[Discussion] If God is all-knowing, then what's the point?

[Vilvake]

I actually wrote out these questions a couple years ago, when I was 14, for another website. So that's why a couple of them may seem pretty immature.... but I'll leave them all intact anyway.

My family is Christian, so I wrote the questions from that perspective. But if you want to answer them from the point of view of another religion, feel free.

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If God already knows the outcome of our life, why put us through the test?
Why create us knowing very well who would go to heaven, and who would go to hell?

What's the point of creating us at all? The depressed would be relieved of there suffering, and the happy wouldn't know the difference.

Why create Lucifer knowing he would become the Devil?

Why create people incapable of knowing Him, whether by disorder or living in a time or place He is not known?

Why allow babies to die and gays to be born? Why give people a disadvantage, or advantage, to gain admittance to heaven?

Why does God care at all? If he desperately desires company, why not create some people in heaven, cutting out the middleman?

If God created us, who created God? Isn't the big bang theory more believable than a supernatural being who just happened to exist for all eternity?

Why would God create billions of people knowing they would suffer in hell for all eternity, the hell He either directly or indirectly created?

If I created a robot knowing it would kill someone, that is murder. So therefore, doesn't God sin by creating murderers? Or by creating anyone at all, since everyone sins?

Why allow a serial killer into heaven, who repented in the last hour of his life, but deny a non-believer, who spent his entire life helping people? This once again shows favoritism- the man who killed many, denying them a fair chance to believe, is the good guy, but the man who lengthened many's chances is the bad?

What's the point of God at all? A being that hasn't lived is incapable of longing for or missing it. Complete non-existence would save us all a lot of trouble, God included.

Basically the same question asked over and over.
In summary: Is this all a sadistic game to him?

 

[-immortal-]

he doesnt exist... :| not in my world :|

 

[AngelicYami]

I actually wrote out these questions a couple years ago, when I was 14, for another website. So that's why a couple of them may seem pretty immature.... but I'll leave them all intact anyway.

My family is Christian, so I wrote the questions from that perspective. But if you want to answer them from the point of view of another religion, feel free.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

If God already knows the outcome of our life, why put us through the test?
Why create us knowing very well who would go to heaven, and who would go to hell?

What's the point of creating us at all? The depressed would be relieved of there suffering, and the happy wouldn't know the difference.

Why create Lucifer knowing he would become the Devil?

Why create people incapable of knowing Him, whether by disorder or living in a time or place He is not known?

Why allow babies to die and gays to be born? Why give people a disadvantage, or advantage, to gain admittance to heaven?

Why does God care at all? If he desperately desires company, why not create some people in heaven, cutting out the middleman?

If God created us, who created God? Isn't the big bang theory more believable than a supernatural being who just happened to exist for all eternity?

Why would God create billions of people knowing they would suffer in hell for all eternity, the hell He either directly or indirectly created?

If I created a robot knowing it would kill someone, that is murder. So therefore, doesn't God sin by creating murderers? Or by creating anyone at all, since everyone sins?

Why allow a serial killer into heaven, who repented in the last hour of his life, but deny a non-believer, who spent his entire life helping people? This once again shows favoritism- the man who killed many, denying them a fair chance to believe, is the good guy, but the man who lengthened many's chances is the bad?

What's the point of God at all? A being that hasn't lived is incapable of longing for or missing it. Complete non-existence would save us all a lot of trouble, God included.

Basically the same question asked over and over.
In summary: Is this all a sadistic game to him?

Because it's the game..it's sad I know...

 

[Ōkami]

I enjoy screwing with people, sorry.

 

[Punk Hazard]

God didn't "create" murderers. He created us perfect, and Satan ruined it. This isn't God's world right now. Did you ever stop to think, why didn't God just destroy Adam and Eve and start over? It's because Satan challenged him. He said he would be a better ruler, so God said "Go ahead. I'll let you have an influence in this world".

Right now, we're basically pawns in God's bet with Satan.

