If Kishi had his way, Naruto would have been a 1000 times better.

[DeMaggio]

I've seen all the best animes including deathnote. I agree that it was amazing, but no where near Naruto. And I refuse to watch one piece, everything about it seems ridiculous.

You really have to like awkward/absurd and different things to like One Piece. Shet is definitely weird but the fights and story are amazing.

 

[Nous]

I've seen all the best animes including deathnote. I agree that it was amazing, but no where near Naruto. And I refuse to watch one piece, everything about it seems ridiculous.

How bout Legend of Galactic Heroes [I believe that's it's name]?

 

[Vincent Pryce]

I've seen all the best animes including deathnote. I agree that it was amazing, but no where near Naruto. And I refuse to watch one piece, everything about it seems ridiculous.

I've seen all the best animes but not One Piece? That doesn't really make sense, since, well One Piece has way more sales than pretty much every manga out there
Anyway, if you haven't, watch toriko too. Toriko and One Piece are both a lot better than naruto imo

 

[The God of Wind]

Did you read his post? Not once did he say that he thought the manga was bad, he was merely implying that it could be better if Kishi was allowed to do things his way. The OP even said Kishi has the greatest story. And liking characters based off of level of importance? Sounds like a bandwagon fan to me Lol

OT: Completely agree. I feel like Kishi didn't get to develop characters the way he could have or would have liked to. Some things in the manga feel rushed as well so it makes you wonder what if Kishi didn't have any deadlines. Chance are we'd get a better story simply because the author wouldn't have any pressure.

Yeah, I wish we lived in a world where human beings didn't act like scavenging vultures.

Your pissed off at me, yet i didn't say a word about you.. nice to know, how smart you are.

Kishi's own thoughts.. and i shared mines, so what is the problem?

Seriously?! You think retracting your stupidity makes you any less of a moron? Hint: Makes you a bigger one.

You really have to like awkward/absurd and different things to like One Piece. Shet is definitely weird but the fights and story are amazing.

Yeah, I don't like those things.

How bout Legend of Galactic Heroes [I believe that's it's name]?

Nope, haven't seen it.

 

[Xāvî1]

It is already better. . Kishimoto can just a F*ck you and leave.. and then they loose their main attraction.. . Kishimoto can also just go to another publication source and make them money..

Just because you fans don't like that he hasn't given yall fan service .. doesn't mean the story is bad. Maybe you should've just liked one of the characters that was actually important...


In the end its the fans.... not the editors not Kishi.. just the fans.

i also agreee with you

 

[maxwellwilson02]

This would be the case for most Manga writers as its a very demanding job. I really admire what he and others have done but if they were

allowed more time and freedom i'm sure we would have higher quality.


P.S Please no One Piece hating in this thread as most of the haters don't even give it a try( and are missing out greatly)

 

[The God of Wind]

I've seen all the best animes but not One Piece? That doesn't really make sense, since, well One Piece has way more sales than pretty much every manga out there
Anyway, if you haven't, watch toriko too. Toriko and One Piece are both a lot better than naruto imo

Oh please, sales don't represent the quality of the story. It just means the genre is popular and appealing for more children.

Naruto shouldn't even be read by anyone under 15 or 16, as the topics that it brings to light are of no interest or concern to any child. Most people who do watch it only watch it for the fight scenes anyway.

The underlying principles and meanings in Naruto that make it the best there ever will be are of little concern to the general population.

And yes, I do mean that one piece is for kids.

OP is a pathological fúcktart. Naruto is a masterpiece? It's characterized principally by mediocrity and regurgitated plot devices. How you believe it to be so excellent is beyond me, my good sir. Fággot.​

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Well, if you don't get it, then you probably never will. Naruto is beyond anime and manga.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

OP is a pathological fúcktart. Naruto is a masterpiece? It's characterized principally by mediocrity and regurgitated plot devices. How you believe it to be so excellent is beyond me, my good sir. Fággot.​

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Well, if you don't get it, then you probably never will. Naruto is beyond anime and manga.

Polar opposites, I see.

 

[maxwellwilson02]

Oh please, sales don't represent the quality of the story. It just means the genre is popular and appealing for more children.

Naruto shouldn't even be read by anyone under 15 or 16, as the topics that it brings to light are of no interest or concern to any child. Most people who do watch it only watch it for the fight scenes anyway.

The underlying principles and meanings in Naruto that make it the best there ever will be are of little concern to the general population.

And yes, I do mean that one piece is for kids.



Well, if you don't get it, then you probably never will. Naruto is beyond anime and manga.

LOL One piece is definitely a more complex story than Naruto so to say its for kids and Naruto is not is wow.

 

[The God of Wind]

LOL One piece is definitely a more complex story than Naruto so to say its for kids and Naruto is not is wow.

Right..........pirates with samurai swords and stretchy limbs hunting for treasure against red/white/black beard is soooo complex..........


Brother, you don't even understand the complexities in Naruto. You think I'm just referring to the plot of the story, but that is only the icing on the cake.

 

[maxwellwilson02]

Right..........pirates with samurai swords and stretchy limbs hunting for treasure against red/white/black beard is soooo complex..........


Brother, you don't even understand the complexities in Naruto. You think I'm just referring to the plot of the story, but that is only the icing on the cake.

So is that any different than me saying Naruto is just about a kid who wants to become hokage?

But you know what, I've read Naruto so I know its more than that. Too many people make

comments about One Piece before actually learning about it. I admit I use to be in the same boat

as not too long ago One Piece was not high on my read list but once I actually read it I begin to

see why it's the WSJ top manga. That's all I have to say.

