If it's true that you need tsb to be in rsm

[TimothyTheTomato]

People trying to make up new forms but I'm wrong when I'm saying He's using something he already has shown

 

[Kurama Uchiha]

Rikidou means six paths.
So basically he was already in rsm..
Cause it's rikudou enhanced sage mode..
Just like the form he showed today

First your logic means that Naruto here is BSM correct?

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[BenjerminGaye]

Rsm mode is based of the Matanagma on the back. Not his eyes. No other rikudo sage user has box eyes so as a result it can't be used to define when he's in Rsm mode.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Rikidou means six paths.
So basically he was already in rsm..
Cause it's rikudou enhanced sage mode..
Just like the form he showed today

Yup Rikudou other term/designation is Six Path.

Rikudou Sennin or Sage of Six Path.

RSM long name is Rikudou Sage Mode. But can be Rikudou Senjutsu Mode.

But Senjutsu Mode that we knew is Toad, Snake and Hashirama's Sage Mode.

RS long name is Rikudou Senjutsu. Rikudou Senjutsu never had any support Modes because its just Senjutsu chakra with Six Path elements.

But only Hagoromo chakra and Juubi chakra contained this power. Without activating Hagoromo's Senjutsu power, Naruto cant access Six Path Senjutsu that gave him TSB and flight ability.

But with just Six Path chakra, Naruto still can use it to enhanced his Sage Mode ability to another level.

 

[SenseiSama]

There's no such thing as BSM v2. That's RSM, the Databook even says so.

Ok, so you're telling me his cloak activated the TSB ? Then that means he should be 100% capable of making TSB himself

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Than what the hell was Naruto using here

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The only way you can Dodge limbo is to be rsm or have rinnegan.
Y'all say Naruto wasn't in rsm because his body resembled bm
Well I guess Naruto fought Madara in base sm if we use that logic cause his body looks so similar to base derp derp!
Rsm is indicated by the absence of eye shadow in sage mode
If it was from mastery than Why the hell was he in sm with eye shadow in the last and chapter 3
And if it was a drawing mistake then Why was it drawn for 2-3 pages
The eyes tell the form not the body
Otherwise Naruto was fighting Madara in less than rsm which is absurd when you need it to Dodge limbo.


How can people ignore manga facts this blatant.
The body look argument is irrelevant as Naruto can access this power even without changing his look drastically like he did initially against Madara.
It could just be possible that kuramas chakra dominates the others in amount (not quality) so Kishi has to adjust the design according to how much power He's using. But there should be No doubt He's using rikudou power when his eye shadow is absent and He's in sage mode

actually to dodge limbo you need the rinnnegan to see it or six paths' senjutsu which Naruto has and doesn't need to go into sage mode with, (or just get lucky by blindly dodging).

actually that form is SM but enhanced by kurama's influence, hence the slits that you see in his eyes.'

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According to this color scan and

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the wiki, RSM is identified by the coloration of Naruto's eyes, while in RSM Naruto's eyes are Yellow as opposes to the orange/red and pigmentation of the nine tails chakra mode. in the last naruto used Nine Tails chakra modehttp://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_Mode?file=Naruto_Chakra_Mode_the_Last.png as seen in the wiki . The misconception people make is that Naruto HAS to have the cloak to show he's in RSM which isn't exactly true the cloak is just Kurama's touch on it (along with and possibly with the other tail beast chakra that Naruto had but lost as Kurama said Naruto was running out/lost the tail beast chakra hence why he doesn't have the TSB but he can reobtain the TSB by contacting the tail beast for some chakra). There's a difference between RSM and regular sage mode, Naruto acquired the sage's senjutsu so idk why he needs a mode to use RSM that's like saying Sasuke needs to use susano to prove that he has the rinnegan.
also in the latest chapter page

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Naruto doesn't have pigmentation here either people say the lines are too dark yet in the wiki picture they are just the same.

also naruto's eyes are not embedded in a cloak so naruto in gaiden used RSM.

as for the scan, naruto can manipulate when to and not to use the cloak as that's just an extra touch by the kyuubi, remember RSM is just a heightened form of sage mode, that doesn't mean Naruto can't use regular sage mode just like how sasuke can just use regular 3 tomoe and doesn't HAVE to use EMS. I hope this answers your question.

 

[SenseiSama]

To hell with your stupid form ordering you didn't contradict. If the eye shadowless sage features dont mean rsm than than what the hell was Naruto using against Madara

Show me scans of RSM without TSB ? Thought so.

 

[To Whatever]

Naruto Currently has two forms of Sage Mode.

Toad Sage Mode and Rikudo Sage Mode .



