he's suddenly handicapped? Why do I remember that thread where people created a joke post with Sasuke-fans in denial and exhibiting it with the one-liner: Sasuke got nerfed?
yea, bt d point is that he used a Rinnengan jutsu, pricisely he own special rinnen ability, which is the teleportation......he doesnt need to use all the rinen-abilities......... he used the one best for dt moment, so.... i agree with fact it was indeed naruto whom was handicapped and nt both..
Naruto in his current avatar powered up by all the bijjus and half of hagoromos chakra should logically use attacks stronger than bddfrs so i dont see the handicap. as for the tsb, sasukes attack helped get rid of 3 so i dont see the rest being much of a factor.
So Sasuke matched Naruto's nuke attack with a regular chidori, and he's suddenly handicapped? Why do I remember that thread where people created a joke post with Sasuke-fans in denial and exhibiting it with the one-liner: Sasuke got nerfed?
The fact that Naruto had to tap into Sage avatar with orbs behind him to fend off a basic Katon attack shows that he isn't nerfed, you people have always underestimated Sasuke, who is severely holding back for this fight.
lol when i saw him do that i laughed so hard because i remember the tards last week who spouted so much bullshit about how naruto would only fight sasuke in base or sm only. so many retards on this forum
lol when i saw him do that i laughed so hard because i remember the tards last week who spouted so much bullshit about how naruto would only fight sasuke in base or sm only. so many retards on this forum