 

[KingHashirama]

Did you read his post? Not once did he say that he thought the manga was bad, he was merely implying that it could be better if Kishi was allowed to do things his way. The OP even said Kishi has the greatest story. And liking characters based off of level of importance? Sounds like a bandwagon fan to me Lol

OT: Completely agree. I feel like Kishi didn't get to develop characters the way he could have or would have liked to. Some things in the manga feel rushed as well so it makes you wonder what if Kishi didn't have any deadlines. Chance are we'd get a better story simply because the author wouldn't have any pressure.

And did you read my post? O_O. Not once did I talk about him......

Yeah, I wish we lived in a world where human beings didn't act like scavenging vultures.

Seriously?! You think retracting your stupidity makes you any less of a moron? Hint: Makes you a bigger one.

Yeah, I don't like those things.

Nope, haven't seen it.

Then I shall wait for the statement that was pointed to you... feel free to post it.

WSJ is the biggest manga publisher in Japan, so I'm guessing Kishi wants to stick with them
One piece is WSJ's main attraction, not Naruto. You can tell by the sales over the past decade.

OT- This doesn't only go for Kishimoto though. Oda (write of One Piece) sleeps 3 hours per day to write his manga, Toryiama (DBZ) once didn't sleep three days to reach his deadline. It's normal for mangakas to work so much

In Japan.. probably. Overall, in the market and games.. Naruto is a bigger franchise.

 

[the narukudo]

one piece = pirates of the carribean (good story ,adventure,...)
naruto=the dark knight (good story , thriller)

 

[XxLotusxX]

Hell yeah, he should be able to take his sweet time with the manga. It is still really good tho.

 

[Vincent Pryce]

Right..........pirates with samurai swords and stretchy limbs hunting for treasure against red/white/black beard is soooo complex..........


Brother, you don't even understand the complexities in Naruto. You think I'm just referring to the plot of the story, but that is only the icing on the cake.

Look, you obviously haven't read/watched OP enough to make such claims. There is a reason why many adults and teenagers enjoy One Piece. I'm suggesting that you should read at least 100 chapters before flaming it. If you still completely hate then you can flame OP you want. Just try it. I'm fairly sure you'll like it.

And pay no attention to Sabaki. He's the biggest douche on the base

 

[Sherlock.]

Right..........pirates with samurai swords and stretchy limbs hunting for treasure against red/white/black beard is soooo complex..........


Brother, you don't even understand the complexities in Naruto. You think I'm just referring to the plot of the story, but that is only the icing on the cake.

I think you shouldn't give opinions about One Piece since you don't know what it is entirely.... From your responses I clearly see that you are a hard core Naruto Fan.... Nothing wrong with that.... But you seem to be one of those people who don't like One Piece simply because people say it's better than your favourite "Masterpiece" Naruto.... You are afraid to watch/to give it a try cause you find it hard to accept that something can be better than you fav "Masterpiece".... I like both series and I'll go ahead and say for me One Piece > Naruto.... But I'm on par with both mangas.... Unlike you who doesn't know anything about One Piece and is throwing out random opinions about something of which he has on knowledge....

 

[the narukudo]

one piece and naruto are both good and epic manga worth the kings title, i mean naruto is my favorite manga and i love it more than i could ever love one piece but that does not mean that one piece is bad ,, holy shit its quite the opposite one piece is epic..but saying that one serie is better than the other is quite stupid..naruto is like watching the dark knight , it is a thriller the plot is compress and events are happening one after another so its always entertaining..one piece is like the pirates of the carribean its more adventerous ,more comedy but the plot is not compressed thats why the characters get more develloped unlike naruto where characters are forced to devellop in fights.

 

[maxwellwilson02]

one piece and naruto are both good and epic manga worth the kings title, i mean naruto is my favorite manga and i love it more than i could ever love one piece but that does not mean that one piece is bad ,, holy shit its quite the opposite one piece is epic..but saying that one serie is better than the other is quite stupid..naruto is like watching the dark knight , it is a thriller the plot is compress and events are happening one after another so its always entertaining..one piece is like the pirates of the carribean its more adventerous ,more comedy but the plot is not compressed thats why the characters get more develloped unlike naruto where characters are forced to devellop in fights.

It's because of this difference in way I find it generally more exciting to read Naruto on a per

chapter basis but One piece on a wider scope. It's just too big to get whats so enjoyable it in

single chapters.

anyways a great amv one of the important themes in one piece. A video to help understand one piece a little more

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[Xerotes]

Naruto manga > one piece manga

One piece anime >>>>>>> Naruto anime

 

[The God of Wind]

I think you shouldn't give opinions about One Piece since you don't know what it is entirely.... From your responses I clearly see that you are a hard core Naruto Fan.... Nothing wrong with that.... But you seem to be one of those people who don't like One Piece simply because people say it's better than your favourite "Masterpiece" Naruto.... You are afraid to watch/to give it a try cause you find it hard to accept that something can be better than you fav "Masterpiece".... I like both series and I'll go ahead and say for me One Piece > Naruto.... But I'm on par with both mangas.... Unlike you who doesn't know anything about One Piece and is throwing out random opinions about something of which he has on knowledge....

I didn't mean to offend any OP fans. What I'm trying to say is, Naruto isn't even like a manga or an anime to me. It just doesn't fall under the same category as any other anime, even DBZ.

You see, in Naruto, the implementation of various philosophical and mythological aspects is done too perfectly. It is an artistic masterpiece.

It isn't really just about how great the story is, the signification of these various elements that I mentioned is just too great, and I cannot stress that enough.

That is why I believe that Naruto is far more complex than any other story ever created.

Many people don't even know what the hell I'm talking about. Like I said, Naruto isn't just about an amazing story.