If Sasuke faced Pain instead of Naruto...

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What about Kirin? I think that is his only shot.

Ribcage Susanno>kirin

Kirin is a very weak jutsu, just fast.

Gaaras sand could block it if ribcage could.

Shinra tensei negs Kirin.

Hell hirudora destroyed v3 Susanno and Kisame tanked that.
 

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Ribcage Susanno>kirin

Kirin is a very weak jutsu, just fast.

Gaaras sand could block it if ribcage could.

Shinra tensei negs Kirin.

Hell hirudora destroyed v3 Susanno and Kisame tanked that.

Ribcage didn't block kirin. It was v3 at the very least, and it left itachi on the floor.
 

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At the end of the day, that speed that Sasuke displayed is more than enough for Nagato.

No. It's not. Since the only reason it worked the first time (and only time mind you) is because kabuto was controlling nagato and had to fight two jins.

Sasuke doesn't have those luxuries. He doesn't even have a concrete way to deal with the animals outside of ama.
 

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everyone has their what if moments then lets think about this Screw attack style. sasuke against each of the paths

deva path aka almighty push and pull against sasuke of that time which one newly aquired mangekyo sharingan.
all he had is amatarasu, susanoo, visual genjutsu, fire release chidori and kirin

the only way i think sasuke would've defeated deva path is thru kirin but that would be difficult in himself because it takes chakra to perform since he needs to use chidori. Pain would most likely know about Kirin since Zetsu witnessed the entire battle between Sasuke and the Itachi. Therefore Pain would most likely prevent it from happening by either making sure that no fire style techniques ascends to the clouds so thunder and lightning wouldn't generate, or he would kill sasuke before sasuke would use kirin as a last resort. all the other techniques could easily be countered by shira tensei or the rinnegan itself.

i would continue but i am beginning to get lazy at my own strategy of the proving sasuke would get owned by pain. with med difficulty of course.
 

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lol when people say sasuke can do better with taijutsu/kinjutsu than SM naruto... XD don't underestimate pain.. SM provides exclusive boost in physical attributes... sasuke cannot hope to match that... infact six on 1, sasuke won't stand a chance in a straight out taijutsu/kinjutsu battle when SM naruto was being matched in that department... heck naruto only took out pains with distractions and help from sage toads... their shared vision was destroyed swallowed by toad, smoke bombs and clones (clones did the most), sasuke has none of this. His only strong point is susano and that won't last as long as one narutos clone's SM and amaterasu burns slowly, so even if he manages to hit a body or 2 with all the distractions, preta can still absorb it before body is destroyed or may be deva can even ST it that is if he somehow bears the pain from using it once and doesn't feel any backlash either and has chakra to spam it.. sounds far fetched, right?....
Naruto couldn't win that, sasuke gets destroyed....
 
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He would get fodderized low diff.(with intel mid diff)
 

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I agree with the prep part, it's quite a dragging procedure enough to run away from. And although Nagato isn't stupid enough to waste so much chakra on Sasuke and use that Shinra Tensei, but even if he does, Sasuke has counters like MS Hawk and CS2. Also, Sasuke can take advantage of that extensive recharge time period to finish him off.

You've done your research about it about it quite well, I'm impressed. I never though about that, even though my brain works pretty good when it comes to developing Sasuke's counters.

Precisely. Almighty Push isn't a fast tech. It requires a lot of prep time. That is a large window for Sasuke to react, either to fly up or take out Pain himself as there is no path around to stop him.

There is nothing about Sasuke's character or skill-set that I don't know. :bdpf:

You're right, Hinata survives it = Anybody survives it. But there was one powerful one also which sent Gamabunta and two other toads flying towards the outskirts of the village, something to take note of. Sasuke surely will survive a repulsion with Susanoo of course, but the returning towards Pain's location will take more than 5 sec in which Pain's powers will be recharged for another shot. So basically Sasuke will act like a persistent bug which will tire the crap out of Pain.

Yes, there was that Gamabunta part. Hard so say why it happened. But it failed to do any decent damage to humans. Since we are only concerned with humans, then that example applies. For example, Pain's ST completely destroyed Kakashi large Doton attack, but nothing happened to Kakashi's bones.

Hinata was pushed so far into rocks that they poked out, yet, Hinata was still breathing. Probably fazed, as Pain still had to stab her to get the job done. Which means she was fine otherwise. ST is definitely not a killing tech, only Almighty Push is, which can be avoided through flight with ease or going for Pain himself.

