[Discussion] If you're the Government.

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I always think how the Government make a decision. Especially making a wise decision.

If you're the Goverment and decided to spend over the Nation. Which one of these will you take up to the priority?

1) Education
The government leaders need to be a forward-looking person. Education determines the future of our children, our next generation. If expenditure isnt enough for school-building, school fees subsidies and Teachers manpower, our country is just nothing with a hopeless future.

2) Defense
A powerful defense will able to scare off those dictator punks from invading us. We needed a better technology and a larger army. If education is important, then our Defense is much more important than it.

3) Healthcare and Welfare

Every time we will discover a new disease. If your people aren't healthy in the first place. Everyone will be infected and eventually die from it. Hence, we need a better healthcare, a better medicine and a better hospitals. On top of that, the Goverment need to subsidies for the people in order for them to afford buying it.

4) Reduce the Tax rate

By reducing the tax, most of the people might able to afford the things they wanted to buy. However, the goverment might finds it hard to evolve the country since not enough money to spend.
 
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health care and welfare..naturally, the main aim of each and every government is to maximize welfare benefits..welfare includes..social securities..street lighting..education..training and retraining labour force..better sanitation(sewage and water facilities) better health facilities..
off topic: i take it ur an economics student..am i right??
 

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Education would be the correct/essential answer here. Why? Without education, there won't be a next generation negotiating, as having an action taking, in the other 3 choices. Education is an essential to life, unlike the other 3. Without a decent diploma, you won't get a decent pay, you'll just find yourself flipping burgers in McDonald, which is packet with people who rather wanted to do other things, rather then reading books, and passing the exams. Education should be the most important, from all of those 3 listed above.
You guys do know that why Obama, has been all up in Healthcare right? Hence most of the voting population are over 60, meaning old people are who really cares about who will be our next president. Of course, these old people's most concerns lie in Healthcare, so they will make their vote towards the candidate who will give their best in healthcare. Obama doesn't care about education, only to be voted in as which to be only focusing on healthcare, which is most unlikely to happen, for reasons.

My conclusion is, education should be the top priority of all times.
 

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health care and welfare..naturally, the main aim of each and every government is to maximize welfare benefits..welfare includes..social securities..street lighting..education..training and retraining labour force..better sanitation(sewage and water facilities) better health facilities..
off topic: i take it ur an economics student..am i right??
Sounds logical :rolleyes:

Nope, just someone that interested in politics. :x


Education would be the correct/essential answer here. Why? Without education, there won't be a next generation negotiating, as having an action taking, in the other 3 choices. Education is an essential to life, unlike the other 3. Without a decent diploma, you won't get a decent pay, you'll just find yourself flipping burgers in McDonald, which is packet with people who rather wanted to do other things, rather then reading books, and passing the exams. Education should be the most important, from all of those 3 listed above.
You guys do know that why Obama, has been all up in Healthcare right? Hence most of the voting population are over 60, meaning old people are who really cares about who will be our next president. Of course, these old people's most concerns lie in Healthcare, so they will make their vote towards the candidate who will give their best in healthcare. Obama doesn't care about education, only to be voted in as which to be only focusing on healthcare, which is most unlikely to happen, for reasons.

My conclusion is, education should be the top priority of all times.
Actually yes, even so .. defense only important when your country is really in a good shape or have some worth natural resources. No one would like to invade a country if its not well-developed.

Good point!

If you kids didnt like this discussion, then better not to comment :) Go play with your naruto toys.
 
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Awesome question mate ^_^
Well Education naturally. A country's success is based on long term planning and to ensure that better education is essential which in future would produce more greater leaders and civilization which more productive then the last. A country is its people, not the leaders. Illiterate people would mean loads of unnecessary mistakes while the more educated people you the better it gets.
Considering this on huge scale more intelligent people would mean the a more efficient society. Businesses would flourish with the increased competition which would provide the society with better products at lower rates, meaning the eventually the value of your currency increases. Simply investing on education would give the benefits of all other choices in a long term thought.
Gah typing about defenses is soo much work i might write later >_>
 
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Awesome question mate ^_^
Well Education naturally. A country's success is based on long term planning and to ensure that better education is essential which in future would produce more greater leaders and civilization which more productive then the last. A country is its people, not the leaders. Illiterate people would mean loads of unnecessary mistakes while the more educated people you the better it gets.
Considering this on huge scale more intelligent people would mean the a more efficient society. Businesses would flourish with the increased competition which would provide the society with better products at lower rates, meaning the eventually the value of your currency increases. Simply investing on education would give the benefits of all other choices in a long term thought.
Gah typing about defenses is soo much work i might write later >_>
Good points! Very true man. :D
 

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Agreed at education.....but what good is it if you can't protect the people?

