If Madara fought Kaguya

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If Madara fought Kaguya...

... he would have get stomped.

Naruto and Sasuke were handling Madara without problems. Yet they were doing shit against Kaguya. Then Kaguya furtherly powered herself by absorbing chakra from the Mugen Tsukuyomi victims. Luckily Kakashi entered the fray and saved the day and the world.
 

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If Madara fought Kaguya...

... he would have get stomped.

Naruto and Sasuke were handling Madara without problems. Yet they were doing shit against Kaguya. Then Kaguya furtherly powered herself by absorbing chakra from the Mugen Tsukuyomi victims. Luckily Kakashi entered the fray and saved the day and the world.
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Madara would win. First use Limbo, then use 4 Shinra Tensei. Then make 4 huge Chibaku Tensei to contain Kaguya.
Amenominaka

Kaguya can see and anticipate, dodge, or overpower any and all of Madara's attacks.
Amenominaka ends it, Giant TSB ends it, BZ paralysis ends it, etc.
And because Madara has no seals, Naruto and Sasuke would be more difficult by default.
 
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Are you guys joking,if it's juudara with rinnesharingan he recks kaguya why
better dojutsu= madara(he basically has the powers of hagoromo and kaguya,hagoromo said so himself)

more intelligent and skilled(he would be able to make better use of his dojutsu and can quickly learn to access kaguya's powers.imagine him using his rinnesharingan to make a ps mad of hagoromo and juubi's chakra,it would high diff sasuke bijuu ps and his limbo might be able to do to it,that's 6 juubi ps.)
can draw chakra from people under IT

he is immortal(both are)

To be honest the only advantage kaguya has over him would be that her body can handle extreme doses of chakra and doesn't have any limit while madara would probably explode.Only chakra advantage she has.

His eye power is far cry from Hagoromo's and Kaguya's.
Naruto and Sasuke, powered by a part of a fraction of Hagoromo's Chakra started countering Madara at every step.
The fact that Kaguya put up a better fight against Naruto and Sasuke prove her eyes are superior to Madara's as well.

Madara's intelligence and skill are total nonfactors... Kaguya is too OP. Hiruzen is more intelligent and skilled than Nagato for example, but Nagato wrecks his ass all the same.

Dimension shift ends it without doubt.
 

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Kaguya would destroy him even worse.

How so.

If Madara fought Kaguya...

... he would have get stomped.

Naruto and Sasuke were handling Madara without problems. Yet they were doing shit against Kaguya. Then Kaguya furtherly powered herself by absorbing chakra from the Mugen Tsukuyomi victims. Luckily Kakashi entered the fray and saved the day and the world.

By doing fine, you mean... when Madara casually got Sasuke busy with chibaku tensei, and had Naruto dealing with his limbo? While he slowly went towards the moon and proceeded with Tsukuyomi, while both were helpless to do anything?

Rofl, Madara would've wrecked their asses.
 
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Yeah Madara still need her power to fight her.Right?

If that the case Kaguya can just overpower Madara from inside.
 

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Madara can win via K.O. that still counts as a victory. He doesn't have to kill her. He can control gravity too so the gravity dimension is futile. The only reason Sasuke could not counter it with his gravity powers is because his Rinnegan was new at the time. Ash bones can't kill Immortals obviously since Kaguya is still alive. Both of these characters can use the Creation of All Things technique.

However Kaguya was no where near full power as Half of her chakra was elsewhere on the moon.
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If Madara fought Kaguya...

... he would have get stomped.

Naruto and Sasuke were handling Madara without problems. Yet they were doing shit against Kaguya. Then Kaguya furtherly powered herself by absorbing chakra from the Mugen Tsukuyomi victims. Luckily Kakashi entered the fray and saved the day and the world.

I don't see what you mean when you say Naruto and Sasuke was handling him no problem, all the attacks and tactic used on him were either countered or didn't phase him/ hurt him (stab by sword/ cut in half) Once Madara got his eyes back they couldn't touch him or stop IT.

OT: Anyone who isn't Hagoromo and Hamura gets negged by Kaguya.
 

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He'd lose to Kaguya. And would be less of a challenge compared to Naruto and Sasuke. He wouldn't be able to land an attack on Kaguya or seal her without a tech like Ameno. His foot speed is outclassed by Kaguya. He also doesn't have the quantity advantage like Naruto and Sasuke, a considerable factor in overwhelming Kaguya. Limbo gets owned pretty easily. Same goes for all other Rinnegan techs. And his RSM is inferior to Kaguya.
 

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If he has the same plot shield as Naruto and Sasuke he might even win. Don't know how some here tell that he will perfrorm worse where Naruto and Sasuke would have been negged at almost the start of the Kaguya fight... Forget this? >>
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Two ash bones right here and boof the duo dies.
 
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Amenominaka

Kaguya can see and anticipate, dodge, or overpower any and all of Madara's attacks.
Amenominaka ends it, Giant TSB ends it, BZ paralysis ends it, etc.
And because Madara has no seals, Naruto and Sasuke would be more difficult by default.

