i think the rinnegan Could have been unlocked by ashura, hashirama, or naruto

[Sakur]

1. No I really don't, but I belive the full power of the sages body can be unlocked if ashura or one of his transmigrants had the same intention of madara. Like cultivating their other's flesh through medical ninjustu. We all know hashi has hax healing prowess, what was to stop him from ripping a piece of flesh from maddy and sprikling a lil here and there all over his body.
Theoretically it's possible.
If maddy takes the other trans. and get the rikudou's eyes, what's stoping hashi from getting the sages body.
thanks for reading and tell me whatchew think!

 

[lndra]

Didn't read but I'm pretty sure they can with 'Uchiha' blood. Body of the Sage + Eyes of the Sage = Rinnegan ​

 

[Gerkak]

Hashi has the body. Hashirama doesn't need madara's body. The only thing he needed was madara's EMS and he would've awakened the rinnegan

 

[GhostProject]

Seems plausible for sure. Ashura + Indra chakra should yield Hagaromo chakra regardless.

I just wonder if that means the person with Ashura chakra could gain Indra's chakra through the eyes, or if there would still need to be some more weird body implants.

 

[Sakur]

Didn't read but I'm pretty sure they can with 'Uchiha' blood. Body of the Sage + Eyes of the Sage = Rinnegan ​

That's not what im saying
look
maddy+hashi's cells (chakra) =sage's eyes (rinnegan)
therefore
hashi+maddy's cell (chakra)= sage's body (unlimited and ultimate senjustu)

 

[Liquid Snake]

All they had to do was take their eyes and put them in nagato proved an uzumaki can have the rinnegan and use godly techniques and I'm pretty sure a senju would have no problem but the thing is ashura didn't crave the power to beat Indra just to be his equal and prove he's not useless but really either of them with the rinnegan is impossible to beat uchihas with the rinnegan are still beatable madara was OP when he had a little of hashi cells and his sm now imagine full sm hashi with limbo tendo etc. how could u beat him and he is also a master medic and has powerful summons imagine those summons with the rinnegan

 

[Liquid Snake]

That's not what im saying
look
maddy+hashi's cells (chakra) =sage's eyes (rinnegan)
therefore
hashi+maddy's cell (chakra)= sage's body (unlimited and ultimate senjustu)

Madara unlocked hashis senjutsu when he absorbed his senjutsu and if kakashi can use the sharigan and unlock PS hashi can use EMS and unlock rinnegan no problem why would transplanted eyes give unlimited senjutsu and ultimate body lmao

 

[NukaCola]

Yeah, to awake the Sharingan and Rinnegan you need a special chakra not special eyes.

 

[Sakur]

Seems plausible for sure. Ashura + Indra chakra should yield Hagaromo chakra regardless.

I just wonder if that means the person with Ashura chakra could gain Indra's chakra through the eyes, or if there would still need to be some more weird body implants.

I'm actually inclined to belive it could go either way, the only reason why I didn't say that was because they would they have the rinnegan to whitch a lota people think is really impractical, so I went with something more realistic.
but in all honesty I don't think the eyes carry the chakra but I look at it more as agateway from the chakra in the brain. If that makes any sense.
Anyother thing is thou, maddy didn't get the eye and the body until he became jubii jin, so I think it just increase one side of the coin.
for maddy it like (asuming all indra's transmigrants unlocked ems) ems sharingan->>>> rinnegan
so
for hasi or any other transimigrant of ashura it should be (also asuming ashura's transmigrant's had senjustu)senjustu >>>>>unlimited sage senjustu

 

[Sakur]

Yeah, to awake the Sharingan and Rinnegan you need a special chakra not special eyes.

Yea...irrelevant since I never even brought up sharinnegan

 

[VongolaX]

The sage's body is the chakra of all the bijuus.

Ashura incarnates need all nine bijuu chakra.

Ashura himself got his chakra directly from his dad's body, which already consisted of all nine bijuu chakra.

 

[Sakur]

Madara unlocked hashis senjutsu when he absorbed his senjutsu and if kakashi can use the sharigan and unlock PS hashi can use EMS and unlock rinnegan no problem why would transplanted eyes give unlimited senjutsu and ultimate body lmao

The same way maddy got the sage's rinnegan whitch was only half of the sage's powers guy
think of it like this even though indra and ashura where saw as halves of the sage they were really on quarters
ashura had a quarter of the sages body so did indra hince why indra didn't inherit the rinnegan whitch is half of the sage's powers.
Maddy didn't get the ems through hashi's dna je got it through his brother's lmao. Stop trying to be a smartass

 

[Sakur]

The sage's body is the chakra of all the bijuus.

Ashura incarnates need all nine bijuu chakra.

Ashura himself got his chakra directly from his dad's body, which already consisted of all nine bijuu chakra.

In a way that makes since but my theory is still plausible.
This just explains how their were numerous ways to get closer to the sage for both transmigrants haha

 

[Sakur]

All they had to do was take their eyes and put them in nagato proved an uzumaki can have the rinnegan and use godly techniques and I'm pretty sure a senju would have no problem but the thing is ashura didn't crave the power to beat Indra just to be his equal and prove he's not useless but really either of them with the rinnegan is impossible to beat uchihas with the rinnegan are still beatable madara was OP when he had a little of hashi cells and his sm now imagine full sm hashi with limbo tendo etc. how could u beat him and he is also a master medic and has powerful summons imagine those summons with the rinnegan

^^^ this exactly except the whole hashi would be to op. Madara was to OP with the rinnegan js. It should go both ways not a double standard for hashi because he was naturally stronger.

 

[AllHailKurama]

Hashi has the body. Hashirama doesn't need madara's body. The only thing he needed was madara's EMS and he would've awakened the rinnegan

There isn't anything that says that the Sharingan is needed to unlock the Rinnegan. That assumption was made by both Kabuto and Madara, neither of whom know about Ashura, Indra, and Hagoromo's chakra. Hagoromo said that the mix of Ashura and Indra's chakra resulted in Hagoromo's chakra and the Rinnegan awakening. Hashirama wouldn't have needed Madara's eyes, just his chakra.

 

[KingHashirama]

That's not what im saying
look
maddy+hashi's cells (chakra) =sage's eyes (rinnegan)
therefore
hashi+maddy's cell (chakra)= sage's body (unlimited and ultimate senjustu)

. Rinnegan = Sages body + Sages Eyes

There isn't anything that says that the Sharingan is needed to unlock the Rinnegan. That assumption was made by both Kabuto and Madara, neither of whom know about Ashura, Indra, and Hagoromo's chakra. Hagoromo said that the mix of Ashura and Indra's chakra resulted in Hagoromo's chakra and the Rinnegan awakening. Hashirama wouldn't have needed Madara's eyes, just his chakra.

any proof to counter that "assumption"?

Rikudou was born with the rinnegan... His son possessed the sharingan.... his other son possessed the body chakra... and both combined formed the rinnegan.. So yes sharingan is needed.

 

[NukaCola]

Yea...irrelevant since I never even brought up sharinnegan

Neither did I

 

[AllHailKurama]

. Rinnegan = Sages body + Sages Eyes


any proof to counter that "assumption"?

Rikudou was born with the rinnegan... His son possessed the sharingan.... his other son possessed the body chakra... and both combined formed the rinnegan.. So yes sharingan is needed.

Rinnegan = Ashura's chakra + Indra's chakra.

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"He mixed Indra's chakra with a part of Ashura's chakra and that brought out my chakra. That's how he awakened the Rinnegan."

Confirmation that all you need is chakra of both Indra and Ashura to awaken the Rinnegan. The Sharingan is not needed.