If you switch MS Sasuke with SM Naruto during Kage summit

[Guntah]

lol no that war arc SM naruto. if anything sasuke will be the outlasting better in the fight due to naruto's restrictions. .

It works either way, be it Pain or War arc.

 

[LoZelda101]

Well unlike Sasuke, Naruto would've killed Ay.

The third Raikage was an edo, but was also much more durable.

SM sensing>>>>Ay's speed.

All that along with his summons, he'd get pretty far.

The third raikage comparison is so easy to make i'm surprised everybody had to be reminded of it. Of course Naruto can't take all 5 Kage at once. But then again...neither did Sasuke? With Naruto, Kurama's chakra banks, Taka, Ma/Pa Toad & 4 big Toad summons- it's a lot more spread out, timewise and numbers-wise. Durable Naruto is actually really good in this scenario and i'd pay to see it.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd raikage in speed. naruto will be frog soup.

 

[LoZelda101]

It works either way, be it Pain or War arc.

nope. you're not going to tell me someone who could only use 1-2 FRS, 2-3 shadow clones max, and has to use a scroll just to quickly re-enter sagemode has a much better chance than MS sasuke. so unless naruto is prepped ASAP with several boss summons to lessen the pressure like he did against pain, then there is no way in hell that pain arc naruto has a better chance let alone winning than MS sasuke.

 

[Guntah]

nope. you're not going to tell me someone who could only use 1-2 FRS, 2-3 shadow clones max, and has to use a scroll just to quickly re-enter sagemode has a much better chance than MS sasuke. so unless naruto is prepped ASAP with several boss summons to lessen the pressure like he did against pain, then there is no way in hell that pain arc naruto has a better chance let alone winning than MS sasuke.

He will enter with two clones with Senjutsu ready for his use, Taka backing him up, all toad summons he might need at his disposal and with a full charge of Sage Mode on himself for the fight. Plus a pause to recharge in between the second and third fights where he can use Karin for his reserves and set up two more clones without having to deal with the strain of Mangekyo.

I'd say he has a pretty good chance

 

[LoZelda101]

He will enter with two clones with Senjutsu ready for his use, Taka backing him up, all toad summons he might need at his disposal and with a full charge of Sage Mode on himself for the fight. Plus a pause to recharge in between the second and third fights where he can use Karin for his reserves and set up two more clones without having to deal with the strain of Mangekyo.

I'd say he has a pretty good chance

we talking about Ay vs Pain arc naruto right? if so, ay is superior from an offensive and defensive standpoint. he is fast enough to bypass all of his supports (if deva could, then so can ay) then take out naruto. and even if he isn't able to OTK him, all he would need to do is outlast naruto by simply dodging his attacks quite easily until naruto runs out of senjutsu (which will happen fast) then ay one shots him. Frog song could work, but it takes prep time and ay could easily take them out. the only reason KCM naruto and minato dodged Ay is because their reaction time is better than pain arc naruto.

 

[Guntah]

we talking about Ay vs Pain arc naruto right? if so, ay is superior from an offensive and defensive standpoint. he is fast enough to bypass all of his supports (if deva could, then so can ay) then take out naruto. and even if he isn't able to OTK him, all he would need to do is outlast naruto by simply dodging his attacks quite easily until naruto runs out of senjutsu (which will happen fast) then ay one shots him. Frog song could work, but it takes prep time and ay could easily take them out. the only reason KCM naruto and minato dodged Ay is because their reaction time is better than pain arc naruto.

Then again Ay never went full speed against Sasuke, and that's the only reason he managed to dodge. Plus, Pain arc Naruto has Rasenshuriken and Futon: Rasengan, the latter that could bypass the Lightning Armor's defences due to an elemental advantage and the former which could very well put Ay out of commission in a direct hit which, while hard to accomplish with his speed, could very well be attained if Naruto found a way to distract him from the Shuriken itself, kind of like he did against both Pain and Kakuzu.

 

[LoZelda101]

Then again Ay never went full speed against Sasuke, and that's the only reason he managed to dodge. Plus, Pain arc Naruto has Rasenshuriken and Futon: Rasengan, the latter that could bypass the Lightning Armor's defences due to an elemental advantage and the former which could very well put Ay out of commission in a direct hit which, while hard to accomplish with his speed, could very well be attained if Naruto found a way to distract him from the Shuriken itself, kind of like he did against both Pain and Kakuzu.

Hmm.. I guess plot wise, if ay fought like he did against sasuke by not using his full speed then naruto could win. but again, to be put in a bad spot like pain was, would require Ay to be as slow as pain to begin with, which is unlikely. so it's 50/50 imo. I only say this because unlike jiraiya, while naruto's sagemode is technically better his ninjutsu wouldn't really work here. i'd argue jiraiya has a better chance of winning due to less restrictions and more useful techs in dealing with Ay

 

[Guntah]

Hmm.. I guess plot wise, if ay fought like he did against sasuke by not using his full speed then naruto could win. but again, to be put in a bad spot like pain was, would require Ay to be as slow as pain to begin with, which is unlikely. so it's 50/50 imo. I only say this because unlike jiraiya, while naruto's sagemode is technically better his ninjutsu wouldn't really work here. i'd argue jiraiya has a better chance of winning do to less restrictions and more useful techs in dealing with Ay

Yeah...we're going by the same situation as Sasuke here, so either someone get killed or enough time passes and Gaara steps in. Though I can see Jiraiya having an easier time again Ay in specific, though I would reckon the same wouldn't go for the other Kages.....

....especially Mei.

