If Hashirama > Edo Madara...

[TheSages456]

Read the third point.




Pretty much this.

orochimaru didnt stop 4 tailed naruto. sakura ran up to it and drew its attention then yamato suppressed it. to stop something you must be equal to or stronger than that thing. if hashirama can stop edo madara then hashirama is just as strong or stronger than him. there are some exceptions but in this case that logic works.

 

[TobisPawn]

I didn't mention anything about what you just wrote. You sound a little butt hurt. Relax. Lol. How many times does madara have to say hashi is that strong for you to believe it. If you can't fathom that then say so. But I think it's a bit presumptuous to say its impossible. ESPECIALLY when talking about a manga where people die and come back to life on the regular

Not butt hurt at all. Just trying to clear some things up. I know Hashirama is an extremely gifted shinobi, but he's not as strong as EDO Madara if he was barely better than EMS Madara (in my opinion).

orochimaru didnt stop 4 tailed naruto. sakura ran up to it and drew its attention then yamato suppressed it. to stop something you must be equal to or stronger than that thing. if hashirama can stop edo madara then hashirama is just as strong or stronger than him. there are some exceptions but in this case that logic works.

I'd assume that this case would be an exception, seeing that Hashirama was barely better than EMS Madara (see point 1). And, as stated by Kabuto, I'd assume that a union between the two, with an added Rinnegan, would be better than Hashirama.

 

[TheSages456]

Not butt hurt at all. Just trying to clear some things up. I know Hashirama is an extremely gifted shinobi, but he's not as strong as EDO Madara if he was barely better than EMS Madara (in my opinion).




I'd assume that this case would be an exception, seeing that Hashirama was barely better than EMS Madara (see point 1). And, as stated by Kabuto, I'd assume that a union between the two, with an added Rinnegan, would be better than Hashirama.

are you forgetting the fact that hashirama has more than just mokuton as he comes from the senju clan. the senju clan is "the clan with a thousand skills". i guess those huge scrolls he carries around dont have anything in them. by any chance, do you factor in the kyuubi at all when assessing ems madaras battle strength?

 

[Hanabi legendary Kunoichi]

Edo madara is hashi and madara combined, how is hashi stronger then Edo alone?

 

[Rosco Wellington]

Not butt hurt at all. Just trying to clear some things up. I know Hashirama is an extremely gifted shinobi, but he's not as strong as EDO Madara if he was barely better than EMS Madara (in my opinion).


So you can voice your opinion but anybody with a opposite one in believing that hashi Is stronger you gotta talk to them like there stupid? If you were gonna be that biased from the start what was the point in making this thread then?

 

[WillToWin]

Edo Madara would beat the living hell out of Hashirama. Hashirama is powerful, but until we see more of his arsenal. I got three words: IT'S ALL HYPE!

 

[Naruto super saiyan]

yep hashirama>madara
buuut... EDO MADARA>HASHIRAMA...

 

[Daemon]

o_o When This hashi > edo madara. hashi > reg madara. But Hashirama being stronger than Madara with Hashirama cells infused in him is kind of ridiculous.

 

[Uchihahahaha]

Maybe his wife (Mito?) taught him sealing techniques.

 

[Rosco Wellington]

You guys have to take into consideration that wood style isn't a kkg. Stating the obvious let's state what people seem to forget. He's extremely talanted in water style and earth style. So talented that he was able to combine them to create something completely new. Manga wise he's only to do this. At best ninjas create jutsu. He created a whole new element. His physical strength was of legend. Tsunade times 50. Instant regeneration. Talented in genjutsu,ninjutsu,taijutsu. It's not as crazy as you guys make it seem to compare these two

 

[lol99]

hmm twisting the word stop are we now?

thats up to you, you can twist it to suit yourself.

 

[TobisPawn]

are you forgetting the fact that hashirama has more than just mokuton as he comes from the senju clan. the senju clan is "the clan with a thousand skills". i guess those huge scrolls he carries around dont have anything in them. by any chance, do you factor in the kyuubi at all when assessing ems madaras battle strength?

That's true. But I don't get, logically, how he can defeat Edo Madara when he barely beat EMS Madara.

And if anything, controlling Kurama makes it harder to fight at full power (see Minato vs Tobi and/or Tobi vs Naruto). Or, using your logic, Kurama probably got insta-restrained by Mokuton and wasn't a factor in the battle anymore. Overall, though, if Madara considered Hashirama his ultimate rival, then he shouldn't have been completely stomped (assuming that Hashirama > Edo Madara).

 

[partha420]

LoL! NO SINGLE ALIVE OR EDO CAN BEAT EDO MADARA.

 

[Anorien16]

Few questions:
1. why would hashi solo the Uchiha clan?
2. Isnt the reason Hashi did not solo the Uchiha clan bcos of the same reason Madara did not solo the Senzu clan?
3. Does everyone in NB knows more about Hashi than Madara himself does?

 

[Dantee]

I just don't know. I lost hope for most of NB when I saw people claim Hashi > Edo Madara.

 

[Anorien16]

I just don't know. I lost hope for most of NB when I saw people claim Hashi > Edo Madara.

Well there is no solid proof for it..... except Madara's own words. So if believe Madara's words then one has to think that Hashi may just put up a good fight against Madara, but the out come is uncertain. Hashi <= edo Madara may be more beliveable.

 

[Dantee]

Well there is no solid proof for it..... except Madara's own words. So if believe Madara's words then one has to think that Hashi may just put up a good fight against Madara, but the out come is uncertain. Hashi <= edo Madara may be more beliveable.

Madara only said what he said to answer Tsunade's question about her grandfather fighting Perfect Susanoo. Furthormore Edo Madara is the fusion of both Hashi and Madara stated by Kabuto

Saying Hashi would beat him right now is disrespect to both Madara and the 1st.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

All I'm gonna say is this:

1) Edo Madara's injected cells < Hashirama Cells in Original Body
2) We assume that Hashirama doesnt know alot of sealing techniques from his wife Mito, the Uzumaki. Edo's are weak against those who can seal away the soul. Hashirama probably wasnt using the extent of his sealing knowledge b/c he wasn't fighting an Edo at that time.
3) We never saw the original fight. Madara could have gotten PAWNED the whole fight, but gained an upper hand for a moment by capturing Mito or something. For all we know Hashi could be more than just "alittle" better than EMS Madara.





-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

 

[Anorien16]

Madara only said what he said to answer Tsunade's question about her grandfather fighting Perfect Susanoo. Furthormore Edo Madara is the fusion of both Hashi and Madara stated by Kabuto

Saying Hashi would beat him right now is disrespect to both Madara and the 1st.

Madara just lied to Tsunade about Hashirama being the only one to stop him right?
Kabuto knows eveything right? (He even called him self closest to SO6P)
A few cells carry more power than the original body right?

I think if u go by Madara's words Hashi<=Edo Madara at most.

 

[TheOriginal]

Fu*k logic it's manga