If Itachi didn't act cool and calm

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All characters with powerful jutsu are overrated. Nagato, Madara, Hashirama, Minato, etc.
 

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Fans overrate him cause of his intelligence and his personality, mostly intelligence, all you hear them say when they have no real argument is "Itachi beats so and so with his intelligence.

This is bullspit. If Itachi's jutsu land, then they kill. Their ability to land depends on deception in battle. Deception in battle depends on intelligence.
 

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This is bullspit. If Itachi's jutsu land, then they kill. Their ability to land depends on deception in battle. Deception in battle depends on intelligence.

I don't recall Itachi ever killing someone with his jutsu. He sealed nagato because nagato can't move due to his leg injuries and orochimaru was a big target and didn't even try to dodge the sword. His amaterasu and tsykyomi never killed anyone. Hidan killed Asuma, so does that make him smarter?

Deidara was able to defeat gaara....does that make him smarter?

Guy defeated Kisame.

young naruto defeated haku.

....the list goes on

Intelligence isn't everything.
 
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I don't recall Itachi ever killing someone with his jutsu.

The vast majority of Itachi's shown battles were a facade in which he was holding back. He's never gone all-out.

He sealed nagato because nagato can't move due to his leg injuries

Then how did Nagato blitz Killer Bee (who had outmaneuvered Sasuke) shortly before?

Intelligence isn't everything.

If all Itachi had was intelligence, he wouldn't be in the top 10.

It's top-tier intelligence combined with half a dozen top-tier jutsu and top-tier skill.
 

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I don't recall Itachi ever killing someone with his jutsu. He sealed nagato because nagato can't move due to his leg injuries and orochimaru was a big target and didn't even try to dodge the sword. His amaterasu and tsykyomi never killed anyone. Hidan killed Asuma, so does that make him smarter?

Deidara was able to defeat gaara....does that make him smarter?

Guy defeated Kisame.

young naruto defeated haku.

....the list goes on

Intelligence isn't everything.

you do realise how dumb you sound right...anyway its how he beats ppl without trying he's never even been hit in the series without letting it happen, have u realized that...he pawns oro with 3 tomes and oro was a hokage candidate at the time....he pawns kakashi ( who even states that itachi could have killed him if he wanted to)...he pawned deidara who ppl say is zoo good, kisame said itachi was better, he punks danzo, he punks tobi, he could have killed sasuke in tsukyomi (tobi even said sasuke didnt see through anything), destoyed kurenai using genjutsu ( which is her specialty)... could have amateretsued jiraiya in the back of the head while him and naruto were walking....sealed pain while saving naruto and sasuke (also blind him with plain shuriken..i call that intelligence, also figuired out how to stop ct) ...bodybagged kabuto easily....WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT
 

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The vast majority of Itachi's shown battles were a facade in which he was holding back. He's never gone all-out.



Then how did Nagato blitz Killer Bee (who had outmaneuvered Sasuke) shortly before?



If all Itachi had was intelligence, he wouldn't be in the top 10.

It's top-tier intelligence combined with half a dozen top-tier jutsu and top-tier skill.

Nagato is both smarter and stronger than killer bee if you ask me...so I don't see your point

and I'm not denying Itachi isn't in top 10.....I'm denying the godly intelligence and supposed capabilities of the character that every fanboy seems to implore. All the excuses are his intelligence leads him to victory against any character if he had full health. And that his Totsuka blade defeats everyone also.

NO! Even going back to something like the Kabuto fight. Without Izanami(a deus ex if you ask me) and being an edo, he wouldn't have won. Kabuto's reflex's are superior to his since he could even dodge Sasuke Susanoo arrow....and that is a lot faster than the Totsuka blade.

Amaterasu, he could shed his skin just like Sasuke did. And he overall would have beaten Itachi if he weren't an edo since he would need to replicate both A movements for Izanami to work and that would cost his life just about. Saying he's not going all out in that battle doesn't mean he would lower his defense at all, or any character for that matter. Kabuto wasn't going all out either since he didn't mean to kill sasuke and tried to capture them both.

Also with Jiraiya. I doubt Itachi would win since jiraiya has a variety of sealing techs, offensive and sound genjutsu which Itachi would uncountably counter, seeing as though he was caught in Kabuto's sound genjutsu.

Itachi would probably go 50/50 with kisame, considering he has widespread area techs like engulfing one with water. I surely doubt that susanoo could protect Itachi from drowning nor can he. Kisame has been seen to be fast enough to dodge a majority of attacks, making Totsuka blade not very effective.

Obito, minato, nagato with healed legs, etc. His intelligence would not be able to defeat them all 1v1 100% of the time as people claim. Sure he most definitely could win against them, but not consecutively or anything close to being called ownage.
 

