If Goku could....

[Senju Bean]

If Goku all of the sudden could use Naruto techs in addition to his own and use them with the same level of intensity, what would be the better option for the sole purpose of killing:

Use 1trillion ki of Kamehameha or 1trillion ki of Shinra Tensei?

This is a serious discussion.

 

[Aya San]

Bad discussion, serious but bad

 

[iNotorious]

Yeah it could be cool but eucliwood solos him.

 

[SpiderRider89]

He would be leaving himself open for an attack if he used ST because of the delay in attack.

 

[Saikyokami]

shrina tensei solos kamehameha anyday (._. ) but Kamehameha doesn't have the bullshit disadvantages of shinra tensei

 

[Senju Bean]

Bad discussion, serious but bad

Yeah I suppose this is pointless since you clearly don't know what I am getting at.

 

[Yo pappy]

Goku has telekinesis, he doesn't need Shinra Tensei.

 

[Xlad]

Shinra Tensei I think. Kamehameha is more focused, while ST is more radial. Goku can just beam the planet with KMH.

 

[-ahhimane-]

Let's wait for someone who comes up with a manga having both these combinations.
Who will be a fan of both Akira Toriyama and Masashi Kishimoto U_U

 

[Sir Blades]

I don't even..........

 

[chopstickchakra]

Goku has telekinesis, he doesn't need Shinra Tensei.

Pretty sure Goku can't move objects with his mind, although I stopped watching after Buu.

 

[SharinganisOP]

Shinra tensei would have an overall wider range of devistation, but honestly all it does is push away, on a planetary scale it would only push the planets away right? I mean they wouldn't be destroyed from shinra tensei. Large areas would be destroyed by shinra tensei on the planets but wouldn't destroy a planet like kamehameha would Kamehameha would be able to hit from a farther range though since its a beam and shinra tensei is spherical. While shinra tensei could cause mass devistation to planets by moving them out of orbit or some shit, he could just blow up the planet with a kamehameha easily. Both are powerful both are devastating. Whatever 1 trillion ki means, i'll assume it is relatively large and is enough for shinra tensei to **** up a solar system's orbit, where as a kamehameha wouldn't be able to do that since its a beam and wouldn't really be able to take out all the planets at the same time. But then again a kamehameha could probabally take out a star which would **** shit up... and it's damage would be more instant.

I'll go with Kamehameha, Its damage is more instant and can potentially hit stuff at longer range. Think of Kamehameha as a Gamma ray burst that is being fired at planets while Shinra tensei is a supernova explosion that pushes instead and doesn't explode, but rather messes up gravity and stability of life of a solar system. Both have power and can hit for vast amounts of area, but the gamma ray burst can travel farther and perhaps hit more planets, thus causing more damage.

ANYWAYS, (this is completely off topic) Goku should just learn tri beam. I think Roshi actually describes the kamehameha as piss in comparison (or something like that, but puts the kamehameha to shame that's for sure).

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Kamehameha. He can shoot it from his feet, and make it follow you.

 

[Senju Bean]

Shinra tensei would have an overall wider range of devistation, but honestly all it does is push away, on a planetary scale it would only push the planets away right? I mean they wouldn't be destroyed from shinra tensei. Large areas would be destroyed by shinra tensei on the planets but wouldn't destroy a planet like kamehameha would Kamehameha would be able to hit from a farther range though since its a beam and shinra tensei is spherical. While shinra tensei could cause mass devistation to planets by moving them out of orbit or some shit, he could just blow up the planet with a kamehameha easily. Both are powerful both are devastating. Whatever 1 trillion ki means, i'll assume it is relatively large and is enough for shinra tensei to **** up a solar system's orbit, where as a kamehameha wouldn't be able to do that since its a beam and wouldn't really be able to take out all the planets at the same time. But then again a kamehameha could probabally take out a star which would **** shit up... and it's damage would be more instant.

