"I'll have Kakashi keep my kunai"

FloriGlori

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Well while it's true Minato only showed to teleport to the marking so far, nothing proves he cannot teleport people connected to the marking as well because we've never seen him actually try it before, so Kishimoto implementing the possibility at this stage wouldn't be incoherant at all. Your safety reasoning is also possible though, eventhough judging by the success of the operation it's hard to believe the kunai finally played no role in there
Nothing proves he cannot, yet nothing proves he can; those are just empty phrases. And as the ability wasn't even remotely hinted at any point, the burden of proof would be on you. In my opinion, that train left the station long ago, when Minato himself explained the requirements for remote teleportation, with the Hiraishin marks not being among them. If Kishimoto was to introduce that ability all of a sudden now, he most likely wouldn't do it as decently as you suppose.

The Kunai's expandability, however, is quite the opposite of hard to believe. Giving the Kunai to Kakashi was no part of Minato's set plan but rather an act of caution, in case Madara was to attack Kakashi. He came up with that idea before witnessing how far Gai could drive Madara into a corner on his own, not leaving him a chance to even think of attacking Kakashi.
 

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Didn't Tobirama teleported his marked kunai to his hand against Madara ? If so i don't see why Minato would not be able to do that.
 

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Nothing proves he cannot, yet nothing proves he can; those are just empty phrases. And as the ability wasn't even remotely hinted at any point, the burden of proof would be on you. In my opinion, that train left the station long ago, when Minato himself explained the requirements for remote teleportation, with the Hiraishin marks not being among them. If Kishimoto was to introduce that ability all of a sudden now, he most likely wouldn't do it as decently as you suppose.

The Kunai's expandability, however, is quite the opposite of hard to believe. Giving the Kunai to Kakashi was no part of Minato's set plan but rather an act of caution, in case Madara was to attack Kakashi. He came up with that idea before witnessing how far Gai could drive Madara into a corner on his own, not leaving him a chance to even think of attacking Kakashi.
I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just talking about possibilities, hence my questions. I never said Minato teleporting anything connected to his kunai was a sure fact, only a possibility

The definition of the hiraishin working add the fact anything connected to his chakra gets teleported, so if for example there was a little bit of his chakra on the kunai, he could teleport you to another marking, making the possibility of leaving a kunai to Kakashi in other to close the distance to Madara faster possible.

I'm not denying your point to be possible as well, but don't forget Minato actually told Gai to continue his attacks no matter what even before Madara's counter-attack [ ], which could mean saving Gai from Madara's counter-attack was actually not really part of the plan as well or maybe he read Madara there
 

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For crying out loud nothing suggests that Minato didin't teleported Kakashi just because he gave him Kunai as a safity precaution.I don't get why people are using that as an argument against Bogard.

OT:U already know my opinon.
 

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I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just talking about possibilities, hence my questions. I never said Minato teleporting anything connected to his kunai was a sure fact, only a possibility
Never said you were. You yourself, however, claimed that the impossibility could not be proven. I just mentioned that it's a possibility I have no reason to believe in.

The definition of the hiraishin working add the fact anything connected to his chakra gets teleported, so if for example there was a little bit of his chakra on the kunai, he could teleport you to another marking, making the possibility of leaving a kunai to Kakashi in other to close the distance to Madara faster possible.
That would be possible. But as before, I have no reason to believe that assumption, which of course would have been mentioned, as transfering Chakra to Kunai is something Minato hasn't demonstrated yet.

I'm not denying your point to be possible as well, but don't forget Minato actually told Gai to continue his attacks no matter what even before Madara's counter-attack [ ], which could mean saving Gai from Madara's counter-attack was actually not really part of the plan as well or maybe he read Madara there
Don't know how this is connected to the actual point, but seemingly it was, as that is the reason he gave his Kunai to Lee; in order to assist Gai. By handing out his Kunai, he could have protected both Kakashi and Gai; however, as Gai is the only one who was attacked in the first place, Minato only had to protect him.
 
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Never said you were. You yourself, however, claimed that the impossibility could not be proven. I just mentioned that it's a possibility I have no reason to believe in.
Ok it was a misunderstanding then i guess. I've no problem with your statement here

That would be possible. But as before, I have no reason to believe that assumption, which of course would have been mentioned, as transfering Chakra to Kunai is something Minato hasn't demonstrated yet.

Genin Sasuke could [ ]. Pretty sure it's not something outstanding


Don't know how this is connected to the actual point, but seemingly it was, as that is the reason he gave his Kunai to Lee; in order to assist Gai. By handing out his Kunai, he could have protected both Kakashi and Gai; however, as Gai is the only one who was attacked in the first place, Minato only had to protect him.
Maybe i guess
 

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Genin Sasuke could [ ]. Pretty sure it's not something outstanding
However, there is no way to tell how long the Chakra actually remained. In general, Chakra eventually vanishes from weapons after they leave their user's hands [ ]. Then again, such a strategy would've been enormously circuitous, as in that case, Minato could have directly given the Chakra to Kakashi himself; that also would've cleared up his intentions.
 

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Nice thread bro :)

The fact of Kakashi being there @ Gai's 8th gate speed alone confirms that he was indeed teleportaed by Minato!
 

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For What we Know That kunai is not used and im think this is some kind of Minato strategy.Kakashi realy Kamued Guy Behind Madara but this kunai is not the only one that was not used,one kunai that is behind madara right now "The one that was droped before Lee saved guy"
 
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As a protection from Ninjutsu Cancellation orbs and by extension, Madara's attacks. I am pretty sure Gaara took him to the location. Nothing suggests otherwise.

P.s: I am just curious - how many times do you re-read the chapters anyway?
 

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safety precaution is more plausible than anything else, but what if he gave the kunai to Kakashi to be teleported next to him and be kamui'd himself? if not, then what did Kakashi send into kamui?


BTW what happened to the first(and possible the only) senjutsu rasengan of Minato that Kakashi kamui'd?
Be careful Sakura! :snick:
 
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