I may sound bias as I'm in the military (though I only joined so i could go to school for free......go figure....xd......) but if you don't have defenses, it doesnt matter how smart or dumb you are...your dead and would be debating this topic in heaven, nirvana, limbo, hell whatever you choose.

Now I'm not saying you should be a straight militant country like Spartan, but I don't think we should be straight educational like the Greek either.

A Healthy balance of both. Smart people that know how to protect themselves in wars are the most feared people on the planet.

With that healthy balance, a country SHOULD be able to come to a conclusion as to how the healthcare and welfare should be to benefit the country, as well as reduce the tax rate, upon which your people will indeed be happy and agree with instead of this the rich get richer crap that we have now.

My total vote.....if you can't have all of them, then you can't have any of them. U_U
 

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Agreed at education.....but what good is it if you can't protect the people?

I may sound bias as I'm in the military (though I only joined so i could go to school for free......go figure....xd......) but if you don't have defenses, it doesnt matter how smart or dumb you are...your dead and would be debating this topic in heaven, nirvana, limbo, hell whatever you choose.

Now I'm not saying you should be a straight militant country like Spartan, but I don't think we should be straight educational like the Greek either.

A Healthy balance of both. Smart people that know how to protect themselves in wars are the most feared people on the planet.

With that healthy balance, a country SHOULD be able to come to a conclusion as to how the healthcare and welfare should be to benefit the country, as well as reduce the tax rate, upon which your people will indeed be happy and agree with instead of this the rich get richer crap that we have now.

My total vote.....if you can't have all of them, then you can't have any of them. U_U
Sounds very logical. But you got to realize you cant choose all. You are not some kind like a money maker, every goverment will always wanted to give best for the nation, these includes the education, defense, even public transports, housing.

However, you have to put something as priority. Because of what you said, I guess it has some logical points about putting Defense as priority. Or else we might ended up like Kuwait,Palestine or other countries that involved in WWII.
 

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I would go with Education. Education can help you with pretty much any problem. How? For example, if the Military wishes to be efficient you have to have capable leaders to run it, no? Your soldiers need to be educated in order to follow directions and plan the appropriate strategy. IMO, everything we do or know somehow involves education. One can not simply attain knowledge by just performing it. You need to be educated to learn the mechanics of basic function.

Every form of government requires the specified education to obtain the knowledge on how it functions. You can not simply walk up to the Senate (assuming you would make it far to be elected) and know how it works. You have to be educated in a variety of fields in order to understand its mechanics.

Maybe I am not making much sense but Education is the foundation of all humanity.
 

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I'll go with health care and social welfare...

simply because if you are successful in this level... the other three will follow...

i guess no need to explain it that much...

(ei XENTINEL?petro... is that T.O.P.?)
 

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Sounds very logical. But you got to realize you cant choose all. You are not some kind like a money maker, every goverment will always wanted to give best for the nation, these includes the education, defense, even public transports, housing.

However, you have to put something as priority. Because of what you said, I guess it has some logical points about putting Defense as priority. Or else we might ended up like Kuwait,Palestine or other countries that involved in WWII.
1. Defense - As the people are what is most important, the first priority should be to protect them.

2. Education - With that protection, you want to make sure that they have the tools they need to succed in life.

3. Welfare and Heathcare - part of this provided by the Defense of the nation as a whole, takes educated people to come up with a plan to support the elderly and future elderly when they lack the means to support themselves after having defending the nation and teaching the new generation....also known as the future.

