If haruno isn't a clan why does sakura have a clan symbol

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For me the biggest hint is how did Senju disappear all of a sudden while Hyuga, Uchiha and even Uzumki survived ? Senju settled with shinobi of other clans which is why Konoha has the strongest army.

Individuals like Minato and Sakura have the talents of an Ashura descendants because they are Ashura descendants, the clan died but the descendants still live on
There were also other ashura clans besides the senju which the gold and silver were apart of. Kishi was completely silent on all ashura clans.
 

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her parents aren't even canon. And on closer inspection the 2 symbols aren't even the same. The one on sakura's back is a simple circle, while the one on naruto's stomach and or arms is a circle and another inside of it.



assumptions.


Next were gonna be saying bolts symbol is also a clan -_-
Well borutos symbol could be a clan specifically minatos more importantly the better question to ask why couldn't it be a clan.

Either kishi gave them random symbols that don't mean anything to the series or more likely following what's established indicates those are clan symbols.
 

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Well borutos symbol could be a clan specifically minatos more importantly the better question to ask why couldn't it be a clan.
:kk:

It very well can be, but its not. There's nothing notable (hence the questions i asked) about it. Her parents aren't canon, and her kids don't have the name haruno. For all we know (since youre so attached to it) it started and ends with sakura.

Either kishi gave them random symbols that don't mean anything to the series or more likely following what's established indicates those are clan symbols.
Finally getting it.
 
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Because Kishi used the symbols to hint at her being a Senju descendant


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wow... if only I didn't know what farfetched is...


you do know that Naruto's design especially on the stomach means that the seal is unlocked right?
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also you're talking about Naruto, how is that Senju? because Hashirama married an Uzumaki?
I look forward on your future threads of theorizing that Sakura's gpa and gma might be Hashirama and Mito.

I'd also love to dismantle any theories that anything concerning of her learning byakugou.


but +rep for good bait.

EDIT: you should also do one where she could be an Ashura transmigrant
 
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the sarutobi clan is known for their fire techniques, their distinctive members are asuma, konohamaru, sosuke, and hiruzen, and they have existed since the warring states, I.e. they predate konoha. Same goes for Danzo's clan. Wanna try again?

Why can't she be like tenten? not everyone needs to come from a clan.
Who are notable members of the Shimura clan and what is their clan jutsu? How many reputable members of the Hatake clan are there? What's their clan jutsu? Electric? Why because of Kakashi and raikiri? But we've never seen anything from his dad. Do you think Ibiki Morino didn't have a clan?
 

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Who are notable members of the Shimura clan and what is their clan jutsu? How many reputable members of the Hatake clan are there? What's their clan jutsu? Electric? Why because of Kakashi and raikiri? But we've never seen anything from his dad. Do you think Ibiki Morino didn't have a clan?
Apparently his father and grandfather. There names would most likely be on that stone with obito's
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2 as far as we know could be more. Given that sakumo uses the white light chakra sabre, and raiton is the only base element close to white then yes that's a safe assumption. Or you can simply say their trademark is their hair, based off of chiyo's reaction. Or their kenjutsu based off of the enemy kakashi cut open.

No i don't, and have 0 reason to believe otherwise. As I said already. Not everyone needs to come from a clan. Stop trying to pigeonhole sakura into 1 just to try make her "special" .
 

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One of the books talk about haruno clan and their specialties but I can't quite remember them. I do know it had something to do with chakra control and inner sakura during part 1. However, known of this really matters because sakura basically initiated a clan merge. Haruno clan is now linked with the uchiha clan which means of all sakura's descendants will have uchiha qualities mixed with her own.
 

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It's a coincidence but it didn't have to be, the mere symbol being associated with Sakura in the begging set the platform for a great potential back story and power development but Kishi swerved.
Sakura should have been a Senju, wouldve done wonders for her in terms of power ups. Her backstory would still be awful though, but I can't imagine how that could change.
 

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wow... if only I didn't know what farfetched is...


you do know that Naruto's design especially on the stomach means that the seal is unlocked right?
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also you're talking about Naruto, how is that Senju? because Hashirama married an Uzumaki?
I look forward on your future threads of theorizing that Sakura's gpa and gma might be Hashirama and Mito.

I'd also love to dismantle any theories that anything concerning of her learning byakugou.


but +rep for good bait.

