im pretty sure the next few mangas

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are guna be all about hiruzen showing his prime and all you will finally know hiruzens true stregnth.

since watching the anime manga season 1 and 2 it appears to me that hiruzen is the strongest of all the kages due to proficiency in using natural energy.

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hiruzen was a part of team tobirama meaning he trained under the second hokage but what iv noticed is that hiruzen has more in common with hashirama. when missions are assigned a new team leader is sometimes given so the leader may accomplish missions

similarities hashi/ hiruzen giant shuriken, dense chakra, strong chakra control, summonings, earth style, rds hokage scroll, three natural affinities

simlarities hiruzen/tobirama water style



so im guessing that while tobirama was doing missions the team was led by hashirama who was the person to teach hiruzen chakra control senjutsu, kenjutsu and ninjutsu

this doesnt mean anything without proof so i say lets look at the stats
tobirama has only water style hashi has water, earth and wood and hiruzen has water earth and fire.

being hokage hashirama would have been needed to stay in the village im guessing that capturing the tailed beast got pretty dangerous so hashi appointed tobirama kage so that he could capture the beast giving both team hashi and team tobirama all significant positions in the village.

where my proof once again we have team tobirama which is hiruzen surutobi, homura mitakado, kaharu utatine


then on the second hokage we find three new konoha nin danzo, kagami uchiha, and torifu akimichi most likely being taught by hahsirama since we know how well the uchiha due and we've seen danzo in action.


what makes you think hiruzen can use sejutsu

lets look at team hiruzen

jiraya frog summoning frog sage, tsunade uses senjutsu to collect natural energy and has a major summoning, oro snake summoning snake sage

the anime and manga both state hiruzen knows all jutsu within konoha

more evidence it is the fourth hokage who dictates that the eight gates technique used by guy, rds and the fury techinique used by the tshugumo clan are declared forbidden

with him knowing all jutsu within konoha its safe to say he can perform them.

all evidence points to hiruzen having senjutsu but not often using it but with oppenents like the third raikage and kazekage and now 3 world wars under his belt im almost certain hiruzen not only has sage mode but a giant arsenal of powerhouse jutsu
 
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Hiruzen is dead. D-E-A-D, dead. Get that through your heads. He was only revived for a few minutes and all he did was die.

Now he's no more. Let's keep it that way. :heh:
 
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I love the third hokage but I think you are overestimating him you stated you have proof but the links don't validate it the third had two nature earth and fire I have never seen him use water and the link don't state it. I know it was stated that he knows and can do all the jutsu of the hidden leaf but I am still not sold on that one. There are some clans in the hidden leaf that have hidden jutsu I don't think he can do like from shino's clan there is a ritual that is done when a new member born and I don't think he did that ritual, so still not sure he can do all the jutsu of the hidden leaf .
 
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