If Obito and Madara succeeded

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Do you think it is better than to live in a world of hatred and death?

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Sure they are being forced into it, but from a logical view, it's not that bad.

In real life
"Hey i have a solution to the perfect life"
"Awesome!"

In Naruto
"Hey I have a solution to the perfect life!"
"HELL NO! I WILL KILL ALL YOU MOTHAFUKAS!"


I mean come on. Kishi, maybe a better villain would be nice!
 
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Rather live with hatred, and death instead of an illusion.
 

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Thats not really the point. The alliance wants peace now but not a false one.
 

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You aren't living if it's in a perfect world, it's better to live in a world where you can try to stop hatred and unnecessary death
 

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Except from what the above said, having Madara do whatever he likes doesn't sound so fair.

Madara doesn't play by the rules.
 

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1 - It's an illusion.

2 - It's forced upon everyone - compare it to trying to make someone change/abandon religion.

3 - The ones responsible for it are f*cking psychopaths.
 

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You aren't living if it's in a perfect world, it's better to live in a world where you can try to stop hatred and unnecessary death

But what about a world that doesn't have it in the first place?

1 - It's an illusion.

2 - It's forced upon everyone - compare it to trying to make someone change/abandon religion.

3 - The ones responsible for it are f*cking psychopaths.

They are not psychopaths, they just want their way. And it doesnt seem so bad
 

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In real life
"Hey i have a solution to the perfect life"
"Awesome!"

In Naruto
"Hey I have a solution to the perfect life!"
"HELL NO! I WILL KILL ALL YOU MOTHAFUKAS!"
Or vise-versa, It don't matter is the same sht.
 

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no such thing as perfect, true perfection is something with both the good and the bad plus i am kinda wondering if madara truely want the perfect world. or is that just a story to string obito along
 

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But what about a world that doesn't have it in the first place?

Then how would you know if the world you live in is perfect?

Perfection is relative; in order to have a sense of perfection and feel it, you need to know when something is not perfect (aka the world's hatred, death). For every good thing that exists, a bad thing must exist opposite of it. It's human struggle to try to achieve the good and rid the bad. If there was no bad, what we have left cannot be defined as good.
 

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But what about a world that doesn't have it in the first place?



They are not psychopaths, they just want their way. And it doesnt seem so bad

They're complete nutjobs who want nothing more than to hide in their imaginary little Disneyworld rather than attempting to make real change. It's pathetic.

Also, what guarantee do they have that it works? It's not like they've tried it before.

ALSO, they're killing things left and right, would you honestly trust them for that?

AND another thing, would you honestly want to live in a perfect world where everything is fake? It's like if Neo would have stayed in the Matrix. I'm sorry if the parallel is bad, I haven't seen that movie in ages.
 

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I think you guys are just trying to disagree and side with Naruto.

I would want my parents, friends, and relatives back from the dead. Illusion or not. And I wouldn't want to watch suffering and death any longer
 

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Then how would you know if the world you live in is perfect?

Perfection is relative; in order to have a sense of perfection and feel it, you need to know when something is not perfect (aka the world's hatred, death). For every good thing that exists, a bad thing must exist opposite of it. It's human struggle to try to achieve the good and rid the bad. If there was no bad, what we have left cannot be defined as good.
words of wisdom if i ever heard rep for you
 

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I think you guys are just trying to disagree and side with Naruto.

I would want my parents, friends, and relatives back from the dead. Illusion or not. And I wouldn't want to watch suffering and death any longer

That's very selfish of you to think that, death happens we can't control it.

If running away from it is your solution, fine go for it, but don't force others to be apart of it.
 

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I think you guys are just trying to disagree and side with Naruto.

I would want my parents, friends, and relatives back from the dead. Illusion or not. And I wouldn't want to watch suffering and death any longer

yes but each person has a different view of what perfect is i mean define perfect! a state in which all thing go according to plan with zero mistakes or flaws what may work for you may suck for me and ten other people thus not a perfect world but yea define perfect
 
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Thats what Madara WANTS you to think... or not. He probably just wants to rule everyone and everything. Really thinking about it, he and Hashirama fought for a reason didn't they? If all he really wants is to allow everyone to live in a perfect world i don't think he would really had been portrayed as the ruthless guy he is now. That said, his whole approach to it seems wrong. Causing even more war and hatred and claiming to want to stop war and hatred is a really stupid way to go.
 

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a fake world is a world without meaning it goes against human nature, the wish to be free to discover new things to make decisions that matter and will eco across time
all this is destroyed by a this new world, in moments of weakness people will want to belive this idea like when neji died, but we must think that it is truly important to keep life going in the way it is suposed to be to life death are things that people need to live with it's part of the human experience
 
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