EDIT: you should also do one where she could be an Ashura transmigrant
That was narutos seal in kyubi Chakra mode when he got hagoromos Chakra the seal changed
 

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Apparently his father and grandfather. There names would most likely be on that stone with obito's
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2 as far as we know could be more. Given that sakumo uses the white light chakra sabre, and raiton is the only base element close to white then yes that's a safe assumption. Or you can simply say their trademark is their hair, based off of chiyo's reaction. Or their kenjutsu based off of the enemy kakashi cut open.

No i don't, and have 0 reason to believe otherwise. As I said already. Not everyone needs to come from a clan. Stop trying to pigeonhole sakura into 1 just to try make her "special" .
So they're of note but we don't know anything about them or even their name? Just because you die as a Shinobi and get your name on the rock doesn't make you notable as you said Obito and Rin got on those memorials and they weren't "notable" at the time of their "death". Just being on the stone doesn't mean you're a reputable ninja.

Ibiki had a special, one of a kind skill you think he just developed that on his own over it being a clan skill like the Nara's shadows or Aburame's bugs? And you missed the point about the Hatake and Shimura, both are clans with only 1 or 2 known members but they're still a clan. Just because a clan isn't shown depth doesn't disqualify it from being a clan.

You're confusing two arguments as one, me claiming the Haruno is a clan is not the same argument as saying that clan is a descendant of the Senju. Accepting that the Haruno were a clan like every other family of ninja(unless you think Sakura was the first Haruno to become a ninja) isn't "shoehorning her to be special"
 

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When people can't accept that this theory has merit, and downvote out of spite because it's Sakura...

She probably does have ties, why else would she be able to master Byakuguo. Only one that knows it is a Senju, so...
Exactly !!! She has the healing talent of a Senju/Uzumaki and the sealing talent of an Uzumaki and pink is just another shade of red.


All the ones that downvoted me choose to hate Sakura over using reason and logic
 

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There were also other ashura clans besides the senju which the gold and silver were apart of. Kishi was completely silent on all ashura clans.
Yep, in fact there was even a Hagoromo clan in Hashi's era. When a whole clan builds a village to integrate with other shinobi and clan it only makes sense that a lot of the citizens will have some type of blood link to the original clan that founded the village


Minato and Sakura being distantly related to a Senju completely justifies their feats
 

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So they're of note but we don't know anything about them or even their name? Just because you die as a Shinobi and get your name on the rock doesn't make you notable as you said Obito and Rin got on those memorials and they weren't "notable" at the time of their "death". Just being on the stone doesn't mean you're a reputable ninja.
What are talking about? Obito was considered a hero of the battlefield, and rin prevented tailed beast attack on the village. Destroying the bridge helped them win the 3rd world war.

It means you were honored. Which is far more than I can say for sakura's non existent family. Even in the filler movie where they get introduced her parents are civilians. Is it not possible for a civilian to want to become a ninja?

Ibiki had a special, one of a kind skill you think he just developed that on his own over it being a clan skill like the Nara's shadows or Aburame's bugs? And you missed the point about the Hatake and Shimura, both are clans with only 1 or 2 known members but they're still a clan. Just because a clan isn't shown depth doesn't disqualify it from being a clan.
Ibuki's skill was interrogation which isn't a blood based skill nor is a skill that requires family to be passed down Its not a hidden skill ore secret skill or anything of the like. Dude isn't even a complete jounin. He's a special jounin, like anko, and has literally 0 jutsu to his name in the manga.

Shimura clan has 3 notable members, and existed since the warring states era.
Hatake clan has 2 notable members.

All of which are greater and more information than the supposed "clan " sakura comes from. That's the point. In literally every other case it's traceable, to beyond 1 person. Sakura its just her. No scratch that. She's uchiha now, so technically there are no known haruno's in existence, and you can bo both backwards and forwards in time and you'll still come up empty.
You're confusing two arguments as one, me claiming the Haruno is a clan is not the same argument as saying that clan is a descendant of the Senju. Accepting that the Haruno were a clan like every other family of ninja(unless you think Sakura was the first Haruno to become a ninja) isn't "shoehorning her to be special"
No I'm not. My argument is she isn't from a clan period. As every other case here has some sort of traceability. Yes I do think that, unless you're saying that civs can't become ninja and it's limited to only preexisting clans. Then youre slapping the face of rock lee, tenten, and the kid boruto met. All of whom aspire to be ninja with no traceability beyond them. Save for lee who started his own clan with metal lee being his son.
 
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