If it's true that you need tsb to be in rsm

KidGamer65

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Madara would have it via hashirama's sage mode. What r u talking about.

Uh, no, he wouldn't. Did you see him with Hashirama's Sage Powers after he became the Jin? Obviously not. It was completely replaced with Six Paths Coffin Seal power, that's why he lacks Hashirama's Sage Mode after losing the Juubi. He himself was never really in Sage Mode to begin with, he was only accessing the power via the hashiboob, so he can't get Six Paths Sage Mode by getting the Juubi.
 

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This is false, RSM by definition belongs to Hagoromo. Six paths Ten Tails coffin seal (which Madara and Obito had) is NOT the same as what naruto and Sasuke obtained. otherwise Obito should have an enhanced rinnegan the moment the juubi was sealed inside him and Madara got the rinne sharnningan. Which Obito couldn't get as he didn't have both rinnegan (nor was he Kaguya). also In order to make the truth seeking ball one needs six paths senjutsu (which only Naruto and Hagoromo had) and it's been classified that Kaguya, Hamura, and Toneri didn't have six paths senjutsu so this leads to the fact when one has mastery over all the elements (plus yin-yang release) with a massive amount of chakra and skill in shape transformation, one can ultimately make a TSB. TSB are not from Bijuu exclusively but from when one has six paths senjutsu or what I said in the latter. Also Naruto's RSM was above what Madara had as Naruto was able to outmatch Madara in strength and he even was able to dent Kaguya whom had a much more Dense and multiple times more massive of chakra than Madara even though she did not have six paths senjutsu.

Ok thanks, I was assuming that too, so Naruto can definitely make his own TSB with enough experience since they're basically the same as bijuudama and Rasengan, I think all he has to do is learn how to balance all the element like he balanced positive and negative energy for the TBB
 

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Thats what I was arguing against.
Saying he doesn't need tsb to be in rsm cause he did it against Madara and Shin

Against Madara it was RSM (no cloak)

We have literally no info on what he did with Shin... And I am going with it was a mode that had more to do with Kyubi than Rikudo... I don't want to believe that he would use something Rikudo related to take care of a kid when clearly he could've used Kyubi chakra to get the same results
 

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No you don't. Naruto only has 2 sage modes, Rikodou and toad, and one has a feature that's always shown, even in gaiden.
 

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Typical naruto fan logic: calling 2 different modes RSM without elaborating the difference between them just to prove that their fav went RSM (as in using the strongest power in his arsenal) against some kid :sdo:

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It isn't a fully formed RSM but only has traits of it it's BSM/RSM Trait mode. Get yo eyes checked into your local doctor.
 

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Against Madara it was RSM (no cloak)

We have literally no info on what he did with Shin... And I am going with it was a mode that had more to do with Kyubi than Rikudo... I don't want to believe that he would use something Rikudo related to take care of a kid when clearly he could've used Kyubi chakra to get the same results

Against shin it was rsm with No balls.
The eyes tell it all.
The eye shadow doesn't dissappear from senjutsu prowess just rikudou power cause in chapter three he had eye shadow.

Kishi did it to show the dumbasses he still has it
 
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