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you said what if .... But itachi iscalm and collected so a what if is irrelevant
 

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you do realise how dumb you sound right...anyway its how he beats ppl without trying he's never even been hit in the series without letting it happen, have u realized that...he pawns oro with 3 tomes and oro was a hokage candidate at the time....he pawns kakashi ( who even states that itachi could have killed him if he wanted to)...he pawned deidara who ppl say is zoo good, kisame said itachi was better, he punks danzo, he punks tobi, he could have killed sasuke in tsukyomi (tobi even said sasuke didnt see through anything), destoyed kurenai using genjutsu ( which is her specialty)... could have amateretsued jiraiya in the back of the head while him and naruto were walking....sealed pain while saving naruto and sasuke (also blind him with plain shuriken..i call that intelligence, also figuired out how to stop ct) ...bodybagged kabuto easily....WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT

Could've, should've, would've. I don't doubt he can win a majority of fights, but not to the extent that people claim and not as easily. He is top ten, but that doesn't mean he can win against every other top 10 character consecutively or even at all. I think you misunderstand when I say overrated.

Minato is overrated for his ftg and godly instincts from 2 battles.

Itachi is overrated for his intelligence and power because we never seen him go "all out". Well deidara never went all out as an edo either, but we know what he's capable of. We know what Itachi can do, but people act like he can even do more....and that's where I say no he can't.

And if you think that sounds stupid, then that just means you're just backing Itachi up because of biased opinion.
 

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you said what if .... But itachi iscalm and collected so a what if is irrelevant

Yeah I'm saying what if, meaning if he acted like a fool but still did the same exact feats.....would people still overrate him and his intelligence.
 

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This is bullspit. If Itachi's jutsu land, then they kill. Their ability to land depends on deception in battle. Deception in battle depends on intelligence.

No it's not, I have seen many fools claim his intelligence wins and provide no other support for their argument.

Someone can't just say "he is smarter than him so he wins" that is retarded.
 

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As long as people keep making threads of Itachi being weak and shit and pathetic and blablabla they're just making a fool out of themselves even saying how jealous they are and ADMITTING that Itachi really is godlike because they're just making threads trying to get the NarutoBase behind them to shit on Itachi.

Itachi is cool and calm because he knows that he owns the shit out of his opponent anyway. He does praise his opponents when they do something that Itachi likes but that still doesn't mean that Itachi should be aware or scared then. Itachi trusts his power and strength and knows/believes that he can defeat his opponent unlike many other characters and that's what makes Itachi so dangerous.
 

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As long as people keep making threads of Itachi being weak and shit and pathetic and blablabla they're just making a fool out of themselves even saying how jealous they are and ADMITTING that Itachi really is godlike because they're just making threads trying to get the NarutoBase behind them to shit on Itachi.

Itachi is cool and calm because he knows that he owns the shit out of his opponent anyway. He does praise his opponents when they do something that Itachi likes but that still doesn't mean that Itachi should be aware or scared then. Itachi trusts his power and strength and knows/believes that he can defeat his opponent unlike many other characters and that's what makes Itachi so dangerous.

Learn to read. OP never shat on Itachi. He said Itachi is top 10 but people overrate him beyond that. How is that shitting on Itachi?

Oh, unless you're a fanboy to SUCH an extent that unless somebody states Itachi is top 1, it means they're shitting on him. :rolleyes:

Itachi's bias is ridiculous. The two most common arguments of the fanboys are:
-Totsuka, gg
-Intelligence.


And for people who claim he never went all out - he did, against Nagato - not only that, he went MORE than all out because he was immortal and had unlimited chakra - and still would have been pwned badly if it wasn't for two jinchuurikis, one of which is much stronger than Itachi.
 

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Learn to read. OP never shat on Itachi. He said Itachi is top 10 but people overrate him beyond that. How is that shitting on Itachi?

Oh, unless you're a fanboy to SUCH an extent that unless somebody states Itachi is top 1, it means they're shitting on him. :rolleyes:

Itachi's bias is ridiculous. The two most common arguments of the fanboys are:
-Totsuka, gg
-Intelligence.


And for people who claim he never went all out - he did, against Nagato - not only that, he went MORE than all out because he was immortal and had unlimited chakra - and still would have been pwned badly if it wasn't for two jinchuurikis, one of which is much stronger than Itachi.

Are you going to hunt down everything i say? Do you fan me that much? God another fan for me how lucky!

The only so called ''fanboys'' of yours who come up with DECENT statements why someone is stronger/better whatever you want to call it than an other character are Itachi fans. There are more things than just Intelligence and Totsuka that people come up with when they're defending Itachi's uber reputation.]

