If Sasuke faced Pain instead of Naruto...

[FlyingRaijinLVL2]

He fücking dies.

 

[Yokaze Sama]

Kirin and every other element attack gets absorbed by Gakido.
Susanoo arrows and amaterasu get absorbed.
Shurado spams missles until Susanoo gets destroyed or Tendo uses Bansho Tenin to pull Sasuke out (there is no evidence that it wouldn't work). High yield shinra tensei negs any defense Sasuke has to offer.

Saukes only hope is Tai Jutsu because of it's precognition ability.

 

[Coolest Guy]

Sasuke's left nut> Pain

 

[Joon]

Please tell me how can they counter Amaterasu, I'll wait

The Six Path's have Shared Vision and sensing skills which detect Amaterasu. Also Preta Path is not the only Six Path able to defend against Amaterasu. Deva Path as well with Shinra Tensei.

And you act like Amaterasu is hard to counter.

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[The Demon Hawk]

If he tries to use CT and ST before Sasuke, he loses even faster, because he has to literally turn off the Paths and they fall down like lifeless bodies as we saw with Konan watching over the paths with Animal Path summoned all the bodies outside Konoha.

That shall be the almighty Shinra Tensei which destroyed the entire village. But if that's launched, then it is over for Sasuke. But after using one already, he won't be able to use another. Plus, that's risky as it reduces Nagato's lifespan.

Even if Sasuke has no intel on them, he's a very, very smart fella.

I agree with that. He would gather intel on spot.

He would know something is up and would try to take Pain down with two arrows. He deflects one and the second outright kills him. He has zero S/T techs to dodge it anyway. That 5 second cool-down window spells death for him.

Sasuke's arsenal is too lethal for the guy.

I agree with that. Clever idea. The only way for Pain to avoid getting hit by the second arrow would be to make such a powerful Shinra Tensei that it hits Susanoo hard while simultaneously repelling the first arrow. But Pain wouldn't think of that. He would just repel the first arrow normally. And Sasuke would take advantage of the 5 sec time limit for a second arrow. Deadly speed though.

 

[Mari Makinami]

The Six Path's have Shared Vision and sensing skills which detect Amaterasu. Also Preta Path is not the only Six Path able to defend against Amaterasu. Deva Path as well with Shinra Tensei.

And you act like Amaterasu is hard to counter.

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Can you even read? I'll bold and narrow it for you, my special friend:

Depends on what version of Pain and what version of Sasuke.

Remember that Naruto fought the nerfed version of Pain when he couldn't use gravity abilities while his paths were being destroyed, and still managed to win only thanks to Minato's chakra.

Against this version, MS Sasuke wins high to mid diff IMO, because Amaterasu GG, really. Only Gakido can counter it, and this path is pretty vulnerable to physical attacks as it's been negged even by fodders.

Against full-power Pain, both stand little to no chance.

Clearly their sensing skills weren't enough to sense FRS from Naruto that negged quite a few of Pain's bodies. Are you implying that FRS is faster than instant igniting?

And comparing weakened Pain with a Juubi Jinchuuriki? This, along with the fact that you can't even read a post before replying to it, is enough for me to leave this discussion for good, because you're either not intelligent enough or simply a troll/hater. :lol

 

[Ansatsuken]

Even blind Madara survived Amaterasu especially his sunsilk hair

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Naruto fans will say he can't beat him while Sasuke fans will say he can beat him.

 

[xxSAGExx]

...do you think he would have won and how?

No, Sasuke would die; even Naruto would die had Nagato been at full strength. Each Pein went on to fight Chunins and Jounins in Konoha so each body is about Jounin-Kage (Deva path being Kage). Naruto was training before fighting Nagato and made 2 clones to gather natural energy which means Naruto was fighting at 1/3rd his power after training but even then Deva path wasn't able to fight for most of the fight.

