If Madara gave his eyes to Nagato, why was he revived with rinnegan?

[Hawker]

Why is this so hard for you guys? Wasn't it said that when reviving someone with Edo Tensei they come back alive as they were at the peak of their shinobi life.

So, Madara having rinnegan = at the peak of his shinobi life.

 

[KevinPJH]

I thought it was said that Edo Tensei revives people in their prime... Either that or i assumed it and accepted it, as it is only a Manga/Anime, it is meant to be full of fantasy, untrue stuff.

 

[Stark]

Madara got DNA from before he gave his eyes away.

 

[StrifeMaccy]

kabuto made him special as an Edo. He couldnt leave that cave as he was ancient, and needed the chakra to keep him alive. He got Nagato when he was still able of not needing life support.

 

[Namikaze Haru]

Madara's edo tensei was modified by kabuto so that he was beyond his prime. read the last few chapters, madara was old when he died.

 

[Uchiha Villians]

Have we already forgotten the edo tensei's ability?

Edo Tensei revives people at their peak in power. Their Prime. Madara with the rinnegan is his Prime. When he was most powerful. As for Madara being a special, the only that was done was Kabul adding Hashrimia into Madara.

 

[GdaTyler]

Fail meme you troll. What part of "I can't leave this cave" do you not understand? The Mazou isn't portable. And he has no other way of life support. Otherwise Madara wouldn't have said "I can't leave this cave and I can't go away from this Mazou or I'll die". Smh

For christ's sake it was a joke.
Why are you taking this manga so seriously?!?
Learn to have a sense of humor. I can't believe you couldn't tell that I was joking. smh you jerk.

 

[Ryan Ensign]

Can you read? Kabuto explained that Madara's Edo Tensei was modified to beyond his prime.

 

[baeshin]

I think everyone is forgetting that we saw Nagato awaken hes eyes during the 2nd war.... when jiraiya found nagato he didnt have the rinnegan yet. So how would they be givin to him? And madara has lie about hes brother giving him hes eyes.. itachi said he took them.. besides madaras brother would give hes eyes aways so he can fight the 1st and betray the leaf? idk where the story is going but ya =D

 

[GdaTyler]

That's not even the real question here. The real question is how on earth did he end up surviving the Hashi fight, and end up dying in the first place. And also, how on earth did he manage to even get his eyes transplanted if he himself said he can't even leave that little cave he's in

Or if you want me to take it seriously like yourself, then how about MAYBE there's a way Kishi will explain it. So stfu and wait to see what happens. Don't waste your time thinking deeply on it when you could just wait. Good day to you sir for being excessively serious about a manga one is to enjoy, not create overly serious arguments on. My post was just a joke, so get a sense of humour. So you calling me a troll is irrelevant. smh

 

[Mastercheef]

Isn't Edo Tensei regenerative? To kill them you have to seal them because their bodies just regenerate. So i guess their eyes regenerated?

 

[supino]

for the time being let's just roll with 'his edo is special' as Kabuto said.

at some point Madara mentioned sth about the secrets of his body; it could be interpreted in many ways: the secret about the rinnegan and mokuton, the secret of the body's location or maybe the secret of how rinne tensei would not bring back an old man on life support but someone young and strong enough to become the 10tails host!?! maybe the reason why rinne tensei would work is also the reason Madara's edo is so vastly different.

with all the tenseis at work the plot has become sth of a gamble: use sth and if it works, it did! if not, cover it up.

 

[Getsuga Tenshou]

What people thought was that Madara died with his rinnegan, and tobi was the one who implanted them into Nagato. In the recent chapter, we found out that Madara had given his eyes to Nagato already, before his death, so how on earth was Madara revived with his original sharingan/rinnegan?

I'm not taking ''Kabuto made him get revived with it'' as a valid response.

/Discuss

Whether Madara died and Tobi transplanted his eyes into Nagato or whether Madara transplanted his eyes to Nagato before he died is irrelevant. Either way, Gedo Rinne Tensei would have revived him with his original Sharingan/Rinnegan eyes intact. You seem to have this mindset that when a person is revived in Narutoverse, their bodies will resemble their most current states. IF that were the case, then yes whether with Edo Tensei or Gedo Rinne Tensei, Madara would have came back with no eyes intact. The same with Itachi and Nagato as well. Although they died with their eyes intact, their eyes were no longer intact before they were Edo Tensei'd.

HOWEVER, I'm going with what a few people on this thread have been saying: Edo Tensei brings back people from the dead as if they were in their 'prime' years; when they were at their peak of performance. Their bodies's current states are irrelevant. I'm guessing for Madara, that would've been when he unlocked the Rinnegan. And also, you can't forget as people have mentioned that Kabuto was able to use Edo Tensei on Madara to bring him back 'beyond his prime', whatever that means.

As for Gedo Rinne Tensei, I'm not sure how that brings people back because it's only been used once and you can't really tell any differences in the people who were brought back by it. However, my theory on Gedo Rinne Tensei is that, since it seems that it can only bring back people who have been recently deceased, this means that this jutsu most likely does bring people back to life exactly how they were before they died.

 

[Codex]

I thought it was said that Edo Tensei revives people in their prime... Either that or i assumed it and accepted it, as it is only a Manga/Anime, it is meant to be full of fantasy, untrue stuff.

Edo Tensei revives people in whatever state Kishi wants them to be revived. :shrug:

But really, excepting Madara (and some might say Sasori), everyone seems to have been revived in the state prior to their death. Hence why Nagato was so emaciated, Kakuzu didn't have his spare hearts, etc.

 

[Zato]

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That should end this. When they are revived, they are brought back with all of their original powers. This is why Madara had the Rinnegan because they were his original powers before he died(this means that Madara well indeed died after awakening the Rinnegan). What we do know is that they are indeed brought back to the way they were before they died. Nagato is proof of this. If Kabuto can bring Madara back in his so called "prime" then explain why Kabuto couldn't fix Nagato's legs AND restore his chakara reserves so that he would gain the redness of his hair back?

What I think Madara did to keep himself "alive" was used Nakara path to hold his body and soul after he died and revived his self. Kabuto states he was going to do this with Naruto and Bee on this page.

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This will explain why Madara was brought back young. It makes no sense that he was brought back younger because we need to remember that when Madara's soul was leaving his body after Edo Tensei was ending, his soul was still in its prime state. This mean that Madara really did die in his prime. I think he cheated death by using the nakara path to bring him self back to life but at that point his body was too weak to really go on without life support so he was forced to be stuck to the Mazo. Which would explain why he gave Nagato his Rinnegan.

People misunderstand what Kabuto meant by "prime". What Kabuto meant was that he made Madara stronger then he was in his prime, not that he specifically brought him back in his prime and made him better. What Kabuto meant by "prime" was the Rinnegan. This is why Madara said to Kabuto "You know about my prime?". This is why Madara was wondering what Kabuto actually did to his body. He only added Hashirama's powers and that was it. We need to remember that Madara was planning to be brought back to life through Nagato. Do you really think he would be brought back as a old man? I think he died young but cheated death.

 

[Getsuga Tenshou]

@Zato very nicely said and well thought out.

 

[supino]

@Zato, very good job! +rep from me!

 

[moongem]

"While the technique usually reincarnates the deceased at the exact state they were in at the time of their deaths, Kabuto noted that he brought Madara back in a state that was "beyond his prime" and was reincarnated much younger than when he presumably died an old and wizened man. Tobi also modified the eyes of the reincarnated jinchūriki to match his own, as well as resealing the tailed beasts back into their respective hosts."

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