Yes, if thought about, there are counters for Pain's Shinra Tensei as well. The only thing left is Chibaku Tensei. Got any counters for that?

No. Sasuke has to stop Pain before he launches it. Which should be easy as 1) paths are completely put out of commission, 2) Deva has to run to a location that is close enough to Nagato and 3) he has to build up a very large volume of chakra.

All of this can be easily detected by Sasuke and Sharingan. Not a problem. Since Sasuke can stop him before that, there isn't any need to do anything else.


P.s:

This base never stops being stupid:

1- Sasuke's Shuriken-jutsu is better than Itachi's:


Sasuke starts using Fuma-Shurikens here:



Then performs many actions in between:

1) He jumps up, 2) uses Chidori blade with one wing, 3) cuts off the Dragon's wing and 4) goes down:






And guess what? He was STILL using Fuma Shurikens during all the above actions and pinned Deidara down as well, who was flying in air:
- Deidara, "Are these the same Shurikens he threw a second ago!"

Shows a lot where his Shuriken-jutsu prowess lie, along with his reaction rate. Clearly superior than Minato's. But then again, all Uchihas have excellent Reaction Rate and Speed. So, no surprises there.

2) Kirin is Natural Lightning. PP can only absorb Chakra.
 
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Ill let you think hard and figure it out on you're own buddy boy

There's nothing that makes my post irrelevant. You asked how could Sasuke win. I gave one the many ways and series of powers Sasuke could use to defeat Pain, that's how he'd win. Pretty straightforward...
 

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There's nothing that makes my post irrelevant. You asked how could Sasuke win. I gave one the many ways and series of powers Sasuke could use to defeat Pain, that's how he'd win. Pretty straightforward...

You know pein can absorb amaterasu right? no point in responding to that garbage post
 

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sasuke would win and he wouldn't need kurama
 

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How would sasuke win? impossible he doesn't even have senjutsu to fight him
 

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MS Sasuke would have won against 6POP, the only Path who would harm Sasuke is Deva/Yahiko. Summons are negged by Amaterasu
 

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You know pein can absorb amaterasu right? no point in responding to that garbage post

I knew it. I knew very well that you yourself didn't understand what I was saying, that's why you told me to read the OT again. You really don't understand stuff fast, do you? Why don't you do the favor of reading my post again?

Let's take a look at that post again (I've color coated it so you can understand better):
Easy. Amaterasu Animal Path summons. Susanoo Arrow Deva Path, Asura Path, Animal Path, Human Path and Naraka Path. Kenjutsu Preta Path. Kirin Nagato.

I said Sasuke uses Amaterasu on only the Animal Path summons. The rest the Paths are killed by Susanoo Arrow, excluding Preta who gets kenjutsu'd.
And BTW, Preta is the only Path that can absorb Amaterasu, all of them can't absorb it.
 

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How would sasuke win? impossible he doesn't even have senjutsu to fight him

Senjutsu is not needed to fight Pain. Naruto got owned even when he had Senjutsu. There is nothing so special about Senjutsu, and it grants no power that Pain can't handle. MS > SM.
 

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Sasuke aint got no talk no jutsu so gg pain solos
 

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I knew it. I knew very well that you yourself didn't understand what I was saying, that's why you told me to read the OT again. You really don't understand stuff fast, do you? Why don't you do the favor of reading my post again?

Let's take a look at that post again (I've color coated it so you can understand better):


I said Sasuke uses Amaterasu on only the Animal Path summons. The rest the Paths are killed by Susanoo Arrow, excluding Preta who gets kenjutsu'd.
And BTW, Preta is the only Path that can absorb Amaterasu, all of them can't absorb it.

You really think he got the time for kirin?
Sasuanoo arrow can be absorbed can't it? therefore saving the other paths
 

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Senjutsu is not needed to fight Pain. Naruto got owned even when he had Senjutsu. There is nothing so special about Senjutsu, and it grants no power that Pain can't handle. MS > SM.

Naruto got owned when he had senjutsu aka SM activated? yea okay buddy

pein couldn't handle it that's why he went flying when naruto entered sm again and he was so shocked he was like how???
 

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Senjutsu is not needed to fight Pain. Naruto got owned even when he had Senjutsu. There is nothing so special about Senjutsu, and it grants no power that Pain can't handle. MS > SM.

your wasting your time debating with him trust me

MS sasuke was proven to be stronger than SM naruto anyway by naruto on words
 
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