If you put Sasuke in the same position as Naruto except that Sasuke doesn't have the info Naruto does since he had no allies in Konoha at that time that would feed him info; Sasuke wouldn't know that the real Nagato isn't there or the capabilities of many of the Peins. Pein with Share vision would take Sasuke down in a few minutes at most (this would have been Taka Sasuke with MS. Sasuke feels pain after each MS jutsu, his sight weakens, and he uses a lot of chakra per use. Pein would absorb or deflect all of Sasuke's attacks, and his summons can cause Sasuje to use his power up

 

[shelke]

That shall be the almighty Shinra Tensei which destroyed the entire village. But if that's launched, then it is over for Sasuke. But after using one already, he won't be able to use another. Plus, that's risky as it reduces Nagato's lifespan.

I told you; he has to shut off the paths first. He cannot use it right off the bat. They channel their chakra to him, and then he flies up, creates a large epicenter spreading from him on the ground, and then uses it. It is hardly a fast tech, when it has several prep stages.

Even if by some miracle of Grace, Sasuke doesn't catch that, then his Sharingan can easily detect the large surge of chakra within Pain. He can easily fly up with CS2, even if it's Hebi Sasuke and with MS hawk is summoned to avoid the massive shock-wave. Sasuke has many counters to Almighty Push. With CT, he has to be in close proximity to Nagato and has to shut off all the paths as well, as it taken even greater toll on his body.

I agree with that. Clever idea. The only way for Pain to avoid getting hit by the second arrow would be to make such a powerful Shinra Tensei that it hits Susanoo hard while simultaneously repelling the first arrow. But Pain wouldn't think of that. He would just repel the first arrow normally. And Sasuke would take advantage of the 5 sec time limit for a second arrow. Deadly speed though.

Shinra Tensai hit both Kakashi and Hinata and nothing happened to them. Hinata is more fragile than Kakashi, but she still sustained the hit. Pain had to deliver a stab to put her down for good. Kakashi merely shrugged it off. Pain was at full power during both the incidents.

His normal ST isn't that big to reach someone who is quite far away as Sasuke is clever enough to maintain his distance. He has always proven himself to be a master tactician. The far-reaching ST would be from Nagato, as it's all the power in one body.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Even blind Madara survived Amaterasu especially his sunsilk hair

Because Ameterasu ignited his armor not his body, hence why he took his armor off

At another user: Shinra tensei can just push Ameterasu off like Edo nagato did with itachi's Ameterasu

I would like someone to enlighten me on how pein can absorb susano arrows when he didn't absorb any of itachi's susano technique, as nagato, the original body????

 

[Shino1584]

I still don't see how Sasuke deals with all the summons at the beginning. He has Aoda and maybe a few other large snakes but I don't know if they could handle the multi-headed dog as even Naruto's toads had issues with them. Additionally, it didnt take the Deva path that long to regain his powers and once he does, Sasuke has no shot. Also, would people stop trying to make amaterasu out to be some god level tech. Nowhere in the manga has it ever taken out anyone. To be honest, Naruto won the Pain fight with some plot help similar to Sasuke "winning" against Bee or him surviving his stunt at the Kage summit. Just as I dont think MS Sasuke could beat Pain, I don't think SM Naruto could beat Bee or Danzo at the time that Sasuke fought either of them.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Because Ameterasu ignited his armor not his body, hence why he took his armor off

At another user: Shinra tensei can just push Ameterasu off like Edo nagato did with itachi's Ameterasu

I would like someone to enlighten me on how pein can absorb susano arrows when he didn't absorb any of itachi's susano technique, as nagato, the original body????

But the fire should have catched his hair as that was nature of fire.:sdo:

 

[BenjerminGaye]

If it's just him he'd lose. He has no concrete way to put the animals down bar ama and susanno.

