[Discussion] Imagine if Jewelry Bonney had made WB younger..
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Vandenre1ch
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Bonney can only make people very young(toddler/babies) or very old. Nothing in between. If she could make anyone any age she wants, why did she never use her ability on her middle-aged and fat first mate and crew?
Btw, Prime WB would've still been defeated in Marienford.
Btw, Prime WB would've still been defeated in Marienford.
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But wheres the proof for this? Perhaps there's no reason to make her crew younger, since they're still fairly strong. And I don't remember what her first mate looks like...
I'm pretty sure she can alter age to any age she wants to.
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Maybe she has yet to master her devil fruit, and when she does then she'll be able to alter anyone age to whatever she desires?
Many people we've seen had limited abilities at first but later on with time and experience they can improve!
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Or maybe the only time we've seen her use her powers, kids/old people were what were needed? We've only seen her use her powers twice: On Marines and on herself. It makes sense that she used her powers to make the Marines old and toddlers because they were attempting to fight her, so making them an age where they couldn't fight was optimal. On herself, she made herself young enough to look like Zoro's younger sister.
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Old white
beard was man handling Anaku before he coughed up blood WHICH caused jozu to lose his arm AND marco to get thrashed AND white beards face to get blasted.
HAD WHITE BEARD NOT BEEN sick he would have taken Ace back.
Had white beard been young the marines wouldn't have taken ace in the first place.
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He has his crew dummy. Prime Roger + older Gold Pirates > WG
Thats
Prime Roger
Old Ray
Old Scopper
Older Buggy
Older Shanks
Older unnamed crew
Old Crocus the wonder doctor
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The World government would get raped.
Lol ? Kizaru was half-assing the war and neither Mihawk/Doflamingo/Kuzan were trying 100%. I doubt it, even though we know nothing about Roger's crew. I doubt him and his crew and take on the 3 admirals, warlords, Garp, Sengoku and the rest of the VA/fodders at the same time.
Btw, I assuming he meant only Roger, not including his crew. Even with his crew, I don't think he can win.
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Gol D. Roger would've lost. Prime WB would've lost. Shanks would've lost. People seem to forget that it was WB, his cew, 44 NW Captains with their crews and Luffy's team VS not even the full MARINE forces(not WG. some marines were shown at other bases) and the WB group suffered a CRUSHING defeat. No marine top tier or high tier were beaten.
Also, Old WB and Akainu stalemated each other. The only reason Akainu got hurt was because of a sneak attack for WB but he STILL beat Ivanko, Jinbei and fought all the WB Commanders together(including Marco and Croc) and didn't receive a scratch All that after taking 2 point blank gura punches and didn't lose consciousness. Don't know why people say Akainu was outclassed.
I'm assuming they keep saying he got outclassed because of what he did to Ace. lol
I agree, admirals/marines are underrated in comparison to the top tier pirates. I'm not sure why.
Is this a Fanboy version of what happened or what? + You say prime whitebeard would have lost? + you say Gol-D roger would have lost? And people talk about Zoro fans being bad. The Admiral wankers are the worst.
- Yes it was WB, his cew, 44 NW Captains with their crews and Luffy's team, but they all came to Marineford by their own accord to support whitebeard and had no plans whatsoever. That is the reason they came from the sea and wb coated his ship and brought it directly into the bay. So the first point of distinction between marines and pirates was a well organized and planned army taking on a bunch of erratic fighters.
- Second point - the WB pirates were storming a fortress that not even WB's quakes could crack. The marines deployed vegapunks Pacifista as a strategic Asset to pin the pirates.
- Third - although the Shichibukai seemed to be irratic, they were more damaging to the pirates than to the marines.
- Fourth - Half or nearly all of luffy's crew that came from the sky was uselessly following buggy, and others had their own agenda.
- Five - Marines used quite a bit of underhanded tricks in turning WB's own allies on himself.
- Six - The marines had an assortment of Battleships around the outer perimeter of the bay, alongwith the cannons mounted almost all over the place.