4. Reduce the Taxes. There will always be two certainties in life. Death and Taxes. Higher taxes means that the country is in dire straights, and are trying to overcompensate for a loss somewhere else. The trick to reducing it isnt borrowing more money from other people, but actually GIVING the people more money. Stimulus packages are a good idea, the problem is that the money they give is too little.

Whats the population of America as of 2011? 311.8 Million. If you were to give 1 million dollars to every household......not PERSON, but HOUSEHOLD, what do you think would be the first things people would do and in what order?

1. Debt - Pay it off. When you have no debt , it increases your credit and you can actually buy MORE because of it.

2. Necessities - Property (House, land), Food, college tuition for you and or kids.

3a. Wants - Expensive Cars, Jewelry, Boats, Gadgets (Computers, phones etc)

3b. Jobs - Entrepreneurs would pop out the woodworks, increasing job opennings and further helping the economy. When there is more people working, you can even out taxes across the board, making it easier for people to actually afford to buy other things that they want or need, for there will ALWAYS be Wants and Needs. And you know that goes hand in hand with Supply and Demand. That money will go back into the nation in less than a year. I GUARANTEE IT!!!

Thus bringing back the economy and lowering taxes for quite awhile.
 

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1. Defense - As the people are what is most important, the first priority should be to protect them.

2. Education - With that protection, you want to make sure that they have the tools they need to succed in life.
And from what minds does this defence come from? Obviously, you'd need educated people to invent defense right? It doesn't come out of nowhere, or does it.
 

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Education. It's the root and base of everything. And without it we wouldn't even have goverment to decide those kind of things. So we should cherish it to the maximum.
 
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Well for those who think Defense should take priority. Those are hollow words spoken without much thought into the matter.
Take a deeper look on what do we need defense against. Certainly people are foolish but man kinds history has taught us some valuable lessons. It is foolish to think any country could simply declare war on another without proper reasoning. The United Nations exists solely to avoid this, this world can't afford another World War. People need Defense against Crime and terrorism. And both of them breeds from uneducated minds. Do you think educated people would resort to crime or terrorism? As far as terrorism from other countries goes, those who do such stuff are destroying their very civilization. What is important over here is to stop them multiplying. Again which will be achieved by educating people not massacring a mass of population you think are affiliated to a terrorist group ~_~
Sure we need to protect the people. But we can't sacrifice a peaceful future for a safe present.
 

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And from what minds does this defence come from? Obviously, you'd need educated people to invent defense right? It doesn't come out of nowhere, or does it.
Education. It's the root and base of everything. And without it we wouldn't even have goverment to decide those kind of things. So we should cherish it to the maximum.
Well for those who think Defense should take priority. Those are hollow words spoken without much thought into the matter.
Take a deeper look on what do we need defense against. Certainly people are foolish but man kinds history has taught us some valuable lessons. It is foolish to think any country could simply declare war on another without proper reasoning. The United Nations exists solely to avoid this, this world can't afford another World War. People need Defense against Crime and terrorism. And both of them breeds from uneducated minds. Do you think educated people would resort to crime or terrorism? As far as terrorism from other countries goes, those who do such stuff are destroying their very civilization. What is important over here is to stop them multiplying. Again which will be achieved by educating people not massacring a mass of population you think are affiliated to a terrorist group ~_~
Sure we need to protect the people. But we can't sacrifice a peaceful future for a safe present.
NO animal is simply born smart, but every animal has a natural instinct to protect itself and it's family. It is the same with a country.

History has taught us that protecting yours comes first, for if you don't, there will be no one to teach in the first place.

I think of it like this. The Militia of old, all lined up in formation to shoot the powder and lead ball using weapons. The reason they did this is because they didnt know how to aim. While the militia were out fighting to protect their people, the people were in school learning, growning, and inventing newer ways to live and protect ourselves, to lessen the number of deaths our people received.

Who were they being taught by you ask? Not booksmart people, but those who have had experience in a field. Why? Because there were no books before them. Why? Because they are the ones who wrote them. They lived and breathed them, and without them, we would not be the fu<ked up country we love to hate right now.

You gain knowledge through experience....not the other way around, if when I google who said this because I can't remember, I will place it here as well.
 
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