 

[Nagi]

Saw how Itachi shut down Nagato? Sasuke would do the same. GG

Karin would pinpoint Nagato for Sasuke.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

But the fire should have catched his hair as that was nature of fire.:sdo:

Bruh if Kishi was using logic, he should be sweating from the heat of the flames.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I told you; he has to shut off the paths first. He cannot use it right off the bat. They channel their chakra to him, and then he flies up, creates a large epicenter spreading from him on the ground, and then uses it. It is hardly a fast tech, when it has several prep stages.

Even if by some miracle of Grace, Sasuke doesn't catch that, then his Sharingan can easily detect the large surge of chakra within Pain. He can easily fly up with CS2, even if it's Hebi Sasuke and with MS hawk is summoned to avoid the massive shock-wave. Sasuke has many counters to Almighty Push. With CT, he has to be in close proximity to Nagato and has to shut off all the paths as well, as it taken even greater toll on his body.

I agree with the prep part, it's quite a dragging procedure enough to run away from. And although Nagato isn't stupid enough to waste so much chakra on Sasuke and use that Shinra Tensei, but even if he does, Sasuke has counters like MS Hawk and CS2. Also, Sasuke can take advantage of that extensive recharge time period to finish him off.

You've done your research about it about it quite well, I'm impressed. I never though about that, even though my brain works pretty good when it comes to developing Sasuke's counters.

Shinra Tensai hit both Kakashi and Hinata and nothing happened to them. Hinata is more fragile than Kakashi, but she still sustained the hit. Pain had to deliver a stab to put her down for good. Kakashi merely shrugged it off. Pain was at full power during both the incidents.

You're right, Hinata survives it = Anybody survives it. But there was one powerful one also which sent Gamabunta and two other toads flying towards the outskirts of the village, something to take note of. Sasuke surely will survive a repulsion with Susanoo of course, but the returning towards Pain's location will take more than 5 sec in which Pain's powers will be recharged for another shot. So basically Sasuke will act like a persistent bug which will tire the crap out of Pain.

His normal ST isn't that big to reach someone who is quite far away as Sasuke is clever enough to maintain his distance. He has always proven himself to be a master tactician. The far-reaching ST would be from Nagato, as it's all the power in one body.

Yes, if thought about, there are counters for Pain's Shinra Tensei as well. The only thing left is Chibaku Tensei. Got any counters for that?

I still don't see how Sasuke deals with all the summons at the beginning. He has Aoda and maybe a few other large snakes but I don't know if they could handle the multi-headed dog as even Naruto's toads had issues with them. Additionally, it didnt take the Deva path that long to regain his powers and once he does, Sasuke has no shot. Also, would people stop trying to make amaterasu out to be some god level tech. Nowhere in the manga has it ever taken out anyone. To be honest, Naruto won the Pain fight with some plot help similar to Sasuke "winning" against Bee or him surviving his stunt at the Kage summit. Just as I dont think MS Sasuke could beat Pain, I don't think SM Naruto could beat Bee or Danzo at the time that Sasuke fought either of them.

@bold He'll kill Animal Path. Won't that be enough?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Saw how Itachi shut down Nagato? Sasuke would do the same. GG

Karin would pinpoint Nagato for Sasuke.

He doesn't have totska, he doesn't have itachi lvl shuriken justu. Try again.

 

[Nagi]

He doesn't have totska, he doesn't have itachi lvl shuriken justu. Try again.

Umm yes he do. Go read early part 2 again. Don't need Totska blade. Chidori blade is enough to stab the Nagato's heart out. shit Genjutsu his ass. Manga said nothing about rinnegan genjutsu beating MS genjutsu.

 

[Nagi]

Kirin and every other element attack gets absorbed by Gakido.
Susanoo arrows and amaterasu get absorbed.
Shurado spams missles until Susanoo gets destroyed or Tendo uses Bansho Tenin to pull Sasuke out (there is no evidence that it wouldn't work). High yield shinra tensei negs any defense Sasuke has to offer.

Saukes only hope is Tai Jutsu because of it's precognition ability.

Can't PP Kirin. Shit is an area attack and too fast.