If it wasn't for Rock Lee, Sasuke would be nothing.

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Let me clarify: regardless of sasuke getting faster/fast as Lee, Sasuke would have still survive/won because plot demands it. At the end of the day, Kishi would have found a way for Sasuke to leave off to Orochimaru....
Someone can still lose a battle without and still go on to do something important.Like when Sasuke Vs the Raikage first came out.Some people may have been thinking Sasuke would win simply because he had to fight Danzo later,so they used the infamous plot excuse.And what happened? Sasuke still lost and fought Danzo.

A character can still lose and do an important event later that was foreshadowed.In world circumstances is why characters don't die every time they face danger,but when characters do survive in those cases,if the person doesn't like a character they will use the infamous plot excuse.

I thought you were doing that here and may be wrong.
It was kakashis idea so kakashi stole it from lee and Gai and be glad sasuke didn't keep that fighting style otherwise naruto would have been neg diff at Vote
Actually it would have been harder for Naruto to win if Sasuke was moving as fast as Lee when they fought.
 
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Someone can still lose a battle without and still go on to do something important.Like when Sasuke Vs the Raikage first came out.Some people may have been thinking Sasuke would win simply because he had to fight Danzo later,so they used the infamous plot excuse.And what happened? Sasuke still lost and fought Danzo.

A character can still lose and do an important event later that was foreshadowed.In world circumstances is why characters don't die every time they face danger,but when characters do survive in those cases,if the person doesn't like a character they will use the infamous plot excuse.

I thought you were doing that here and may be wrong.
Plot excuses are basically faulty writing, and unfortunately it happens in this manga. Although they can be explained, the manga should do the explaining of why certain things happen instead of forums/people.
 
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Correction, without Rock Lee manga would be nothing U_U
Didn't Naruto copy Sasuke's Lions Barrage?

If it wasn't for Sasuke, Naruto would have lost to Kiba, no?
Naruto would bave lost to Kiba primarly if it was not for bacterias in his bowels. Nardo always leeching on some inner power.

Are you unbanned? That's good to see.
 
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Oh wait, it's DarkStar1, fishing deep within his hindquarters to make a nonsensical thread, or a post ... again! The manga is over, and yet he still doesn't know that Sharingan doesn't grant the user speed, or improve their body performance in any manner. Sasuke trained for this speed for a month. Kakashi also is capable of using the first gate for Chidori.

Log off.

You can't copy muscles,Sasuke trained in order to attain Lee's high speed Jutsu.

When Sasuke copied Lee's Taijutsu,and used it in the prelims,he felt the negative impact because he didn't train in order to attain a body suited for High Speed Taijutsu.

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During the time they had to prepare for the finals,Sasuke spent time training with Kakashi.
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You can't copy speed,and body performance,lol.



Sharingan can't copy muscles,and body performance.Are you this dumb with any other character?

So you are saying Lee would have killed Sasuke? Lol.
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Correction, without Rock Lee manga would be nothing U_U
People are jealous of that Asian Afro.

Naruto would bave lost to Kiba primarly if it was not for bacterias in his bowels. Nardo always leeching on some inner power.
Yeah that too. Kiba was caught off guard but to be honest, it seemed more like a joke battle at the end. Any real combatant would not let a smell get in the way of their victory. Pretty sure if Naruto never farted in Kiba's face then Kiba would not have been hit with those slow fodder clones.

Are you unbanned? That's good to see.
Yeah. It's for my sigs being inappropriate. =D
 

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People are jealous of that Asian Afro.
lol wut
Yeah that too. Kiba was caught off guard but to be honest, it seemed more like a joke battle at the end. Any real combatant would not let a smell get in the way of their victory. Pretty sure if Naruto never farted in Kiba's face then Kiba would not have been hit with those slow fodder clones.
Wasn't it a joke battle anyway? I always thought so. But this is a figher who used sexy no jutsu on a God so yeah..
Yeah. It's for my sigs being inappropriate. =D
It is always the sigs. I thought you bashed Hinata or something xD.
 

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People are jealous of that Asian Afro.


Yeah that too. Kiba was caught off guard but to be honest, it seemed more like a joke battle at the end. Any real combatant would not let a smell get in the way of their victory. Pretty sure if Naruto never farted in Kiba's face then Kiba would not have been hit with those slow fodder clones.


Yeah. It's for my sigs being inappropriate. =D
Kiba was in his beast mode so his sense of smell significantly increased.
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So yeah,Naruto won because of a lucky fart,which is funny cause that was the only ime he ever solo'd anyone besides Mizuki.
 

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Plot excuses are basically faulty writing, and unfortunately it happens in this manga. Although they can be explained, the manga should do the explaining of why certain things happen instead of forums/people.
Most of the time the manga does explained unlike recently with stuff like why Kaguya,Naruto,and Sasuke were effected by the gravity dimension more than Kakashi and Obito.But alot of the times with stuff way before that where people are using the plot excuse,it's because they forget an explanation,like this thread for example.

Or they reject an explanation,or the logic behind it.
 

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Oh yeah, that Naruto win against Kiba with a damn irritable bowls syndrome. Then people claim that this guy's plot shield isn't thick.
 

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Most of the time the manga does explained unlike recently with stuff like why Kaguya,Naruto,and Sasuke were effected by the gravity dimension more than Kakashi and Obito.But alot of the times with stuff way before that where people are using the plot excuse,it's because they forget an explanation,like this thread for example.

Or they reject an explanation,or the logic behind it.
There's been other plot things, for example: how IT worked on people who lacked chakra, since genjutsu messes with chakra in the brain, how madara can see through shadow clones, and other things the manga doesn't directly address. I've tried to give a reason why Kakashi and Obito were able to move while Naruto and Sasuke were not, but again the manga should have gave the explanation instead of people trying to find the answer/logic themselves, which still is at the end of the day-subjective.

But anyway I digress, this is getting off topic anyway..
 

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He'd be dead, in all seriousness. Sasuke got some plot-love and stole Lee's speed because he couldn't do the training himself.

Without that speed, he gets negged by Gaara even harder and eaten, as does every other opponent. Deidara, Ei, Danzo, Orochimaru, Yamato, all merk him if not his basic copy ability. Rock Lee effectively is Sasuke's guardian angel.
Sasuke still had to train to not only be able to fully use Lee's taijutsu but to increase his speed too. The Sharingan allows you to copy jutsus but you need to have the ability to use the jutsu. Sasuke increase his speed with Shunshin, use of chakra in your feet to increase your speed. Sasuke having the ability to even copy Lee's taijutsu is because of his skills.
 
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