[Important] Something that no one questioned

[Lightbringer]

Remember when Spiral Zetsu used the Shisuusenju......The Shisuusenju used all 5 Nature Types.

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The Shisuusenju was also only shown to be created by Hashirama when he used Sage Mode.

As far as we know, Hashirama didn't possess any other Nature affinity aside for Mokuton, so even he couldn't have Shisuusenju cast those jutsu.

• The only person to master all Nature Transformations on his own was Hiruzen.
  
• The Rinnegan also grants the User the ability to master all Nature Types
  
• The Bashosen(Sage tool) is capable of casting all Nature Types.

So this means that whoever Spiral Zetsu is, possibly possesses Sage Mode or a Curse Mark since that's a psuedo-SM of sorts.

Not only that, but was skilled enough to master all Nature Affinities or dare I say, possesses a rinnegan.



This makes Yamato being Spiral Zetsu unlikely since he didn't master all Nature Chakras, and for all we know, Spiral Zetsu can't grant it to him.

What are your thoughts on this?

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[Darkas]

Remember when Spiral Zetsu used the Shisuusenju......The Shisuusenju used all 5 Nature Types.

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The Shisuusenju was also only showed to be created by Hashirama when he used Sage Mode.

As far as we know, Hashirama didn't possess any other Nature affinity aside for Mokuton, so even he couldn't have Shisuusenju cast those jutsu.

• The only person to master all Nature Transformations on his own was Hiruzen.
  
• The Rinnegan also grants the User the ability to master all Nature Types
  
• The Bashosen(Sage tool) is capable of casting all Nature Types.

So this means that whoever Spiral Zetsu is, possibly possesses Sage Mode.

Not only that, but was skilled enough to master all Nature Affinities or dare I say, possesses a rinnegan.



What are your thoughts on that

Actually I was going to make a thread like this because I still don't know how the fk that Guruguru was able to use 5 Nature techniques.

 

[Stark]

Something nobody questioned? You just did.

OT: I have no idea who's under white dog turd Zetsu, can't be Yamato.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I always assumed it was Yamato amplified by Spiral.

 

[Erebus]

Those are some pretty tall assumption there bro

 

[Lightbringer]

I always assumed it was Yamato amplified by Spiral.

yeah but Yamato doesn't possess all Naturo Affinity, and I don't believe Spiral Zetsu would grant that either.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

yeah but Yamato doesn't possess all Naturo Affinity, and I don't believe Spiral Zetsu would grant that either.

Well there was this alleged Jump Festa reply by Kishi floating around the net last year that said these:

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[Darkas]

yeah but Yamato doesn't possess all Naturo Affinity, and I don't believe Spiral Zetsu would grant that either.

I am pretty sure you assume this from my post.

 

[The Great Second Hokage]

Interesting thought

 

[assface3]

It can't be Yamato; that would be lackluster, and it wouldn't make sense, imo.

Maybe this mysterious person will be revealed to be the final villain - the one behind it all.

Well there was this alleged Jump Festa reply by Kishi floating around the net last year that said these:

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O_O

 

[Rinianne]

I always assumed it was Yamato amplified by Spiral.

nice... avatar

 

[Lightbringer]

Well there was this alleged Jump Festa reply by Kishi floating around the net last year that said these:

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I don't know, it'd seem to far-fetched that Yamato was pretending all along. I doubt he'd let himself be captured by Kabuto like that if he was just pretending.

 

[-Drāke-]

Well there was this alleged Jump Festa reply by Kishi floating around the net last year that said these:

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wait, what does kishi mean look out for the new villain...

 

[Lightbringer]

I can't be Yamato; that would be lackluster, and it wouldn't make sense, imo.

Maybe this mysterious person will be revealed to be the final villain - the one behind it all.

Well I made another theory saying that Spiral Zetsu would fight Obito and retrieve the rinnegan for Madara.

It would make sense since Madara needs a way to unleash his full power, but too busy fighting Naruto.

It would also be a convenient way to reveal Spiral Zetsu's relationship with Obito since we don't know the full details on why Obito acted like a goof ball as Tobi.

 

[Young Vongola]

The ine inside Guruguru (yeah that's Spiral Zetsu's name) is Yamato. Aint nobody got time for a new villain.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I don't know, it'd seem to far-fetched that Yamato was pretending all along. I doubt he'd let himself be captured by Kabuto like that if he was just pretending.

Not pretending, but what if he's actually just a conscious vessel whose purpose is to be taken over by an entity when the time is right? maybe that's why he's the only one of Oro's experiments who survived.

 

[scorezor]

IT'S FREAKING 2ND MADARA LOL.

caps ftw , btw.

 

[Jcub]

Man, I just assumed that Shisuusenju (statue thing) had its own capabilities aside from the actual user. Good catch on this one.

 

[PureSkillz]

Spiral Zetsu alone doesn't have that much power, it has to be Yamato. The tech also is on a much smaller scale
since it's not using sage chakra if you didn't notice.

For the natures, I guess the tech is capable of using all natures? Either that or Hashi has all natures too.

 

[Lightbringer]

Not pretending, but what if he's actually just a conscious vessel whose purpose is to be taken over by an entity when the time is right? maybe that's why he's the only one of Oro's experiments who survived.

I doubt it. Obito didn't know it.

Orochimaru was the one who experimented on him and I doubt he met Madara.

If it wasn't for Kabuto, Yamato wouldn't have been trapped anyways.

Why didn't they just create Yamato to be possessed from the beginning. It wouldn't make sense for him to live his life freely and then having to capture him again.