[Discussion] If God is all-knowing, then what's the point?

[leggomynecro]

I actually wrote out these questions a couple years ago, when I was 14, for another website. So that's why a couple of them may seem pretty immature.... but I'll leave them all intact anyway.

My family is Christian, so I wrote the questions from that perspective. But if you want to answer them from the point of view of another religion, feel free.

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If God already knows the outcome of our life, why put us through the test?

God gave you free will he doesn't know what you will choose

Why create us knowing very well who would go to heaven, and who would go to hell?

God gave you free will he doesn't know what you will choose

What's the point of creating us at all? The depressed would be relieved of there suffering, and the happy wouldn't know the difference.

The point to creating all of us? You will have to ask him that yourself if you exercise your free will in a way that will get you into heaven.

Why create Lucifer knowing he would become the Devil?

Re-read your bible angels had more free will thus the fall out...

Why create people incapable of knowing Him, whether by disorder or living in a time or place He is not known?

No one is not capable of knowing him...you know internet age...disorder? lol

Why allow babies to die and gays to be born? Why give people a disadvantage, or advantage, to gain admittance to heaven?

Life has a nature flow once you are born you have to die accept this and you will fair much better. No one is born gay being a *** is a choice. There are no disadvantages, advantages for people to enter pick up a bible and read...

Why does God care at all? If he desperately desires company, why not create some people in heaven, cutting out the middleman?

God cares because he tried that before and the fall out occurred with the angels. Thus if we prove ourselves here as loyal believers with so little to keep us going....faith and a bible is not much..

If God created us, who created God? Isn't the big bang theory more believable than a supernatural being who just happened to exist for all eternity?

The big bang theory is more believable? Right because there are soooo many examples that when something blows up it creates life...fail.

Why would God create billions of people knowing they would suffer in hell for all eternity, the hell He either directly or indirectly created?

God gave you free will where you end up is your choice. He's like a parent if you **** up you get a time out.

If I created a robot knowing it would kill someone, that is murder. So therefore, doesn't God sin by creating murderers? Or by creating anyone at all, since everyone sins?

Free will man...you have the right to be a **** up.

Why allow a serial killer into heaven, who repented in the last hour of his life, but deny a non-believer, who spent his entire life helping people? This once again shows favoritism- the man who killed many, denying them a fair chance to believe, is the good guy, but the man who lengthened many's chances is the bad?

This is based on what? This is a total fabrication created in your mind.

What's the point of God at all? A being that hasn't lived is incapable of longing for or missing it. Complete non-existence would save us all a lot of trouble, God included.

hasn't lived? Pick up a bible and read...BTW here are some hints there is this thing called a trinity...and Jesus is a part of it.

Basically the same question asked over and over.
In summary: Is this all a sadistic game to him?[/QUOTE]

 

[Blackleafe]

Except near the world ending. Where the beast will be free for "short" time and will lead humans into oblivion and heresys. But basically God has promised to destroy that evil which was indirectly created.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yeah god said "go ahead devil blah blah" thats because he closed him in the prison called hell where he cant do shit to humanity =/

I don't know what you were taught, but I was taught there is no Hell, or at least not in the sense we believe. Hell is just a metaphorical term for death in General back then.

God didn't "imprison" Satan, he banished him to Earth. Satan can indeed influence us. He does this through the media, or is it a coincidence that the media is filled with violence, ***, murder, greed and other evils of this world? No. (Ironic since I love rap :/).

 

[uchihaVSsenju]

god is only an illusion of love and the devil an illusion of hate everybody has good and evil in them but sometime one illusion is stronger then the other a person who dies of love with forever live in the hearts of those they touched with kindness and those who die of hate will live in the painful memorys of those they hurt that is part of what i belive

 

[WhistleBlower]

This threads are against the rules. + offensive to some people. So reported U_U

 

[Uzamaki Arlyss]

As a Christian I also believe God is all knowing, but this game called life is to help us come to the understanding of the Universe as he does. He knows everything your gonna do, even if you change your mind. This also means He knows whose going to Heaven or Hell, even if they flip flop between the 2 destinations throughout the course of life. Although God knows everything the Bible also says that Man (men & women) can touch his heart (thru prayer, praise and fasting...not necessarily all at once) so even He can change your future thus changing his mind (of course, he already knew this) Which is more of a reason for me to believe we were created in His image, the chimp is just very man like in its animal behavior. Any-who, we are going through this so called 'bet' as someone earlier stated to help us understand why and how things are the way they are...I believe the original plan was for Man to enjoy this beautiful planet that provides us with everything we need and love our neighbors and give Him thanks until we join Him in the afterlife. I mean the science behind nature and the precision of our planets orbit and location, too hard for me to believe this was all coincidental...

 

[SoulKiller]

If he's all-knowing, then he knows who will be in heaven and who will go to hell, after all is said and done.

It's based on your actions do good in life pray for god etc and you hopefully may enter heaven. You have choices to make on your life it depend in the choices you make is good or bad it will lead you to either heaven or hell. You have a choice to make then do it. Your not a machine that have no purpose etc you have full control of yourself and can think just make the right choices don't be fooled. Some questions we people have will never be answered just accept what you already know.

 

[Blackleafe]

And you are being a douchebag, and your post is offensive for some ppl. Reported.

 

[Takure]

This threads are against the rules. + offensive to some people. So reported U_U

No they aren't, so I reported you for reporting that person.

Why do we exist on this cruel world? Because sin, Adam and Eve choce wrong, they broke the respect of god (the tree with bad apple ), and no we got this punishment. Simple.