Your last statement alone says enough lol. If it wasn't for Itachi, Bee and Naruto would have been ****ed because they didn't evne know what to do against Nagato's jutsu that absorbs things. Itachi was the one who told them what to do. Btw who was the one who sealed Nagato? Itachi right? Don't come up with bullshit like: he couldn't move he was too old and all that shit. Itachi sealed Nagato end of story. Itachi owned Kabuto since Izanami was already being actived in the very beginning. And i do not agree with you that Itachi went full out, yes he showed more of his Sasuno'o but that's about it.
 
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Are you going to hunt down everything i say? Do you fan me that much? God another fan for me how lucky!

The only so called ''fanboys'' of yours who come up with DECENT statements why someone is stronger/better whatever you want to call it than an other character are Itachi fans. There are more things than just Intelligence and Totsuka that people come up with when they're defending Itachi's uber reputation.]

Your last statement alone says enough lol. If it wasn't for Itachi, Bee and Naruto would have been ****ed because they didn't evne know what to do against Nagato's jutsu that absorbs things. Itachi was the one who told them what to do. Btw who was the one who sealed Nagato? Itachi right? Don't come up with bullshit like: he couldn't move he was too old and all that shit. Itachi sealed Nagato end of story. Itachi owned Kabuto since Izanami was already being actived in the very beginning. And i do not agree with you that Itachi went full out, yes he showed more of his Sasuno'o but that's about it.

I never stated Naruto and Bee would have won against Nagato without Itachi.
But if X cannot defeat Y without the help of Z, it doesn't mean that Z can defeat Y without the help of X.
In other words, Naruto and Bee would not be able to deal with Nagato alone, but Itachi would not be able either.

Itachi sealed Nagato, so what? It doesn't mean he gets the full credit for defeating him. If that was the case, then I guess Kakashi who finished off Kakuzu with Raikiri should claim all the credit for defeating him, too. :rolleyes:

If Naruto and Bee weren't there, Itachi would be pulverized by Chibaku Tensei. Gosh, it's so obvious, why am I even discussing this? :|

And I'm glad you put me on your list. After tens of users point out your flawed logic and you add all of them on this list, maybe it will make you realize how wrong you are. U_U Cheers!
 
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Because you fan me.
 

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You are dumb if you didnt see how intelligense he is. Last two fights he won because of intelligense if you can see that that means you just a hater tryng prove nothing here.
 

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You are dumb if you didnt see how intelligense he is. Last two fights he won because of intelligense if you can see that that means you just a hater tryng prove nothing here.

Do people really not read.....I never said he was dumb, he's indeed intelligent; but people just overrate his intelligence saying he can win virtually every battle because he is apparently "smarter" with not much evidence to go on, aside for saying people called him a genius -_- and oh but just look at how he's so analytical in fights saying every jutsu has a weakness.

....oh? well Naruto analyizes and outsmarts his opponents who are of higher degree than him in virtually every battle he's ever been in.....but people don't overrate his intelligence or even call him a genius. People go on to say something stupid like Itachi can beat MS Madara, Obito, Nagato, Jiraiya 100% because he can outsmart them all. Well that's when the line is crossed.

.....seriously ****in fanboys "flips a table"
 

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Do people really not read.....I never said he was dumb, he's indeed intelligent; but people just overrate his intelligence saying he can win virtually every battle because he is apparently "smarter" with not much evidence to go on, aside for saying people called him a genius -_- and oh but just look at how he's so analytical in fights saying every jutsu has a weakness.

....oh? well Naruto analyizes and outsmarts his opponents who are of higher degree than him in virtually every battle he's ever been in.....but people don't overrate his intelligence or even call him a genius. People go on to say something stupid like Itachi can beat MS Madara, Obito, Nagato, Jiraiya 100% because he can outsmart them all. Well that's when the line is crossed.

.....seriously ****in fanboys "flips a table"

Have you even payed attention to Itachi's battles? People call him a genius because many well respected characters in Naruto called him a genius.

You're obviously very very mad lol i just love it! how does it feel to be riding Itachi's trolldick lol

Just deal with it Itachi owns.
 

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Have you even payed attention to Itachi's battles? People call him a genius because many well respected characters in Naruto called him a genius.

You're obviously very very mad lol i just love it! how does it feel to be riding Itachi's trolldick lol

Just deal with it Itachi owns.

Lol Rock Lee was called a genius.....I guess that means he's smarter than Itachi and the rest of the narutoverse huh?

Me riding Itachi's trolldick? Wow you're funny, since you have his quote as your sig and blindly fight his superiority to every other character. I say something reasonable, and you flame me for it. Itachi was my fav character until shits like you started diminishing his reputation.

I still think Itachi is top 10 but by no means do I believe he can easily defeat any of the other top 10, or at all for that matter. You're just obsessive and can't seem to face reality.....Ironic huh, because that's exactly what Itachi said to Kabuto.
 

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How is coming up for his reputation against kids like you diminishing it? HAHAHA.

You're so mad. TROLOLOLO!
 
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