IF Sasuke learn or possess Sage mode ,Naruto is surely have no win.

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Naruto said he was able to hurt him because it was natural energy, not senjutsu. It was said that natural energy can counter natural energy. Kirin is natural energy manipulated by chackra.

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I already explained why Kirin is not senjutsu, and now you don't even seem to know what Senjutsu is, lmao.
 

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Tobirama, a Senju who has a great amount of chakra and a brother who knows SM, wasn't able to master SM. Also, Orochimaru, who's been trying to master SM but wasn't able to despite his work, If those two couldn't attain SM, what makes you think Sasuke can?

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ballerjordan said:
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I already explained why Kirin is not senjutsu, and now you don't even seem to know what Senjutsu is, lmao.

I have never stated Karin is senjutsu and also gave you a manga page where it it said that the Juubi is natural energy. It is also said that natural energy can counter natural energy.

 

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I have never stated Karin is senjutsu and also gave you a manga page where it it said that the Juubi is natural energy. It is also said that natural energy can counter natural energy.

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Let me tell you what is happening there, Naruto is explaining Sasuke that only Sage mode can affect Obito, Sasuke is interpreting what Naruto is saying and hence said that 'only Natural energy can affect Natural energy, eh?'
He isn't making a statement.. And even if somehow Kirin is affecting Obito do you think that Sasuke can keep Obito stand-still for a moment using mere Susano'o, dude Obito just took Minato-fastest shinobi's arm, so Kirin is useless....
 

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The amount of bs you pull from your ass is amazing.

I'm not even going to discuss your hypothesis concerning Sasuke, because all I need to do to burst your bubble of insanity is to find the first mistake in your logic.... hmmmm... here it is:
Since Naruto possess kurama chakra and the other small portion of tailbeasts chakra,then this mean Naruto is also vulnerable to Senjutsu ,similarly to jubito/Obito.Naruto sage mode is not enough for any attacks current Sasuke throw at him.This mean Naruto will need another power up or asspull jutsu to get even with Sasuke.
Firstly, guess who is also vulnerable to Senjutso... yes that's right, EVERYBODY (including Sasuke)!
Now for the fault in your logic;
First you state that Naruto has Kurama chakra, which by the way is in every aspect similar to Senjutso, since Kurama gathers Natural chakra like SM.
Then you state the obvious, which is that SM Naruto is not the same level as EMS Sasuke.
Then you completly forget your first point and say Naruto needs a new power up...FAIL, according to your first point on the quote, Naruto already has BM, so not only he doesn't need a new powerup to beat Sasuke, he doesn't even need SM to defeat Sasuke.

Now for the last part, if Sasuke was able to combine his EMS with SM, Naruto would also be able to do the same with BM and SM, which in turn crashes the rest of your thread.

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Let me tell you what is happening there, Naruto is explaining Sasuke that only Sage mode can affect Obito, Sasuke is interpreting what Naruto is saying and hence said that 'only Natural energy can affect Natural energy, eh?'
He isn't making a statement.. And even if somehow Kirin is affecting Obito do you think that Sasuke can keep Obito stand-still for a moment using mere Susano'o, dude Obito just took Minato-fastest shinobi's arm, so Kirin is useless....

This. Sasuke barely has much knowledge on Sage mode, he had no idea what it was when he fought Kabuto, he was merely assuming Nature counters Nature. There's more to it than that.
 

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I have never stated Karin is senjutsu and also gave you a manga page where it it said that the Juubi is natural energy. It is also said that natural energy can counter natural energy.


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Going by your logic:

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Why didn't it say Nature energy? lmao, it's because you're wrong. Senjutsu is the key word.

Same with the attack Gamakichi used, it was a senjusu attack. Gamakichi balanced 1/3 Nature energy, 1/3 physical, and 1/3 spiritual energies. Just Nature energy won't work.

Oh, and don't bring in the bs arguement "Nature counters nature", that was Sasuke merely interpreting what Naruto is explaining to him.
 

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I seriously don't get these people.
1 day they say Sasuke is already stronger, that Naruto is the one that needs to catch up.
day after they're stealing Naruto's abilities and giving them to Sasuke to give him the chance to be stronger than Naruto...

if he's already stronger/better than Naruto why do you feel the need to give him more stuff???
 

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Sachchidanand said:
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Let me tell you what is happening there, Naruto is explaining Sasuke that only Sage mode can affect Obito, Sasuke is interpreting what Naruto is saying and hence said that 'only Natural energy can affect Natural energy, eh?'
He isn't making a statement.. And even if somehow Kirin is affecting Obito do you think that Sasuke can keep Obito stand-still for a moment using mere Susano'o, dude Obito just took Minato-fastest shinobi's arm, so Kirin is useless....