This "God" you speak of, seems like a lovely guy... you know, damning mankind for an eternity for the actions of 2 primitive people. Humans were made in "Gods" image, you know this kind of gives you an insight of what "God" is really like.

 

[The Big Boss]

I actually wrote out these questions a couple years ago, when I was 14, for another website. So that's why a couple of them may seem pretty immature.... but I'll leave them all intact anyway.

My family is Christian, so I wrote the questions from that perspective. But if you want to answer them from the point of view of another religion, feel free.

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If God already knows the outcome of our life, why put us through the test?
Why create us knowing very well who would go to heaven, and who would go to hell?

What's the point of creating us at all? The depressed would be relieved of there suffering, and the happy wouldn't know the difference.

Why create Lucifer knowing he would become the Devil?

Why create people incapable of knowing Him, whether by disorder or living in a time or place He is not known?

Why allow babies to die and gays to be born? Why give people a disadvantage, or advantage, to gain admittance to heaven?

Why does God care at all? If he desperately desires company, why not create some people in heaven, cutting out the middleman?

If God created us, who created God? Isn't the big bang theory more believable than a supernatural being who just happened to exist for all eternity?

Why would God create billions of people knowing they would suffer in hell for all eternity, the hell He either directly or indirectly created?

If I created a robot knowing it would kill someone, that is murder. So therefore, doesn't God sin by creating murderers? Or by creating anyone at all, since everyone sins?

Why allow a serial killer into heaven, who repented in the last hour of his life, but deny a non-believer, who spent his entire life helping people? This once again shows favoritism- the man who killed many, denying them a fair chance to believe, is the good guy, but the man who lengthened many's chances is the bad?

What's the point of God at all? A being that hasn't lived is incapable of longing for or missing it. Complete non-existence would save us all a lot of trouble, God included.

Basically the same question asked over and over.
In summary: Is this all a sadistic game to him?

i am not going to lie, i only read the thread title lol

the point is : i am god, and humans amuse me, but only a little and they each get boring after about 75 years lol

 

[Uzamaki Arlyss]

Most questions in life come down to two options. Left or Right, Stop or Go, Stay or Leave, Up or Down...I'm not saying you never have more than two options in life, I'm just saying most if not all of the important questions of life comes down to two options. Call me crazy but think about it...

 

[Vilvake]

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You know the truth, you know how you get saved, you know God will forgive you if you truly want so? And if you refuse the extistent of God and chance to get saved, then you have just made your choice. Isnt that what I just stated on my message above?

Simple: You know you have to turn right to get to McDonalds but you chooce to turn left and get lost... oh how did this happen?... even when you did know the route.

It's not so simple. In reality, there would be many Mcdonalds. Each of them would have a sign up explaining why they're the real Mcdonalds, leaving you to attempt to pick the right one. You know only only one of them is full of the most delicious fast-food ever made. Every other is fake and full of people who wish you harm. How do you pick? You can't look inside of them, to see their true nature. All you can do is settle on one, believing what they tell you... a leap of faith.

But wait! Suddenly you notice an alternate path- one that avoids all the mcdonalds completely. You begin doubting the legitimacy of the claims each is making. After all, the best fast food ever made may simply be too good to be true. All the mcdonalds may be untruthful. What do you pick? Every choice has its advantages and disadvantages. It's up to you to sort through all the crap, lies and vague half-truths to make an educated guess.

 

[ChiefHermit]

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[leggomynecro]

I love how people assume things like it was a tree with an apple? REALLY? show me where it says that.

 

[Blackleafe]

This "God" you speak of, seems like a lovely guy... you know, damning mankind for an eternity for the actions of 2 primitive people. Humans were made in "Gods" image, you know this kind of gives you an insight of what God is really like.

If he wasnt "a lovely guy", then there wouldnt be saving. He loves us and gave us a mercy by giving his only son just to save us who have done almost nothing but sin against him. I d say fair enough. We make evil things, we get punishded, but God loves us, we get saved for nothing...

 

[Blackleafe]

I love how people assume things like it was a tree with an apple? REALLY? show me where it says that.

Lol dont take it literally, should I just say fruit, fine.

 

[The7thHokage]

In my religion, Islam, Before God created us, he looked at the every soul's outcomes and its future, then when he saw what we will do, he wrote down the path that we will take so that nothing deviates from its path.

 

[SoulKiller]

This "God" you speak of, seems like a lovely guy... you know, damning mankind for an eternity for the actions of 2 primitive people. Humans were made in "Gods" image, you know this kind of gives you an insight of what God is really like.

God warned Adam and Eve to not touch that tree etc he warned them but Adam and Eve from the cause of satan eated from that apple tree and as a punishment god put both Adam and Eve in earth and they were the first humans ever there wasn't billions of humans and was sended to earth because of two people actions no there was only 2 humans Adam and Eve so god didnt punish everyone because of two people because there weren't any human kind In first place except Adam and Eve so your logic there is false. And be thankfull because you have a life and I bet you don't pray etc and god still forgives you and gives you more chances etc so be thankfull your alive.

 

[Punk Hazard]

And you are being a douchebag, and your post is offensive for some ppl. Reported.

You're skin is very thin. No one here is even being offensive.

 

[sepfiroth]

i think god is just a watcher
he neither enjoys nor is sad, he neither sets the rules nor he ever punishes
it's us who do all things and it's us who punish ourselves
'what goes around comes around'
that's how i believe
we are responsible for what we have become and what we get out of life.