Here are the Variants he's shown:

Toad Sage Mode:

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Kyuubi Toad Sage Mode:

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BTSM (Bijuu Mode + Toad Sage Mode a.k.a BSM):

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Rikudo Sage Mode:

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Rikudo Bijuu Sage Mode All 9 - (With all 9 Bijuu the mode he used against Kaguya/Sasuke/Madara)

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Rikudo Bijuu Sage Mode - Kurama (Same as BTSM but with RSM instead of TSM)


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This may just be KCM + RSM

It all depends on if his face isn't covered in chakra. Or if someone can identity the marking differences.

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There's also the BTSM
(Bijuu Toad Sage Mode) he used in the movie:

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[Gagster]

Ok, so you're telling me his cloak activated the TSB ? Then that means he should be 100% capable of making TSB himself

No, I'm telling you the thing you said is Not RSM is clearly defined as RSM (With a picture) in the databook.

 

[To Whatever]

No, I'm telling you the thing you said is Not RSM is clearly defined as RSM (With a picture) in the databook.

The databook shows Base Naruto (Using RSM) kicking a TSB back at Madara.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Naruto Currently has two forms of Sage Mode.

Toad Sage Mode and Rikudo Sage Mode .



Here are the Variants he's shown:

Toad Sage Mode:

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Kyuubi Toad Sage Mode:

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BTSM (Bijuu Mode + Toad Sage Mode a.k.a BSM):

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Rikudo Sage Mode:

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Rikudo Bijuu Sage Mode All 9 - (With all 9 Bijuu the mode he used against Kaguya/Sasuke/Madara)

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Rikudo Bijuu Sage Mode - Kurama (Same as BTSM but with RSM instead of TSM)


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This may just be KCM + RSM

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That's actually just tail beast sage mode not BTSM (fanfic btw), but most of these is correct, the main difference between Rikoudo sage mode and regula and kyuubi sage mode is the lack of pigmentation and Naruto's eyes being yellow as opposed to red/orange. But RSM and RBSM may in fact be correct just like how Naruto can use Kurama's chakra without the cloak. However; the one Naruto used in the current manga is RSM, RSM+KCM makes no sense when he's ALREADY using Kyuubi's chakra while in RSM. RSM+KCM is a fanmade assumption of the latest form due to lack of TSB and rinnegan drawing when BSM in the 4th war naruto had a cloak but in the last it's the same thing BUT Naruto adjusted it. naruto can adjust his cloak if he so desires. but the cloak seems to only match up with what he is currently wearing such as in the last it was just on the shirt, in the war his vest jacket turned into a vest for the cloak, and in the current chapter his hokage cape was uses as a catalyst for the arms.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

The databook shows Base Naruto (Using RSM) kicking a TSB back at Madara.

You are correct that is RSM due to his yellow eyes and the aforementioned post of pictures, if his eyes are not yellow and has pigmentation it is not RSM

 

[SenseiSama]

No, I'm telling you the thing you said is Not RSM is clearly defined as RSM (With a picture) in the databook.

Ok, so from what I understand, there's RSM with Ashura's chakra and RSM with Hagoromo's ? Because TSB are clearly not activated in his first version, but they were with Madara, Obito, Hago and Hamura who all had RSM chakra.

 

[To Whatever]

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That's actually just tail beast sage mode not BTSM (fanfic btw), but most of these is correct, the main difference between Rikoudo sage mode and regula and kyuubi sage mode is the lack of pigmentation and Naruto's eyes being yellow as opposed to red/orange. But RSM and RBSM may in fact be correct just like how Naruto can use Kurama's chakra without the cloak. However; the one Naruto used in the current manga is RSM, RSM+KCM makes no sense when he's ALREADY using Kyuubi's chakra while in RSM. RSM+KCM is a fanmade assumption of the latest form due to lack of TSB and rinnegan drawing when BSM in the 4th war naruto had a cloak but in the last it's the same thing BUT Naruto adjusted it. naruto can adjust his cloak if he so desires. but the cloak seems to only match up with what he is currently wearing such as in the last it was just on the shirt, in the war his vest jacket turned into a vest for the cloak, and in the current chapter his hokage cape was uses as a catalyst for the arms.

BTSM is BSM but more specified that he's using Toad Sage Senjutsu rather than his other Sage Mode.

From the wiki:

Naruto and Minato have yellow, toad-like irides with orange pigmentation around their eyes.

Kabuto Yakushi has yellow, snake-like irides with purple pigmentation around his eyes that extends to his shoulder blades. His snake-like characteristics progressed further in Sage Mode with him growing four horns, leading him to state that metaphorically he had transcended from a "snake" to a "dragon".

