If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first]

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Hello guys... I would like to talk about Possible abilities, enhancements which could Get Naruto in Tailed beast Sage mode/BSM/ Sage Tailed beast mode..., whatever you call this new mode lol

First, before we can fully guess what STBM/TBSM/BSM power will bring, let elaborate on it's ingredients: TBM and SM separately.

Tailed beast mode Naruto:
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Tailed beast mode enhancements:

- very high speed/flash speed
- great durability
- immense chakra level
- negative emotions sensing
- great strength
- abilities: Tailed beast bomb and it's varriants, Kurama arms, Tailed beast roar(Kurama roar).

Now, SM. Before I list abilites/enhancements which SM gives, I want to explain what Sage mode really is. Sage mode is muliplier of your base state, all it's physical stats: speed, strength, Taijutsu, stamina also spiritual stats: Ninjutsu, Genjutsu. The stronger in base you are then much stronger in SM you will be.

Sage mode Naruto:
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Sage mode enhancements:

- amplified physcial stats: speed, strength, stamina, durability, reflex(reaction time), amount of chakra as well as strength of chakra, Taijutsu
- amplified spiritual stats: Ninjutsu, Genjutsu
- The best sensing skills
- abilities: Frog Katas, Summoning technique, Sage chakra enhanced techniques

Now, let's finally discuss possible enhancements/abilities brought by STBM/TBSM Naruto could have.

STBM/TBSM Naruto:
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Sage Tailed beast mode/ Tailed beast Sage mode/BSM enhancements:

- Godly speed at very close or FTG's level (on par with Juubi Jin Obito...)
- Godly reaction time: sensing skills + negative emotions sensing
- Godly strength
- Godly durability
- Godly chakra amount and chakra strength
- Godly power of Ninjutsu(power of it not varriants...)
- amplified little to noone Naruto's Genjutsu skills
- Godly Taijutsu: Chakra arms + Frog Katas
- Godly chakra control over overhelming amount of chakra
- abilities: Tailed beast bomb amplified by Sage chakra, Tailed beast roar amplified by Sage chakra

I think, that all and it's is just Naruto's Tailed beast mode with Half Kurama... just imagine Full Kurama amplified by Sage chakra... Defnition of OP.

Currently: Naruto's physical chakra + Naruto's spiritual chakra + Kurama's Yang chakra + Nature energy

But in future: Naruto's physical chakra + Naruto's spiritual chakra + Kurama's Yang chakra + Kurama's Ying chakra + Nature energy

Seriously, Full Tailed beast mode(with Full Kurama) amplified by Sage chakra could be on par with full power Current Juubi jinchurki Obito.

Thanks for reading ;)

Feel free to reminds me something If I forgot about something

Share your opinion with me ;), Remember that is just Hypothetical , Kishi can make him even more godly(is that possible) or limit his power and don't let him use all benefits of both modes... unless he introduces time limit as always.

EDIT: I just forgot about The most OP clones which in BSM could be major threat to anyone from bottom top 10 and all weaker guys.
 
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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

By Logic.. Natural energy beat Natural energy. Therefore, Naruto should be weak against Sage attacks as well.

And Hashirama's wood is already a Tailed Beast killer.

You do the math.
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

Mokuton trolls Bijuus and Jins though.
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

Kishi can't screw up
Its his manga
And the last thing we need is more overpoweredness from Naruto
He doesn't need to be godly
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

Swagsuke solos.
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

Hashirama has fought against a far deadlier Kyuubi combination; The Susano'o Kyuubi. Not only that, but Hashirama's mokuton has the unique ability to surpress chakra.

Sage Mode Hashirama defeats current Naruto with an extremely low difficulty.
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

Base Hashirama solo's. Like seriously his whole arsenal is Anti-Bijū.
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

By Logic.. Natural energy beat Natural energy. Therefore, Naruto should be weak against Sage attacks as well.

And Hashirama's wood is already a Tailed Beast killer.

You do the math.