Madara was literally invincible. BZ was only able to transform him into Kaguya because BZ and the Shinju were Kaguya's will.
 

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I don't see what you mean when you say Naruto and Sasuke was handling him no problem, all the attacks and tactic used on him were either countered or didn't phase him/ hurt him (stab by sword/ cut in half) Once Madara got his eyes back they couldn't touch him or stop IT.

OT: Anyone who isn't Hagoromo and Hamura gets negged by Kaguya.

Because it's not like Madara's attacks and tactics were casually countered by Naruto and Sasuke and if Madara didn't use some techniques (PS, Mokuton) it's not like Naruto used his chakra avatar, let alone the Asura chakra avatar.

Oh yeah. Not in Kishimoto's manga, where Naruto could hold his own decently against Kaguya, and when Kaguya furtherly powered herself Kakashi was capable to fight very well against her, countering her moves, defending from her and blitzing and wounding her. Madara could probably hold his own against her more or less like Naruto. Neither Kakashi, nor Naruto, nor Madara could defeat Kaguya on their own, anyway, that's for sure, but they can give her a fight, especially Kakashi, as the manga did show.

By doing fine, you mean... when Madara casually got Sasuke busy with chibaku tensei, and had Naruto dealing with his limbo? While he slowly went towards the moon and proceeded with Tsukuyomi, while both were helpless to do anything?

Rofl, Madara would've wrecked their asses.

Got them busy? I saw Sasuke casually slashing through Madara's Chibaku with PS, and Naruto casually handling Linbo with some clones. Later you can see Naruto using a thousand shit of clones against Kaguya, so you could understand how much Naruto was holding back against Madara...

And they weren't helpless at all, since Sasuke's Rinnegan PS could block Madara's IT. If Naruto wasn't stupid, he could have protected himself with a Gudodama shield (like the one Madara did to protect himself from Gai's onslaught). If at that point Kakashi had his final power up, he could also have saved himself and the other with ease, teleporting in the Kamui dimension to avoid Mugen Tsukuyomi's effect, and then coming back to kick Madara's ass.
 
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Amenominaka

Kaguya can see and anticipate, dodge, or overpower any and all of Madara's attacks.
Amenominaka ends it, Giant TSB ends it, BZ paralysis ends it, etc.
And because Madara has no seals, Naruto and Sasuke would be more difficult by default.

Give Madara Laser Circus and weighted boulder tech and the battle slants steeply in his favor. But as it stands, he high-diffs Kaguya with Double limbo after taking out the brain (BZ). We still haven't seen Ash bone used on a shinobi with regenerative capability, and JJ Madara has that. Just sayin'.

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If Kaguya has her other half of her body with her (Black Zetsu) then she takes it.
 

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Give Madara Laser Circus and weighted boulder tech and the battle slants steeply in his favor. But as it stands, he high-diffs Kaguya with Double limbo after taking out the brain (BZ). We still haven't seen Ash bone used on a shinobi with regenerative capability, and JJ Madara has that. Just sayin'.

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The only Jutsu that would help Madara in any way is Kamui so Amenominaka could be countered.
But he doesn't have any of those so why bring it up at all...

I'll make it simple. What is Madara's counter to dimensional shift?
Madara was literally invincible. BZ was only able to transform him into Kaguya because BZ and the Shinju were Kaguya's will.

So he wasn't literally invincible then.
 
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The only Jutsu that would help Madara in any way is Kamui so Amenominaka could be countered.
But he doesn't have any of those so why bring it up at all...

I'll make it simple. What is Madara's counter to dimensional shift?

To refute your earlier point, Laser circus takes out the eye and can follow her into her portal. I doubt strongly that Kaguya can outrun lightning and weighted boulder counters the gravity manipulation, so kamui is not the only jutsu that can help.

To answer your question, Izanagi counters dimemsional shift and bends reality to his will (the way Obito used it on Karin). Izanami can be activated when she uses the dimensional shift more than twice. If she takes him to the Lava dimension, he can use water style to create a foothold OR just spam Izanagi to return to a familiar dimension. No other dimension poses a threat. And he wouldn't go completely blind neither because the rinnegan does not go away after using izanagi. Cheers!

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To refute your earlier point, Laser circus takes out the eye and can follow her into her portal. I doubt strongly that Kaguya can outrun lightning and weighted boulder counters the gravity manipulation, so kamui is not the only jutsu that can help.

To answer your question, Izanagi counters dimemsional shift and bends reality to his will (the way Obito used it on Karin). Izanami can be activated when she uses the dimensional shift more than twice. If she takes him to the Lava dimension, he can use water style to create a foothold OR just spam Izanagi to return to a familiar dimension. No other dimension poses a threat. And he wouldn't go completely blind neither because the rinnegan does not go away after using izanagi. Cheers!

:win:
This post is just one big assumption. No rinnegan user used izanagi before so idk where you got that from.
 
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