If Tobi fought 8 Gates Gai and went to cube world to outlast Gai, is that a forfeit?

[Inert Brian]

Pretty much what the OP says. Keep in mind that if a thread specifically stated Tobi could not run away that is a completely different thing. We're looking at this in an unspecified sense.

This is a fight looking at (as illogical as it is) Gai blindly pulling out 8 gates right from the start. It's not like Deidara vs Sasuke where Deidara was forced in to C0. Gai pulls it out because he feels like it.

I'll throw some arguments both ways to give you guys a better understanding.

Why it should be a forfeit:

If they stay for a certain period of time, it's an automatic loss..If they use their technique to escape, it doesn't change the fact that they didn't use their own technique to defeat the other..so my point still stands. They didn't defeat the person.

You can't return to a fight when it is over. [Definition of fight: a violent confrontation or struggle]....you escape because you can't take part in it..Therefore you lost against that person since you can't confront or challenge the person. That's not happening because the essence of the fight has been ruined.

Someone waiting for another to die somewhere else means he can't fight the person..he's therefore not stronger than the person and isn't a match for the person since he can beat the person by his/herself or by his/her power. Therefore they lose the battle since they are not partaking in it..Simple

Well, for me, it also counts as he ran away. It's a difference to teleport into his dimension to escape one blow, or to just teleport away and to wait until the opponent dies by the disadvantages of his technique. Of course...he wouldn't win the "battle", as there never was a battle

Why it should not be a forfeit:

The winner of a vs thread is based on the objective, Which is (generally) to defeat the other opponent until they die.

This is fine and all, but if they are using a technique to escape from a certain attack then return to the battlefield is called strategy.

If they stay there until the enemy exhausts himself is called outlasting. Outlasting means "to live or last longer than"

Forfeit means escaping from battlefield, but the problem here is that, the whole world is Obito's battlefield as he can travel to any part of the world within a sec.

So, Obito is not bounded. Gai on the other hand is time bound due to 8th gate. i'm 100% certain that if Shikaku/Shikamaru were to give their input on this matchup, they would definitely count Obito's Kamui as a win cuz its a smart move. They are ninjas for fks sake. Anything for survival is a win.

 

[Raijingan]

No he wins

 

[Omegga Shenron]

thats IF he can get to the cube world, while he materializes, gai could blitz solo him

 

[Djordje]

no that is a coward

 

[Inert Brian]

thats IF he can get to the cube world, while he materializes, gai could blitz solo him

Look at it as he succeeds in getting to cube world.

 

[Prog]

Some people might consider that to be ring-out disqualification. But I guess it's up to the OP to decide what does or doesn't go. OP can allowing it if they want a quick, lame, pointless debate/thread.

 

[AshurSeku]

It's like kicking a guy in the balls. A ***** move= unfair.

 

[Inert Brian]

Some people might consider that to be ring-out disqualification. But I guess it's up to the OP to decide what does or doesn't go. OP can allowing it if they want a quick, lame, pointless debate/thread.

If it was never specified in the OP that Obito could not leave the area, does that disqualify him is the purpose of the thread basically.

 

[The Masked Sage]

It does not

 

[A$AP Wap]

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Defends if 8 Gates last 5 Mins or not.
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[Venomous Cobra]

Nah that would mean that tobi needed to ran which means he couldn't keep fighting which means he lost -_-

 

[Prog]

If it was never specified in the OP that Obito could not leave the area, does that disqualify him is the purpose of the thread basically.

If it wasn't specified, then I guess it goes.

 

[Inert Brian]

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Defends if 8 Gates last 5 Mins or not.
Because Tobi could just chill in his Kamui Dimension for 5min.[SUB]

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His phasing powers last 5 minutes, not teleporting his whole body in to cube world

 

[Kαmi]

It's not as if he has to stay in there for a continuous time period. He could go in, stay in for a while, come back out. As the fight progresses, he can choose whether or not to go back in when necessary.

 

[Inert Brian]

It's not as if he has to stay in there for a continuous time period. He could go in, stay in for a while, come back out. As the fight progresses, he can choose whether or not to go back in when necessary.

Basically it's looking at it as if Tobi stayed in Cube world until Gai was completely dead. Gai would squash him the second he left.

 

[Kαmi]

Basically it's looking at it as if Tobi stayed in Cube world until Gai was completely dead. Gai would squash him the second he left.

Well Gai doesn't have sensory so it's not as if he'll always find Tobi right away. Though in the scenario that Tobi would just stay in cube world, I wouldn't mark it as a forfeit. If Tobi is able to force Gai to the point to use his best technique, that is a risk he is taking. Kamui is another technique just as 8 Gates is for Gai.

 

[Inert Brian]

Well Gai doesn't have sensory so it's not as if he'll always find Tobi right away. Though in the scenario that Tobi would just stay in cube world, I wouldn't mark it as a forfeit. If Tobi is able to force Gai to the point to use his best technique, that is a risk he is taking. Kamui is another technique just as 8 Gates is for Gai.

Sorry I should have been more specific. This is a fight looking at (as illogical as it is) Gai blindly pulls out 8 gates right from the start. It's not like Deidara vs Sasuke where Deidara was forced in to C0. Gai pulls it out because he feels like it.

 

[Dãrth1]

It's his ability
It isn't running away
It's tatical retreating
And he could just be intangible while laughing at the efforts of Gai trying to hit him

 

[FlyingRaijinLVL2]

Its definitely a bïtch move, but its not really a forfeit.

 

[CDT23]

He would be dead before Gai opens the last one. But if Gai does open it he wouldnt get the chance to run. Gai was faster than Madara who was keeping Obito from phasing. He would be owned in the first set of attacks from Gai.