If Itachi Choose to Defer Danzo | Naruto Shippuden 339

[Shalev]

yet it didnt know two people slaughtering them in the night?:| this is 3t sharingan we're talking about its great but it aint that great

I know right, that's a very good point!

Masashi used plot no jutsu on that one.

Obito probably spammed his teleportation jutsu like there's no tomorrow?

 

[VangBro95]

Itachi wouldn't have MS since he awoken it from the massacre.

Itachi had his MS before the massacre?

 

[FreakensteinAG]

...but the sharingan is op

an anbu agent wouldn't be able to escape, the sharingan is very keen if someone is spying or monitoring ones movement.

As someone else already explained, few people within the clan had awakened the sharingan.

Even if they had the sharingan awakened, this only helps them track their movements. Even if you see the movements, you still have to contract your skeletal muscle to avoid taijutsu and ninjutsu. So if you can't react to it, you're done for.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

yet it didnt know two people slaughtering them in the night?:| this is 3t sharingan we're talking about its great but it aint that great

To be fair most were asleep.

 

[VangBro95]

yet it didnt know two people slaughtering them in the night?:| this is 3t sharingan we're talking about its great but it aint that great

Well, is someone snuck into your house in the middle of the house and slit your throat quietly nobody would know until they come check up on you.

 

[Itachi75]

itachi without MS and 50 uchiha warrior, vs all of root, anbu, the three sannin, the hokage, and the entire army of shinobi.
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I mean the uchiha would definetly put up a fight and take a bunch of people with him, but that would be everything.

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

lol, Uchiha still get massacred- who knows obito might have gone ahead and killed them all anyways.
-all of root+hiruzen+danzo+all the clans+ jiraiya =dead uchiha
However thats just in terms of manpower.... IF the Uchiha tried to defect to another village they probably could mid diff...

 

[FearxDeath]

If Itachi would have sided with the Uchiha clan, would the ninjas of the the Hidden Leaf, could they have truly stop the Uchiha Clan? [I mean, who could stop Itachi from within the Hidden Leaf?]
[Danzo's brainwashing is very effective! =D]

First off, you overestimate the Uchiha Village as a whole. Their Offensive power was fairly weak. Few of them manage to awaken their Sharingan not to mention getting 3 Tomie. They were the villages peace keeping force but the village itself had Ninja's whos skills had been honed in battles and on missions.

All in all without Itachi it would have been very difficult for the Uchiha to defeat the Village, which is why they didnt flat out rebel, but where planning a coup detat. Which is more like killing the king and making yourself the new king as oppose to defeating the kings army and establishing a new empire.

Now with Itachi things get more interesting but keep in mind that he is sick and fairly blind. I think Hiruzen with the help of any other high level jounin from the village would have been able to deal with Itachi. Lets not forget that Itachi and Kisame retreated from a fight with Gai, Kakashi, and Asuma. Take this as a lesson that Itachi is aware of his own limitations even though you may not recognize them.

 

[Twisted007]

Okay i'm not an uchiha fan but you guys are underestimating them. If the village and the uchiha's would fight than it would have been a even battle. Neither sides would be a winner or loser. Thats why Danzo wanted a sneak attack. Had they fought in a open battle than the war would have reached the Fire country and giving other villages enough time to attack Konoha/Fire country.

I read so many misconceptions in this thread that its making me wonder wtf u guys were reading

- Itachi had MS before the massacre and wasn't sick or blind
- Danzo had only Shinsui eye
- The uchiha clan had enough member with the sharingan or els Obito wouldn't be viewed as a weak child. Also the 3 guys Itachi beat up with basic taijutsu had sharingans. If flodders like them have it than the clan had to have other folks with the sharingan.

Had Itachi sides with his clan than i'm sure that the Uchiha's would win the war because unlike Konoha they could get allies. Itachi could have convinced Obito to attack the village for his revenge or the clan could from alliance with other villages, promising them a Konoha with a pro cloud, stone policy.

But this is just fanfiction, Itachi chose his hometown and his brother.

 

[xxSAGExx]

If Itachi would have sided with the Uchiha clan, would the ninjas of the the Hidden Leaf, could they have truly stop the Uchiha Clan? [I mean, who could stop Itachi from within the Hidden Leaf?]
[Danzo's brainwashing is very effective! =D]

The Uchihas would have dieed as Danzo threatened, Itachi is not dumb to be bluffed like that, he went with the choice that would kept Sasuke alive. Shisui was said to have been stronger than Itachi and Danzo took his eyes, the strongest genjutsu user in the Uchiha clan at that time lost to Danzo. Konoha has Hiruzen, Danzo, 3 tomoes Kakashi, Guy, Anbu black opt that have ppl like Yamato, anbu root that have ppl like Fuu and Sai, The Hyuga clan, the nara clan, Ino's clan, Choji's clan, Kiba's clan, medical ninjas to heal the wounded then they have the jounins, chuninsand genins.

Plus the fact that not all Uchihas had Sharingans, it only awakened in a small few at that time unlike Madara's time which was constant war. Danzo only counted him, Hiruzen, the Hokage's anbu and anbu root and not the other clans, if they got the other clans to aid them then it's low diff. Hanzo was was a bit younger than when Oro fought him so he make have been a bit stronger back then.