I'll go with Kamehameha, Its damage is more instant and can potentially hit stuff at longer range. Think of Kamehameha as a Gamma ray burst that is being fired at planets while Shinra tensei is a supernova explosion that pushes instead and doesn't explode, but rather messes up gravity and stability of life of a solar system. Both have power and can hit for vast amounts of area, but the gamma ray burst can travel farther and perhaps hit more planets, thus causing more damage.

ANYWAYS, (this is completely off topic) Goku should just learn tri beam. I think Roshi actually describes the kamehameha as piss in comparison (or something like that, but puts the kamehameha to shame that's for sure).

Well, since they both have 1 trillion ki put into it, they both have the same exact destructive capacity. So whatever Goku could blow up with Kamehameha, he could blow with with ST.

The difference is ST is instant and undodgable, making it much more efficient.

 

[KingHashirama]

1 problem. Shinra Tensei wouldn't require Ki =D. As Ki is visible form of energy.

But in the end Superman would still rape Goku badly. making Naruto techs useless to usee.

 

[Senju Bean]

1 problem. Shinra Tensei wouldn't require Ki =D. As Ki is visible form of energy.

But in the end Superman would still rape Goku badly. making Naruto techs useless to usee.

Well yeah of course. But what I am asking is if Goku could instantaneously transfer 1 trillion ki of destructive force to his enemy in a manner that would be DBZ equilivant of ST, would this be better than the slower Kamehameha of an equal punch?

Well, Superman can blow up entire galaxies by simply sneezing. That is not a fair comparison.

 

[KingHashirama]

Well yeah of course. But what I am asking is if Goku could instantaneously transfer 1 trillion ki of destructive force to his enemy in a manner that would be DBZ equilivant of ST, would this be better than the slower Kamehameha of an equal punch?

Well, Superman can blow up entire galaxies by simply sneezing. That is not a fair comparison.

Well if we made them clash, the shinra tensei would knock out the ki blast, just like it would do to a Rasengan or something like that.

 

[SharinganisOP]

Well, since they both have 1 trillion ki put into it, they both have the same exact destructive capacity. So whatever Goku could blow up with Kamehameha, he could blow with with ST.

The difference is ST is instant and undodgable, making it much more efficient.

except it is spherical like I just said, therefore Kamehameha would be able to be shot over a longer distance, while shinra tensei would push everything away in a spherical fashion, and since this is on a planetary scale it would just push the planets with there being huge craters where the planets were pushed, at least that's my view of it.

The longer distance and instant destruction in comparison to shrinra tensei is why I chose it. Since all shinra tensei does is just push then it should push the planets away and not destroy them, but then again if it pushes fast enough I guess it could destroy them, but as far as we have seen it just pushes, and that's what happened to Konoha it got pushed into the ground. On a planetary scale it would push the planet(s) (konoha) into a different gravity (the ground) but wouldn't destroy them entirely as the ground in this situation is void.

Kamehameha would destroy the planets near instantly and could destroy all planets in a line for a longer distance than shinra tensei, but shinra tensei would put planets in missery by moving them out of orbit away from their stars or something like that. Kamehameha has faster destructive potential and more destructive potential in a straight line. I pick the kamehameha since it is faster to use, can destroy things faster and completely in comparison to shinra tensei, and has more distance, since its all that power fired in a beam while shinra tensei is a giant sphere.

Also shinra tensei isn't undodgable in the dbz universe, instant teleportation and faster than light speed show that.

Also 1 trillion ki isn't a very good or reliable unit.

 

[Yo pappy]

Pretty sure Goku can't move objects with his mind, although I stopped watching after Buu.

I don't know to what extent because he hardly uses it, but he can, and he's also shown to be able to read minds. Kinda silly to think Goku can't when Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan, Trunks, Frieza, Cell, Chiaotzu, General Blue, etc. all have done it at one point or another.

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[Senju Bean]

Well if we made them clash, the shinra tensei would knock out the ki blast, just like it would do to a Rasengan or something like that.

Goku vs Goku. Both with intent to kill. Both intends to give it their all, implying complete destruction of the other if their attack contacts.

3...2..1. Fight!

Goku starts charging solar system busting Kamehameha

Meanwhile, other Goku hits him with a solar system busting ST.

ST Goku wins.