 

[Sageflash]

Naruto would put in that work at the 5 Kage Summit. Hardest fight would be old man Onoki, but he'd pull out in the end. Wouldn't need as much as saving as Sasuke either.

MS Sasuke wouldn't last 1 minute against Pain. That's a deathstomp.

 

[Styles]

Naruto would lose he doesn't have a Susano'o.

 

[King Of Pop]

we talking about Ay vs Pain arc naruto right? if so, ay is superior from an offensive and defensive standpoint. he is fast enough to bypass all of his supports (if deva could, then so can ay) then take out naruto. and even if he isn't able to OTK him, all he would need to do is outlast naruto by simply dodging his attacks quite easily until naruto runs out of senjutsu (which will happen fast) then ay one shots him. Frog song could work, but it takes prep time and ay could easily take them out. the only reason KCM naruto and minato dodged Ay is because their reaction time is better than pain arc naruto.

if Ay goes v2 from the start and blizes, then does it again naruto dies. he doesnt even need to outlast his sm limit though that is another option. one punch from him put jugo out of commision when he was in his cursed seal lv 2 mode. plus he has lateral chop which breached sasukes ribcage soosano which is far more durable than narutos body so naruto isnt going to be recovering from his hits. remember how enclosed the summit was? meaning no space for naruto to hover around or create distance in attmept to fool ay with clones and then hit him with a rasengan or frs which he can do but unlikely

frog call requires ma and pa so naruto would need prep not only to summon them(assuming he doesnt start with them) but also prepare the genjutsu, time he wont get against Ay when the guy was even keeping up with kcm narutos body speed in v1, landed some punches in the process. though ay would need v2 since naruto would comfortably react to any version below that

 

[adeshina365]

Naruto gets rolled over.

Naruto would put in that work at the 5 Kage Summit. Hardest fight would be old man Onoki, but he'd pull out in the end. Wouldn't need as much as saving as Sasuke either.

MS Sasuke wouldn't last 1 minute against Pain. That's a deathstomp.

Whatever you tell yourself boy.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Naruto would get killed by A he needed kyubi mode speed to dodge A.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Naruto would get killed by A he needed kyubi mode speed to dodge A.

Speed isn't everything like this base seems to think.

 

[Zawerni]

I like how everyone is assuming different scenarios, much like the Sasuke vs Pain thread.

The scenario is just a swap of MS Sasuke with SM Naruto. Saying things like "Ay goes v2 at the start of the fight and blitzes" isn't a valid answer.

SM Naruto sensing would allow him to avoid Ay's attacks. He could literally pull the same trick as what he did with the Third Raikage. Even if it's a War Arc feat, it is still entirely possible for Pain Arc Naruto to pull it off since it just requires SM and Rasengan.

If Naruto has Ma and Pa, then Frog Song genjutsu can be used as well with his other summons buying them time to prep.

Against Mei he can avoid her Lava Style attacks with SM sensing, and SM strength lets him break the wall to escape corrosive mist.

Ohnoki is the only issue, since Naruto doesn't have Tobi to save him like Sasuke did. He probably gets legit atomized, but only because he lacks a Kamui lifeline.

 

[Jiren]

I like how everyone is assuming different scenarios, much like the Sasuke vs Pain thread.

The scenario is just a swap of MS Sasuke with SM Naruto. Saying things like "Ay goes v2 at the start of the fight and blitzes" isn't a valid answer.

SM Naruto sensing would allow him to avoid Ay's attacks. He could literally pull the same trick as what he did with the Third Raikage. Even if it's a War Arc feat, it is still entirely possible for Pain Arc Naruto to pull it off since it just requires SM and Rasengan.

If Naruto has Ma and Pa, then Frog Song genjutsu can be used as well with his other summons buying them time to prep.

Against Mei he can avoid her Lava Style attacks with SM sensing, and SM strength lets him break the wall to escape corrosive mist.

Ohnoki is the only issue, since Naruto doesn't have Tobi to save him like Sasuke did. He probably gets legit atomized, but only because he lacks a Kamui lifeline.

Naruto pull that trick because there were shinobis around him smarter than he was to feed intel to hom.in the same scenario naruto wont be able to do that. Sm. Naruto cant even keep up with blind madara he loses big time

 

[Zawerni]

Naruto pull that trick because there were shinobis around him smarter than he was to feed intel to hom.in the same scenario naruto wont be able to do that. Sm. Naruto cant even keep up with blind madara he loses big time

The only reason he needed that intel was because of the Third Raikage's special impenetrable body, which the Fourth Raikage doesn't have.

 

[Jiren]

The only reason he needed that intel was because of the Third Raikage's special impenetrable body, which the Fourth Raikage doesn't have.

Sm naruto cant touch the 4th tbh. Sasuke coated susanoo with enton. If rasenshuriken cant touch 3rd what makes u think it touches A

 

[Zawerni]

Sm naruto cant touch the 4th tbh. Sasuke coated susanoo with enton. If rasenshuriken cant touch 3rd what makes u think it touches A

Sasuke's Sharingan couldn't keep up with Raikage speed. SM Naruto's sensing can, and it allows him to dodge and counter at the last possible second.

Rasenshuriken did touch Third, but because of his body it wasn't very effective. Which again, Fourth doesn't have. Though I never mentioned Rasenshuriken in my post.

 

[Jiren]

Sasuke's Sharingan couldn't keep up with Raikage speed. SM Naruto's sensing can, and it allows him to dodge and counter at the last possible second.

Rasenshuriken did touch Third, but because of his body it wasn't very effective. Which again, Fourth doesn't have. Though I never mentioned Rasenshuriken in my post.

Blind Madara blitzed sm naruto. 4th would do the same and prob kill him