[Discussion] If Luffy and Zoro ever fought...
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Zoro admitted at EL that both Luffy and lucci were stronger than him so naturally Luffy would beat Zoro easier than LucciNo need to get smart mouthed cuz I spitted the facts on youalso you saying Zoro admitted inferiority back at Enies Lobby dont mean nothing Zoro obviously said that in the past although I dont know if the OP was talking about Pre TS or Post TS so yhh whatever.
So most likely it's the same post TS, post TS Luffy v Zoro won't be the same dif as Luffy v Lucci was
I can't make it any simpler
Why wont it be any different? not because someone was stronger in the past they will always be stronger in the future Zoro is probably 50x stronger than Lucci and he and luffy is close in strength so yhh that still doesnt justify your statement.
@bold mind you show me the mangapage where you took that from? I don't remember this. Besides, there is a reason why enies lobby Luffy had a clear lead over Zoro(and Sanji as well for the matter) and it's the introduction of gears. With gears he had superior speed and fire power to handle stronger opponents. However with time, the importance of gears diminished or rather a standard in Luffy's arsenal. To make it simple, here is a little comparison
Whiskey Peak-Aqua Laguna-Golem Pica comparison
- In Whiskey Peak, Luffy's bazooka rivaled Zoro's onigiri
- Against the aqua laguna(somewhere before water7/enies lobby arc), Luffy and Zoro used a combination attack. Luffy used a bazooka level attack when Zoro used a 108pound canon, originally intended to be a 216siege canon, implying both attacks were equals. According to Brook, the power of your flying slash is directly proportional to your physical strength, which is possible when you realise back in the days Luffy's bazooka was rivaled by Zoro's onigiri and that they should have had comparable evolution
- Some chapters later we get a gear introduction with gear second doubling his attacking strength/speed but later on like explained by Lucci, it was at the cost of his lifespan. Basically, Luffy really set himself apart from Zoro mainly because he decided to rely on a technique costing his life span to be the strongest, having the necessary power to protect his nakamas
- But after the timeskip, the importance of gears diminished because they lost the purpose for which they were introduced for. It causes no risk to Luffy anymore because his body grew accustomed to it to the point it became more like a standpoint(base) in his evolution(in offensive attacks) relying on gears to create his most powerful attacks when others upgraded their base stats to the point their base stats to more or less grow on Luffy's standard evolution(for those who weren't already) influencing the strength of their attacks with power-scaling. For example 108pound canon was equal to Luffy's(base and gearless) bazooka level attack when nowadays, Zoro's 1080pound phoenix(upgraded version) is comparable if not stronger than Luffy's grizzly magnum(gear3 upgraded version of base bazooka)
Because the gap between Luffy and Zoro will probably always stay the same :/
Are you really not getting tgis or just trolling?
@T Bogart Zoro said that if Luffy lost to Lucci they would all die or something like that, also if you remember, Luffy wasn't the only one who got a power up at EL
It all comes down to this: Luffy>Zoro and the fight will not be as close as Luffy v Lucci, Law v Luffy might be that close but not Luffy v Zoro,mormif you are Zoro and still don't get it ... Luffy v Licci was extreme dif, as was Kuzan v Akainu probably ... Zoro v Liffy is more along the lines of high to very high dif, but NOT extreme dif
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It's Franky who said that, not Zoro. And yes i know others got power-ups but the difference between Luffy's, Zoro's and Sanji's power-ups was that Luffy's power-up was a upgraded mode(at the cost of his lifespan) when Zoro/Sanji's power-ups were just short burst attacks, momentarily gaining a stronger fire power but their base stats remained the same or rather stronger(according to Zoro) but not on a complete different mode like the one gears gave to Luffy
And yes i already agreed it won't go to extreme. I was only explaining the character evolution
Nope that was Zoro.
Why does he need to show you a scan from a fact because you don't believe him ? But why is it ok for you to spread false information without checking your facts.
3 people are telling you now that it was Zoro, so you should be the one to look it up if you can't recall it.
Because they are wrong. I read the enies lobby arc plenty of times and Zoro never said that. The sentence they are talking about was given by Franky however. It's just that at the moment i can't look for mangapages, but if you want i'll show you that when i come back home
I'm stupid real stupid
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As much as I disagree with T Bogard he is right in saying Franky was the one who said it here's the page...
However I think some people are confusing the above page with this one...
Zoro did acknowledge though it would be a bad idea to get involved in a fight with Lucci...back when Zoro was an interesting character.
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However I think some people are confusing the above page with this one...
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Zoro did acknowledge though it would be a bad idea to get involved in a fight with Lucci...back when Zoro was an interesting character.
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Zoro is far more resilient than Lucci...
Luffy was totally drained when he defeated Lucci but he was still conscious... Unlike in TB, where he passed out after that long battle.
And Later Zoro including his grueling physical condition, withstood Luffy's each and every fragment of fatigue, considering that Luffy is a rubberman and Zoro a normal human...
Now if that's not a tank then what it is...?
To the previous point,
Lucci gave up after a certain amount of beating from Luffy, and Luffy wasn't that exhausted like he was in TB...
So, Zoro would give much more resilience than Lucci...
Zoro is far more resilient than Lucci...
Luffy was totally drained when he defeated Lucci but he was still conscious... Unlike in TB, where he passed out after that long battle.
And Later Zoro including his grueling physical condition, withstood Luffy's each and every fragment of fatigue, considering that Luffy is a rubberman and Zoro a normal human...
Now if that's not a tank then what it is...?
To the previous point,
Lucci gave up after a certain amount of beating from Luffy, and Luffy wasn't that exhausted like he was in TB...
So, Zoro would give much more resilience than Lucci...
Exactly how I feel. These kinds of threads ruin the OP feel. The only second person in OP verse for whom zoro discarded his honour was Luffy and then you start comparing the 2. Childish to say the least.
That's such bullsh1t and you know it, you can't compare it like that.
If you want to compare anything compare how Zoro did against Kaku with only half of Lucci's Douroki.
That wasn't the same Zoro as in Thriller Bark. Besides it's uncertain if Zoro did take 'each and every fragment' of his fatigue and pain because Zoro thanked Kuma for his mercy on sabaody.
He already made the deal to let the rest of the crew live, he thanked him for that on Thriller Bark. So it could very well be that Kuma spared Zoro at that moment he made the sacrifice because Kuma dais it would mean certain death. Kuma was allied to the sh's in the first part after all, but had to pretend to be a shichibukai for the government.