 

[xxSAGExx]

If Itachi would have sided with the Uchiha clan, would the ninjas of the the Hidden Leaf, could they have truly stop the Uchiha Clan? [I mean, who could stop Itachi from within the Hidden Leaf?]
[Danzo's brainwashing is very effective! =D]

Okay i'm not an uchiha fan but you guys are underestimating them. If the village and the uchiha's would fight than it would have been a even battle. Neither sides would be a winner or loser. Thats why Danzo wanted a sneak attack. Had they fought in a open battle than the war would have reached the Fire country and giving other villages enough time to attack Konoha/Fire country.

I read so many misconceptions in this thread that its making me wonder wtf u guys were reading

- Itachi had MS before the massacre and wasn't sick or blind
- Danzo had only Shinsui eye
- The uchiha clan had enough member with the sharingan or els Obito wouldn't be viewed as a weak child. Also the 3 guys Itachi beat up with basic taijutsu had sharingans. If flodders like them have it than the clan had to have other folks with the sharingan.

Had Itachi sides with his clan than i'm sure that the Uchiha's would win the war because unlike Konoha they could get allies. Itachi could have convinced Obito to attack the village for his revenge or the clan could from alliance with other villages, promising them a Konoha with a pro cloud, stone policy.

But this is just fanfiction, Itachi chose his hometown and his brother.

Well you're basing it mostly on Itachi's strength but didn't Danzo beat Shisui who was stronger than Itachi? And I'm sure Hiruzen is stronger than Danzo who at most had only Senju DNA. Danzo was only basing it off of him, Hiruzen, Hokage Anbu and his root anbu for the fight, if the other clans helped then it's not going to be that hard to beat them and Danzo and Hiruzen were trained by Tobirama who didn't trust the Uchihas.

Itachi didn't have his blade and mirror yet and Danzo already shown to know Susanoo weak point while fighting Sasuke and since Itachi sided with them I doubt Itachi fought him. Also what are fodders suppose to do? Nara clan stops them from moving and use the strangle shadow shikamaru used on Tayuya. Ino's dad used his jutsu to make his opponents kill themselves so imagine a clan doing that to some Uchihas or take over the bodies, No need to say what the Hyugas would do. Plus it was already said the sharingan only awakened in a few members, Sasuke said that somewhere in part 1. Itachi was a kid when there were war and seeing the deaths is what made him pacifist, other kids his age or older could have awakened the sharingan from losing someone.

You do know Obito was viewed as a weak child because he didn't have the Sharingan right? He didn't awakened it until he was trying to save Kakashi on their way to save Rin.

 

[Ahmed1993]

Itachi wouldn't have MS since he awoken it from the massacre.

Read the manga kid , he already had his MS when he fought with the 3 Uchiha police.
He got it from the death of Shisui.

 

[Twisted007]

Well you're basing it mostly on Itachi's strength but didn't Danzo beat Shisui who was stronger than Itachi? And I'm sure Hiruzen is stronger than Danzo who at most had only Senju DNA. Danzo was only basing it off of him, Hiruzen, Hokage Anbu and his root anbu for the fight, if the other clans helped then it's not going to be that hard to beat them and Danzo and Hiruzen were trained by Tobirama who didn't trust the Uchihas.

Itachi didn't have his blade and mirror yet and Danzo already shown to know Susanoo weak point while fighting Sasuke and since Itachi sided with them I doubt Itachi fought him. Also what are fodders suppose to do? Nara clan stops them from moving and use the strangle shadow shikamaru used on Tayuya. Ino's dad used his jutsu to make his opponents kill themselves so imagine a clan doing that to some Uchihas or take over the bodies, No need to say what the Hyugas would do. Plus it was already said the sharingan only awakened in a few members, Sasuke said that somewhere in part 1. Itachi was a kid when there were war and seeing the deaths is what made him pacifist, other kids his age or older could have awakened the sharingan from losing someone.

You do know Obito was viewed as a weak child because he didn't have the Sharingan right? He didn't awakened it until he was trying to save Kakashi on their way to save Rin.

Shisui was stronger than Itachi? lol you do realise that we are talking about MS Itachi.

Also I never claimed that he could solo the whole village but with the back-up of his clan he can fight on equal terms. Also the Uchiha's didn't know about Konoha's plans, in this situation they would be getting intel from Itachi and could make plans like ally them selfs with other villages. If the Uchiha's and Konoha would fight a open battle than the village and the fire country would be in chaos. Now when does chaos happen in civil wars? when there is no clear winner. They would fight for a long time and other villages would have used that time to invade. That happens in real life too, countries that had civil wars with 1 side as clear winner have less losses than other who are fighting for ages.

- Libya had one side that was stronger and the civil war ended pretty fast.

- Syria is having a civil war for almost 2 years now and is in absolute chaos.

Obito wouldn't be considerd weak if the norm was not to have sharingan, that suggest that the majority did have sharingans.

 

[Exaar]

Uchiha clan still would have lost. Even if by some miracle they won, The Clan would be in poor shape, Other villages that wanted the sharingan would have most likely just finnished them off anyways.