But some of these questions make sense, like why create Lucifer knowing what he'll do.

 

[lymesperkz]

GOD gave you free will to do n choose whatever you want. remember GOD didn't create devil but d devil made him self the devil. u need to study the Holy book more.

 

[pandu]

I believe god to be the energy present in the universe.Nothing more than that.I don't believe in any religious stuff,cuz they're all made by humans for their own selfish ends.God didn't create us or any other living creature.They simply evolved because of the favourable conditions the earth had.

 

[Vilvake]

ask your church minister (assuming you go to one) he is much more qualified to answer this

In my experience, Christians tend to give very biased answers. This is what my mom says in response to most things- "I had a very real dream about God, so I know he exists! You'd better believe!"

I know non-believers are also biased, but it's usually not as extreme.

 

[Vilvake]

God didn't "create" murderers. He created us perfect, and Satan ruined it. This isn't God's world right now. Did you ever stop to think, why didn't God just destroy Adam and Eve and start over? It's because Satan challenged him. He said he would be a better ruler, so God said "Go ahead. I'll let you have an influence in this world".

Right now, we're basically pawns in God's bet with Satan.

But some of these questions make sense, like why create Lucifer knowing what he'll do.

Churches have taught me that God knows everything that has happened, and everything that has yet to happen. So what I meant is that God should know who will be influenced by satan, and who won't.

 

[Blackleafe]

Sigh... you and you call yourselfe a christian?

Let's make something clear.
God made us, gave use A CHANCE to choose. (Isnt it nice not to be a robot?)

God didnt creat evil, evil is just lack of love. No seriously just 80% of christians doesnt even know this. God never created evil. Lucifer WAS good but he had chance to deside, and he desided to become evil....

Why does god test us? To let us live. Its same as you know the outcome of game but wouldnt interfier with it because you wanted those players to decide and play on their own. We are not dolls of god.

Why letting murderer to heaven and not "good" non believer. Because no one is that good. This "good" guy HAS made sins in his life, he never asked god to forgive his sins but the murderer asked. Isnt it same as someone just hit your brother once, forgot it, never said sorry but helped lots of ppl afterwards, and you gonna inv him to your party? Or are you inviting a friend who made same things but was so sorry you couldnt help but to feel sorry too. I would inv the one who regretted. It's called love and mercy.

Why do we exist on this cruel world? Because sin, Adam and Eve choce wrong, they broke the respect of god (the tree with bad apple ), and no we got this punishment. Simple.

 

[Vilvake]

GOD gave you free will to do n choose whatever you want. remember GOD didn't create devil but d devil made him self the devil. u need to study the Holy book more.

I'm guessing you don't believe God knows the future, then. That seems to be an issue of debate. My parents believe God is all-knowing, but my aunt and uncle don't.

 

[Ōkami]

Churches have taught me that God knows everything that has happened, and everything that has yet to happen. So what I meant is that God should know who will be influenced by satan, and who won't.

If god exists he probably views the world as a game of Civilization.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Churches have taught me that God knows everything that has happened, and everything that has yet to happen. So what I meant is that God should know who will be influenced by satan, and who won't.

Yeah, it's kinda cruel when we look at it from our perspective.

But God wanted those people to live....how he wants

And he gave us free will....to do exactly what he wants us to do with.

 

[Blackleafe]

I do believe he know everything. But if he knew that for example, i would become evil, he'd try to prevent that trough humans. Maybe he would send some close friends to speak to me (and that happens often ). Ofc he will try to do something, but he wont FORCE me to. That's what I meant by we are not dolls. God knows, and he is sad about those who he knows, are going to get miserable ending

 

[Punk Hazard]

Sigh... you and you call yourselfe a christian?

Let's make something clear.
God made us, gave use A CHANCE to choose. (Isnt it nice not to be a robot?)

God didnt creat evil, evil is just lack of love. No seriously just 80% of christians doesnt even know this. God never created evil. Lucifer WAS good but he had chance to deside, and he desided to become evil....

