[Discussion] if naruto is really fast then.....

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i have been thinking about this...if BM Naruto is really so fast then by now he should have been able to obliterate Madara a lot of times. i'll just give an example. When madara first joined obito after defeating the kages and naruto demanded to know what happened to the others and granny tsunade, madara said 'they are probably not ok' stuff like that and then naruto was mad with anger and charged at him in full force with a mini bijuu dama......he could have easily used his speed and got behind madara giving him no time to react and then blast him with bijuu dama. madara didn't even use susanoo at that time. And not only that many times after that during the war naruto could have used his speed to come in close range of madara and blast him with his super techniques. It's not like he didn't get any chances because he had awesome back-up. So why didn't he do that? Or is it that there is a limitation to his speed? We have seen KCM naruto dodge raikage's fist but that was probably the only time when we actually got to know about naruto's speed....
 

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plot -.- it wouldnt be fair if naruto just blitzed everyone now would it lol
 

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Madara can absorb ninjutsu, as a result of having the rinnegan. Only high speed taijutsu, like when Lee severed his connection with the Juubi, will work.

Naruto might be really fast but his taijutsu isn't that great. Also Madara should be able to follow his movements with the Sharingan. :x
 

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Madara lived in war and he has the sharingan since like 12. I'm sure he saw Naruto coming especially since Naruto was a pretty long way from him. Just like how Obito was able to keep up with Minato in a speed fight its the sharingan.
 
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well, there is still more of his movement to come
 

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easy

naruto is an idiot

(like when he used rasengan against edo-pain AFTER he literally just said pain absorbs all ninjutsu's)
 

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Two things involved; sharingan and the fans; wee came for a good fight and that what we expect
 

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naruto got more than emough chances to use his speed.....but he has never shown it.....he even got totally drained out of chakra trying to fight madara and co but still he didn't use his speed anywhere. Why is that? And don't say madara can read his movements because according to naruto-fanboys naruto is SOOOOOO FAST that even the sharingan cannot detect his movement.....
 

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naruto got more than emough chances to use his speed.....but he has never shown it.....he even got totally drained out of chakra trying to fight madara and co but still he didn't use his speed anywhere. Why is that? And don't say madara can read his movements because according to naruto-fanboys naruto is SOOOOOO FAST that even the sharingan cannot detect his movement.....
this pure plonno jutsu... naruto second faster shinobi in narutoverse manga fact
 

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this...thats why his speed wont be a big factor to sasuke.

Sasuke's Sharingan couldn't keep up with Ay or Bee. I wouldn't say that Naruto will gain the upper hand just because of his speed, but saying it "won't be a big factor to Sasuke" is just overestimating him.
 

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This was just plot so that we can see the full extent of the war tool that Madara had. Kishi just wanted to expose why Madara could last a bit longer against Hashirama. That guitar like tool help him repel Jutsu. This was in no way a showing of Naruto's speed.
 

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there's a general misunderstanding of naruto's BM speed,his speed is like any other jinchuuriki powered with his bijuu chakra,almost the same as A's V1 speed,he only reaches the speed we saw against A when he uses the bodyflicker,which is a jutsu that cannot be used often and continuesly in battle.
also you have to take in that it was naruto's first day of using kurama's chakra in this form,and he's not quite accustomed to this speed yet.so that's why he only uses bodyflicker in critical moments only.
it could be because of all this long explanation or kishimoto is trolling him again.
 
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Sasuke's Sharingan couldn't keep up with Ay or Bee. I wouldn't say that Naruto will gain the upper hand just because of his speed, but saying it "won't be a big factor to Sasuke" is just overestimating him.

idk about that. im not sasuke fanboy by any means but we will say naruto couldnt get to madara for plot rite.....now why would that pot change for one of the most anticipated fight in naruto? im not disagreeing with you at all but there is another factor when sasuke fought ay and bee he only had ms, now he has ems....and we havint seen much from that. you figure at the end not naruto or sasuke will have the upper hand simply because of plot and the epicness of that fight. that being said (and this has been the tale of the manga) everytime naruto or sasuke gets a power up the other gets something to match it.
 

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What good is speed when fighting a reanimating body?
 
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idk about that. im not sasuke fanboy by any means but we will say naruto couldnt get to madara for plot rite.....now why would that pot change for one of the most anticipated fight in naruto? im not disagreeing with you at all but there is another factor when sasuke fought ay and bee he only had ms, now he has ems....and we havint seen much from that. you figure at the end not naruto or sasuke will have the upper hand simply because of plot and the epicness of that fight. that being said (and this has been the tale of the manga) everytime naruto or sasuke gets a power up the other gets something to match it.

EMS doesn't give the user a better ability at tracking movements and or chakra... I like your speculation but your adding things that weren't stated in the manga itself.... As far as we know Madara himself couldn't track Ay at top speed...arguably its because of Oonoki's weighted boulder technique however.... raikage faced 5 madaras solo and was forced into a genjutsu after being distracted by Tsunade so that suggest that his own speed is a huge contribution.

Reason why he didn't blitz.... Um Obito?
If naruto blitzed madara mindlessly there's a chance he could get caught in Kamui, not only that if he fails to One hit Madara he would have used up allot of chakra for nothing... plus he has no sealing techniques, Madara would just rematerialize. The smart thing to do is take some time to learn about the opponent.
 
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