[Discussion] If Dragon was a Yonko???

[MickNerks]

If Monkey D Dragon was a Yonko where would you rank him and his Top Commanders amongst the CURRENT Yonko?

I personally would assume that Dragon is Yonko level given his overwhelming hype. Dragon's bounty if we consider hype is already higher than any of the standing yonko (if they have bounties) seeing how he is the worlds most wanted man. Also, considering he is the son of Garp (former rival of the pirate king) and the father of Luffy (possibly the future pirate king) I would wager that Dragon is quite a powerful force.
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So if we assume Dragon is a Yonko, and his Top 3 commanders are

Sabo

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Bartholomew Kuma

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Emporio Ivankov

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Where do you think he will rank amongst the current Yonko and their top commanders: Shanks, Kaido, Blackbeard, and Big Mom?

I think the order would be:

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1. Shanks (Beckman + Lucky Roo + Yasopp)
2. Dragon (Sabo + Kuma + Ivankov)
3. Blackbeard (Shiliew + Burgess + Laffitte)
4. Kaido (??? + Jack + ??? (Possibly X-Drake))
5. Big Mom (Katikuri + Smoothie + Cracker)

My reason for this:

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Given his hype I do see him being capable of defeating Kaido, Big Mom, and Blackbeard in combat.

Also if I assume that Sabo is first commander, Kuma is second, and Ivankov is third (though they are aid to be even in strength) than:

Sabo seems stronger than Katakuri and Shiliewbeing stronger than Katakuri
Kuma is definitely stronger than Burgess, Jack, and Smoothie
Ivankov seems stronger than Laffitte, X-Drake, and Cracker (though I would like to discuss this)

But this is my opinion, I would love to hear yours!!!

 

[Gladius]

If Monkey D Dragon was a Yonko where would you rank him and his Top Commanders amongst the CURRENT Yonko?

I personally would assume that Dragon is Yonko level given his overwhelming hype. Dragon's bounty if we consider hype is already higher than any of the standing yonko (if they have bounties) seeing how he is the worlds most wanted man. Also, considering he is the son of Garp (former rival of the pirate king) and the father of Luffy (possibly the future pirate king) I would wager that Dragon is quite a powerful force.
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So if we assume Dragon is a Yonko, and his Top 3 commanders are

Sabo

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Bartholomew Kuma

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Emporio Ivankov

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Where do you think he will rank amongst the current Yonko and their top commanders: Shanks, Kaido, Blackbeard, and Big Mom?

I think the order would be:

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1. Shanks (Beckman + Lucky Roo + Yasopp)
2. Dragon (Sabo + Kuma + Ivankov)
3. Blackbeard (Shiliew + Burgess + Laffitte)
4. Kaido (??? + Jack + ??? (Possibly X-Drake))
5. Big Mom (Katikuri + Smoothie + Cracker)

My reason for this:

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Given his hype I do see him being capable of defeating Kaido, Big Mom, and Blackbeard in combat.

Also if I assume that Sabo is first commander, Kuma is second, and Ivankov is third (though they are aid to be even in strength) than:

Sabo seems stronger than Katakuri and Shiliewbeing stronger than Katakuri
Kuma is definitely stronger than Burgess, Jack, and Smoothie
Ivankov seems stronger than Laffitte, X-Drake, and Cracker (though I would like to discuss this)

But this is my opinion, I would love to hear yours!!!

You forgot about that mysterious 4th Rev we saw a cameo of during Doffy's speech. Also, Kaido is the strongest Yonko, and his other two commanders are King and Queen.

 

[MickNerks]

You forgot about that mysterious 4th Rev we saw a cameo of during Doffy's speech. Also, Kaido is the strongest Yonko, and his other two commanders are King and Queen.

I only did top 3 because some Yonko dont have more than 3 commanders

Also, it want confirmed that the other commanders are King and Queen. X-drake could be the 3rd commander, jack could be the second, and a queen could be the first commander, which would make Kiado the King.

 

[-Akuma-]

I actually think that one Rev that keeps appearing the silhouette will be stronger than Iva.

 

[MickNerks]

That is possible.