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This. Sasuke barely has much knowledge on Sage mode, he had no idea what it was when he fought Kabuto, he was merely assuming Nature counters Nature. There's more to it than that.

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Why didn't it say Nature energy? lmao, it's because you're wrong. Senjutsu is the key word.

Same with the attack Gamakichi used, it was a senjusu attack. Gamakichi balanced 1/3 Nature energy, 1/3 physical, and 1/3 spiritual energies. Just Nature energy won't work.

Naruto never said that Sage Mode is doing the job. Naruto said that senjutsu attacks work, not senjutsu works. Keep your facts facts. It says in the page you provided . He also said that hee feels natural energy from the Juubi.

There are little reasons why Sasuke's deduction would be wrong. He does not need to have previous knowledge on senjutus for his deduction to be wrong. Furthermore, if his deduction would be wrong, it would add nothing to the development of the plot. It is Sasuke's deduction after all, not of a random fodder.

If you are going to say that it is a wrong deduction back your opinion up with facts.
 

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Tobirama, a Senju who has a great amount of chakra and a brother who knows SM, wasn't able to master SM. Also, Orochimaru, who's been trying to master SM but wasn't able to despite his work, If those two couldn't attain SM, what makes you think Sasuke can?

Aaah, it's nice to dream isn't it?
Orichimaru did not have the body requirement for SM,this is why he needed Sasuke body( since part 1) to become immortal.Kabuto said DSM made him close to So6p level during his battle with Sasuke and itachi
 

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let end this thread,there is no hope for narutards
 

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I stopped after reading '' i'm not a troll''
 

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Naruto never said that Sage Mode is doing the job. Naruto said that senjutsu attacks work, not senjutsu works. Keep your facts facts. It says in the page you provided . He also said that hee feels natural energy from the Juubi.

There are little reasons why Sasuke's deduction would be wrong. He does not need to have previous knowledge on senjutus for his deduction to be wrong. Furthermore, if his deduction would be wrong, it would add nothing to the development of the plot. It is Sasuke's deduction after all, not of a random fodder.

If you are going to say that it is a wrong deduction back your opinion up with facts.

That's what according to me makes his deduction wrong...
Wayne Rooney is the highest paid footballer in EPL.-fact
Wayne Rooney plays for Manchester United.-fact
Now one will easily deduce that MANU owner is richest owner in EPL, which is wrong.
In short,if you have less information there are high chances of your deduction going wrong, so Sasuke's deduction will be wrong-high probability, and last but not the least if Kirin somehow affects Obito it won't harm him a bit...
Well I can't explain it better than this, so bye...
 

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You do realize all this means is that Naruto won't be invulnerable to Sasuke's attacks? This in no way means that Sasuke will be able to go toe to toe with Naruto. For instance, Naruto can hurt Obito, but it's very clear that SM isn't enough on its own to beat Obito.
 

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You do realize all this means is that Naruto won't be invulnerable to Sasuke's attacks? This in no way means that Sasuke will be able to go toe to toe with Naruto. For instance, Naruto can hurt Obito, but it's very clear that SM isn't enough on its own to beat Obito.

I use manga fact and you guys still deny it.Naruto fans are too bias
 

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Orichimaru did not have the body requirement for SM,this is why he needed Sasuke body( since part 1) to become immortal.Kabuto said DSM made him close to So6p level during his battle with Sasuke and itachi

Kabuto didn't have Sasuke's body yet he got DSM by increasing his chakra reserves and modifying his body from the DNA of other people. Orochimaru wanted Sasuke's body for the sharingan just like he tried to get Itachi's before.

Also, he is already immortal.

And if Orochimaru didn't have the body requirements for SM, what makes you think that Sasuke does? (which was the point from my previous post)

I didn't see any Uchiha with SM and if an Uchiha gets SM it should obviously be Madara as he has larger chakra reserves than Sasuke AND has Hashirama's DNA.
 
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I use manga fact and you guys still deny it.Naruto fans are too bias

You showed manga facts that Naruto's vulnerable to Kirin and senjutsu, not that Sasuke>Naruto. Those are 2 different things entirely. Also, your reasons for Kirin>ransenshuriken are flawed.

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Notice how the raikage's lightning armor is gone and his body's smoking? That means that ransenshuriken broke through the armor, but his body was strong enough to tank what was left of the ransenshuriken.
 

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sasuke cleary doesnt understand the how natural energy works
he has no sage mode
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