Why does god test us? To let us live. Its same as you know the outcome of game but wouldnt interfier with it because you wanted those players to decide and play on their own. We are not dolls of god.

Why letting murderer to heaven and not "good" non believer. Because no one is that good. This "good" guy HAS made sins in his life, he never asked god to forgive his sins but the murderer asked. Isnt it same as someone just hit your brother once, forgot it, never said sorry but helped lots of ppl afterwards, and you gonna inv him to your party? Or are you inviting a friend who made same things but was so sorry you couldnt help but to feel sorry too. I would inv the one who regretted. It's called love and mercy.

Why do we exist on this cruel world? Because sin, Adam and Eve choce wrong, they broke the respect of god (the tree with bad apple ), and no we got this punishment. Simple.

Do you really believe God is letting us choose? It's not much of a choice when the only other option is eternal suffering, now is it?

 

[Vilvake]

Sigh... you and you call yourselfe a christian?

Let's make something clear.
God made us, gave use A CHANCE to choose. (Isnt it nice not to be a robot?)

God didnt creat evil, evil is just lack of love. No seriously just 80% of christians doesnt even know this. God never created evil. Lucifer WAS good but he had chance to deside, and he desided to become evil....

Why does god test us? To let us live. Its same as you know the outcome of game but wouldnt interfier with it because you wanted those players to decide and play on their own. We are not dolls of god.

Why letting murderer to heaven and not "good" non believer. Because no one is that good. This "good" guy HAS made sins in his life, he never asked god to forgive his sins but the murderer asked. Isnt it same as someone just hit your brother once, forgot it, never said sorry but helped lots of ppl afterwards, and you gonna inv him to your party? Or are you inviting a friend who made same things but was so sorry you couldnt help but to feel sorry too. I would inv the one who regretted. It's called love and mercy.

Why do we exist on this cruel world? Because sin, Adam and Eve choce wrong, they broke the respect of god (the tree with bad apple ), and no we got this punishment. Simple.

First of all, I never called myself a Christian. And what people don't understand is that I'm not specifically saying that God created evil. I'm saying that God indirectly created evil. He might create people who are sinless, but doesn't he already know their lives and the choices they will make beforehand? Doesn't he know who will believe in him, and who won't?

Of course, this point is completely void if you don't believe God is all-knowing and knows the future.

 

[Blackleafe]

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You know the truth, you know how you get saved, you know God will forgive you if you truly want so? And if you refuse the extistent of God and chance to get saved, then you have just made your choice. Isnt that what I just stated on my message above?

Simple: You know you have to turn right to get to McDonalds but you chooce to turn left and get lost... oh how did this happen?... even when you did know the route.

 

[Vilvake]

I do believe he know everything. But if he knew that for example, i would become evil, he'd try to prevent that trough humans. Maybe he would send some close friends to speak to me (and that happens often ). Ofc he will try to do something, but he wont FORCE me to. That's what I meant by we are not dolls. God knows, and he is sad about those who he knows, are going to get miserable ending

If he's all-knowing, then he knows who will be in heaven and who will go to hell, after all is said and done.

 

[Mejkl3]

God didn't "create" murderers. He created us perfect, and Satan ruined it. This isn't God's world right now. Did you ever stop to think, why didn't God just destroy Adam and Eve and start over? It's because Satan challenged him. He said he would be a better ruler, so God said "Go ahead. I'll let you have an influence in this world".

Right now, we're basically pawns in God's bet with Satan.

But some of these questions make sense, like why create Lucifer knowing what he'll do.

Yeah god said "go ahead devil blah blah" thats because he closed him in the prison called hell where he cant do shit to humanity =/

 

[Blackleafe]

If he's all-knowing, then he knows who will be in heaven and who will go to hell, after all is said and done.

Yes. Correct. What's the point? Is that the question which should matter? I would be more worried DO I GET to heaven.