I just saw him as a replacement for Kuma. I personally don't consider Ivankov to be any weaker than Kuma. It was hinted that they may have been eual in strength.

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[Sakazuki]

If Monkey D Dragon was a Yonko where would you rank him and his Top Commanders amongst the CURRENT Yonko?

I personally would assume that Dragon is Yonko level given his overwhelming hype. Dragon's bounty if we consider hype is already higher than any of the standing yonko (if they have bounties) seeing how he is the worlds most wanted man. Also, considering he is the son of Garp (former rival of the pirate king) and the father of Luffy (possibly the future pirate king) I would wager that Dragon is quite a powerful force.
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So if we assume Dragon is a Yonko, and his Top 3 commanders are

Sabo

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Bartholomew Kuma

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Emporio Ivankov

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Where do you think he will rank amongst the current Yonko and their top commanders: Shanks, Kaido, Blackbeard, and Big Mom?

I think the order would be:

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1. Shanks (Beckman + Lucky Roo + Yasopp)
2. Dragon (Sabo + Kuma + Ivankov)
3. Blackbeard (Shiliew + Burgess + Laffitte)
4. Kaido (??? + Jack + ??? (Possibly X-Drake))
5. Big Mom (Katikuri + Smoothie + Cracker)

My reason for this:

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Given his hype I do see him being capable of defeating Kaido, Big Mom, and Blackbeard in combat.

Also if I assume that Sabo is first commander, Kuma is second, and Ivankov is third (though they are aid to be even in strength) than:

Sabo seems stronger than Katakuri and Shiliewbeing stronger than Katakuri
Kuma is definitely stronger than Burgess, Jack, and Smoothie
Ivankov seems stronger than Laffitte, X-Drake, and Cracker (though I would like to discuss this)

But this is my opinion, I would love to hear yours!!!

What about whitebeard marco ace and jozu

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

If Monkey D Dragon was a Yonko where would you rank him and his Top Commanders amongst the CURRENT Yonko?

I personally would assume that Dragon is Yonko level given his overwhelming hype. Dragon's bounty if we consider hype is already higher than any of the standing yonko (if they have bounties) seeing how he is the worlds most wanted man. Also, considering he is the son of Garp (former rival of the pirate king) and the father of Luffy (possibly the future pirate king) I would wager that Dragon is quite a powerful force.
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So if we assume Dragon is a Yonko, and his Top 3 commanders are

Sabo

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Bartholomew Kuma

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Emporio Ivankov

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Where do you think he will rank amongst the current Yonko and their top commanders: Shanks, Kaido, Blackbeard, and Big Mom?

I think the order would be:

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1. Shanks (Beckman + Lucky Roo + Yasopp)
2. Dragon (Sabo + Kuma + Ivankov)
3. Blackbeard (Shiliew + Burgess + Laffitte)
4. Kaido (??? + Jack + ??? (Possibly X-Drake))
5. Big Mom (Katikuri + Smoothie + Cracker)

My reason for this:

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Given his hype I do see him being capable of defeating Kaido, Big Mom, and Blackbeard in combat.

Also if I assume that Sabo is first commander, Kuma is second, and Ivankov is third (though they are aid to be even in strength) than:

Sabo seems stronger than Katakuri and Shiliewbeing stronger than Katakuri
Kuma is definitely stronger than Burgess, Jack, and Smoothie
Ivankov seems stronger than Laffitte, X-Drake, and Cracker (though I would like to discuss this)

But this is my opinion, I would love to hear yours!!!

Every Yonko has 4 top crew members instead of 3. For Whitebeard it was Marco, Jozu, Vista, and Ace. For BM it is Katakuri, Smoothie, Cracker, and Snack. For Kaido it is King, Queen, Jack, and X Drake (btw we know that King and Queen are calamities since in a photo of Oda's office we saw a piece of paper with the names Kaido, King, Queen, and Jack written top to bottom). For Shanks it is Beckman, Lucky Roo?, Yassop?, and someone else. We don't know BB's top commanders yet.

What about whitebeard marco ace and jozu

You mean whitebeard marco vista and jozu?