Of course you have point ;), but Hashirama wasn't shown able to absorb nature energy from someone via Wood release... only by himself directly. Besides Tailed beast chakra mixed with Sage chakra could make absorbing beast chakra or just Sage chakra impossible... or very hard to do...

Maybe Naruto has Sage mode mastered better Hashirama... or Hashirama doesn't know special ways/combos which uses SM instead only power up his techniques.... but who knows...
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

By Logic.. Natural energy beat Natural energy. Therefore, Naruto should be weak against Sage attacks as well.

And Hashirama's wood is already a Tailed Beast killer.

You do the math.

someone be hateing
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

I agree with everything except BSM Naruto's speed being on par with Obito's. It's not. He's on par with Hashirama power wise at this point if not stronger. I don't think he's surpassed Hashirama quite yet, but he's close. Those who say "Base Hashirama solo" you mad?
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

Naruto is a beast
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

Bsm Naruto is hax. Sage mode by itself is dangerous when you take into account of it's advantages and how it awakens the user's body. Along with Bm.. Oh lawd.
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

The fools in this thread believing Naruto could even stand up to a Sage Mode Hashirama. Shin Sūsenju demolishes the Kyuubi cloak with but a touch. Sage Mode Naruto is not capable of even standing up to Hashirama.

It's not a contest.
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

I agree with everything except BSM Naruto's speed being on par with Obito's. It's not. He's on par with Hashirama power wise at this point if not stronger. I don't think he's surpassed Hashirama quite yet, but he's close. Those who say "Base Hashirama solo" you mad?

^^ True, but that I say HYPOTHETICAL TBSM/STBM Naruto... IN MANGA Kishi can make him much weaker actually or stronger. This thread only shows that from logical point of view what HYPOTHETICAL Perfect combination of both modes can bring on.

Naruto is a beast

^^ True :cool:
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

Since when is Obito's foot speed above BM Naruto's. He's never done anything to directly compare to Naruto's bm speed, like outspeeding Naruto when he's at his to speed.
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

The fools in this thread believing Naruto could even stand up to a Sage Mode Hashirama. Shin Sūsenju demolishes the Kyuubi cloak with but a touch. Sage Mode Naruto is not capable of even standing up to Hashirama.

It's not a contest.

bo you forget naruto can turn wood style back into trees bro
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

The fools in this thread believing Naruto could even stand up to a Sage Mode Hashirama. Shin Sūsenju demolishes the Kyuubi cloak with but a touch. Sage Mode Naruto is not capable of even standing up to Hashirama.

It's not a contest.

^^ True, just Sage mode Naruto is nowhere close even to Base Hashirama...

Tailed beast mode Naruto is on par with Base Hashirama, whether you agree or no...

However HYPOTHETICAL TBSM/STBM/SBM is AT LEAST ON PAR with SAGE MODE HASHIRAMA, So you are right my friend with you post ;)

By HYPOTHETICAL I mean: Perfect combination of both modes ;)

Since when is Obito's foot speed above BM Naruto's. He's never done anything to directly compare to Naruto's bm speed, like outspeeding Naruto when he's at his to speed.

Well thought that this is common opinion that Juubi Jin Obito > Naruto BM also in speed...

but this is true... Obito still didn't show Speed faster Naruto at his max... maybe on par with Naruto but not greater.

Thanks for pointing out this fact for me ;)
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

Although BSM is amazing from what we've seen so far I think Hashirama is still the superior.
 

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

Although BSM is amazing from what we've seen so far I think Hashirama is still the superior.

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Re: If Kishi doesn't screw up then Hypothetical BSM Naruto > SM Hashirama [read first

The fools in this thread believing Naruto could even stand up to a Sage Mode Hashirama. Shin Sūsenju demolishes the Kyuubi cloak with but a touch. Sage Mode Naruto is not capable of even standing up to Hashirama.

It's not a contest.

You're joking right? Half of this would certainly make a valley if it hit the ground.


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Half of this>= Hashirama's statue, and this is BM alone. BSM is dramatically more powerful. The only reason Hashirama has potential to win is wood style's effect on bijus. Power wise, Naruto>=Hashirama.
 
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