Hashirama has yellow irides with red (black in the anime) pigmentation around his eyes that extends to his ears. He also has a marking on his forehead that resemble an eye


There's: Toad Sage Mode, Snake/Dragon Sage Mode, and Wood Sage Mode. Then there's Rikudo Sage Mode.

 

[KidGamer65]

Rsm mode is based of the Matanagma on the back. Not his eyes. No other rikudo sage user has box eyes so as a result it can't be used to define when he's in Rsm mode.

It probably has something to do with the little fact that nobody except Naruto has Rikudo Sage Mode. Lmao. RSM is identified through the lack of pigmentation. No other Sage Mode lacks pigmentation except for Naruto's RSM.

No other Rikudo Senjutsu user has those eyes because no other Rikudo Senjutsu user uses a bonafide Sage Mode. They only use Senjutsu.

 

[SatanicGod]

To hell with your stupid form ordering you didn't contradict. If the eye shadowless sage features dont mean rsm than than what the hell was Naruto using against Madara

Fine RSM cloak requires TSB then. Happy?

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Ok, so from what I understand, there's RSM with Ashura's chakra and RSM with Hagoromo's ? Because TSB are clearly not activated in his first version, but they were with Madara, Obito, Hago and Hamura who all had RSM chakra.

This is false, RSM by definition belongs to Hagoromo. Six paths Ten Tails coffin seal (which Madara and Obito had) is NOT the same as what naruto and Sasuke obtained. otherwise Obito should have an enhanced rinnegan the moment the juubi was sealed inside him and Madara got the rinne sharnningan. Which Obito couldn't get as he didn't have both rinnegan (nor was he Kaguya).

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also In order to make the truth seeking ball one needs six paths senjutsu (which only Naruto and Hagoromo had) and it's been classified that Kaguya, Hamura, and Toneri didn't have six paths senjutsu so this leads to the fact when one has mastery over all the elements (plus yin-yang release) with a massive amount of chakra and skill in shape transformation, one can ultimately make a TSB. TSB are not from Bijuu exclusively but from when one has six paths senjutsu or what I said in the latter. Also Naruto's RSM was above what Madara had as Naruto was able to outmatch Madara in strength and he even was able to dent Kaguya whom had a much more Dense and multiple times more massive of chakra than Madara even though she did not have six paths senjutsu.

 

[To Whatever]

Unless you can show me a manga scan or an official drawing from Kishi not all those fanmade drawing interpretation then I'll believe you. As Wiki only uses official drawings or made. ALSO Kabuto did NOT have YELLOW EYES, even in the anime he did NOT have yellow eyes. not like RSM Naruto as in the wiki. Naruto's eyes were Orange, and so were Minato, fanmade drawing depict him as yellow yet official manga scans show it as Orange and I'm pretty sure manga scans>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fanmade pictures. ONLY Naruto while in RSM has yellow sage mode eyes. and unless you can show me a non-fanmade and official drawing or picture that shows Minato, Kabuto, Hashirama does not have yellow irides.....................Please show me where Hashi has yellow irides....Only Naruto has yellow eyes and that's ONLY for RSM. Show me official non-fanmade drawings that say otherwise.

Look at the spoilers. Those are nothing but colored panels from the chapters. (Not talking about the Hashirama ones, the previews posts on his Sage mode variants)



Not to mention that RSM is his official coloring

The point being that the Pupil and pigmentation are different for each type of Sage Mode. None are the same.

RSM and TSM are different.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Look at the spoilers. Those are nothing but colored panels from the chapters.

Not to mention that RSM is his official coloring

The point being that the Pupil and pigmentation are different for each type of Sage Mode.

In that case yes that's true, but only RSM has a lack of pigment and I saw in the sage mode wiki i thought you were saying that the other sage mode users have yellow eyes, my bad for the false assumption. But the eyes are usually at least according to drawings and the wiki. The undeniable truth however; is that ALL sgae mode users have Pigmentation EXCEPT RSM so that point still stands regardless. also every sage mode has yellow iris' just a different pigmentation actually as the wiki states them to all have the same color of eyes just different pigmentation while RSM has no pigmentation.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

It probably has something to do with the little fact that nobody except Naruto has Rikudo Sage Mode. Lmao. RSM is identified through the lack of pigmentation. No other Sage Mode lacks pigmentation except for Naruto's RSM.

No other Rikudo Senjutsu user has those eyes because no other Rikudo Senjutsu user uses a bonafide Sage Mode. They only use Senjutsu.

Madara would have it via hashirama's sage mode. What r u talking about.