 

[MickNerks]

What about whitebeard marco ace and jozu

Whitebeard isnt a current yonko. I was only compairing post timeskip yonko and commanders

Every Yonko has 4 top crew members instead of 3. For Whitebeard it was Marco, Jozu, Vista, and Ace. For BM it is Katakuri, Smoothie, Cracker, and Snack. For Kaido it is King, Queen, Jack, and X Drake (btw we know that King and Queen are calamities since in a photo of Oda's office we saw a piece of paper with the names Kaido, King, Queen, and Jack written top to bottom). For Shanks it is Beckman, Lucky Roo?, Yassop?, and someone else. We don't know BB's top commanders yet.

You are right!!! I forgot about Oda's note.

Ill edit, but ill still leave it at 3 commander's because I can onl think of 3 known commanders for the revs

 

[Sakazuki]

Every Yonko has 4 top crew members instead of 3. For Whitebeard it was Marco, Jozu, Vista, and Ace. For BM it is Katakuri, Smoothie, Cracker, and Snack. For Kaido it is King, Queen, Jack, and X Drake (btw we know that King and Queen are calamities since in a photo of Oda's office we saw a piece of paper with the names Kaido, King, Queen, and Jack written top to bottom). For Shanks it is Beckman, Lucky Roo?, Yassop?, and someone else. We don't know BB's top commanders yet.


You mean whitebeard marco vista and jozu?

Nah uh, ace is just being downplayed because blackbeard beat him.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Nah uh, ace is just being downplayed because blackbeard beat him.

His bounty is too low for a Yonko Top 3 commander. His bounty is only 550 million, while people like Cracker and Jack (who are the 3rd strongest commanders of their crews) have a bounty of 860 million and 1 billion, and that gap would be even higher if you think that Ace was the 2nd mate. Also Vista had a better portrayal than Ace.

 

[Sakazuki]

His bounty is too low for a Yonko Top 3 commander. His bounty is only 550 million, while people like Cracker and Jack (who are the 3rd strongest commanders of their crews) have a bounty of 860 million and 1 billion, and that gap would be even higher if you think that Ace was the 2nd mate. Also Vista had a better portrayal than Ace.

I didn't even think of bounties, huh, ace didn't know haki yet either did he?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I didn't even think of bounties, huh, ace didn't know haki yet either did he?

We don't know but we can probably assume that he knew haki since he was the 4th strongest WB subordinate.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

I think I prefer to wait and see Dragon in action to determine Dragon's level and if he's Yonkou level.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I agree with you but the Blackbeard order is (Burguess+Shiliew+Laffiete)

 

[MickNerks]

I agree with you but the Blackbeard order is (Burguess+Shiliew+Laffiete)

It doesn't seem like Burgess is stronger than shiliew, based off Burgess performance in Dressrosa.

But your probably right

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I agree with you but the Blackbeard order is (Burguess+Shiliew+Laffiete)

So one of Zoro's final opponents is going to be a brawler instead of a swordsman? Makes sense...

Do you really think that BB's first mate would get low-mid diffed by Sabo?

 

[Sakazuki]

We don't know but we can probably assume that he knew haki since he was the 4th strongest WB subordinate.

He never used it so actually we can assume he didn't have it. Nice try though

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

He never used it so actually we can assume he didn't have it. Nice try though

If a fodder like Tashigi has haki then I'm pretty sure that one of WB's stronger division commanders would have it too.

 

[Sakazuki]

If a fodder like Tashigi has haki then I'm pretty sure that one of WB's stronger division commanders would have it too.

You can't just assume something we never saw. He never used it so he doesn't have it. I went back and checked. If he did have it then only oda would know

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

It doesn't seem like Burgess is stronger than shiliew, based off Burgess performance in Dressrosa.

But your probably right

Shiliew is practically featless, so saying he's stronger than the first mate is a huge speculation. His performance in dressrosa wasn't that bad if anything he lost to someone with the same rank as him pretty badly but still it isn't anyone lower.
So by feats even though Burguess didn't look so good at the end, it's still better than Shiliiew.