- Seven - Heavily out of his prime wb, was stabbed and was on medicin.
Less than the marines strength it was their strategic planning that helped them win. Don't underrrate the WB pirates.
Actually don't overrate the admirals, they did not do shit. Also a prime Whitebeard would mean the following positives.
- One - He would have been Haoshoku Haki beast. Meaning he would have been able to knock down all the marines at the right time like when luffy did.
- Second - He would have been faster and would have put more power behind his quakes. Also would have been able to use more number of quakes, than he did at marineford.
- Third - He would have entered the battlefray earlier than he did at marinford. Look at the vitality Luffy has at this age. A prime whitebeard would have been a killing machine.
- Fourth - None of his commanders would have been distracted by his poor health. They would have been able to fight with full attention. In which case, it may not have been so easy to get rid of Jozu or marco.
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Actually Zoro wankers are far worse. Anyways, you're still wrong. Prime WB would of still lost, the WG had 2 admirals/Garp/Sengoku/Warlords who weren't even trying at 100% during the war arc & still managed to defeat the WB pirates. Only Akainu was heavily injured but he never suffered any real perm. damage from what it seems. You're making the assumption that the admirals would just sit there and watch while all this happens. They can all three tag team on WB and bring him down & seeing how casually they stopped WB's quake with haki, I don't see why they can't do it with PWB. Garp/Sengoku/VA's and the warlords can handle the commanders and allies to prevent any intervention when the 3 admirals tag team WB.
Have you ever considered that plot was preventing the admirals from tag-teaming on WB during the war? Yes Akainu was careless, he was focused on killing Ace. So, what?
You fail to understand that Warlords were never going to try their 100%. They were just playing around and it did not matter to them if the WB succeeded in rescuing ace. So they would have remained as they are.
Also 3 admirals tag teaming WB now leaves the field wide open for Luffy to rescue Ace. Also its not like Marco and Jozu would have allowed the 3 admirals to tag team. Plus you fail to understand that there is a difference between a prime WB quakes and strength and speed and an Old whitebeard's strength and speed.
You people just fail to grasp the power when it is said that WB had the power to destroy the world (And none other than the trinity of Garp, Sengoku, and Tsuru said this). Do you understand how strong the quake needs to be to destroy the world?
P.S: Also plz understand the post carefully before you reply, I was just showing the negatives that WB had to face at marineford and the successs they had inspite of that. Now add the positives a WB in prime would have brought and things start changing. Its not about stacking 3 admirals to make them as high as WB, its not that simple.
I also implied that much of the Marines success was due to the carefull planing and technology developed by vegapunk and the admirals should not be credited much for that. Because the careul planning and technology meant the Admirals did not have to fight a lot of fodders, which saved their stamina. (If you head what Law said of stamina you will understand the difference it makes to fight a ton of fodder and then a top tier.)
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It's a hypothetical situation, both side are giving it their best.
Now you're bringing Ace? I thought it just a war scenario, leaving ace out of the equation. Well even if they brought Ace, it wouldn't make much of a difference either. Did you not read what I said? Garp/Sengoku/Warlords would deal with the commanders. That's more than enough.
That doesn't mean much. This isn't Naruto where a top tier and stomp over a bunch of other top tiers at the same time. The whole destroying the world feat. doesn't mean he can do it instantly or something. Nothing suggests that. Commanders/WB-allies will be occupied by Garp/Sengoku/VA/Warlords, the three admirals can take on PWB with not much trouble.
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There you go, that's why I refrain from debates!
If it is a Hypothetical situation, then why do marines get all these defenses, + the schibukai at 100% and shit?
Lets make it on a plain ground with no Pacifista and that marineford fortress. Both sides face each other and fight. The marines would have been Whooped with a prime WB to lead the WB pirates. Because this also lifts the restriction on WB to use his quakes as it wont damage ace anymore + no wall to stop those quakes either.
And I never said anything about ace fighting! WTF?
Bro you are being silly.
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