I think these people are knocking you with out any solid reasoning to back it up. They keep saying "a bijuu without a jin is weaker" as if the fact that the kurama only having half of his strength doesn't even matter.
A jin with only the bijuu's yang is not going to be as strong as a full powered yin and yang bijuu.
And Madara's PS has been shown to be as big as a mountain ON IT'S OWN, without having to engulf a tailed beast.
Throw in the fact that Naruto did have SM, that probably makes Naruto/Sasuke about equal but that's about it.
Now add the fact that Hashirama took on Madara's version of the technique and he also has SM, I really don't see why any of you feel like Hashi>Juubito is such a stretch. It's simple, Hashi's wood statue was done while Hashi was in SM. If that thing tanked Madara's PS+the real Kurama, it would give Juubito problems, who is weak against senjutsu
A Jinchuuriki is stronger because they can better focus the Bijuu's power. That is what Obito did with the Juubi as well. You do know the PS is a lot weaker than Kurama right? Madara said PS power is on Bijuu level when he said only a Bijuu have power compared. He said 1 Bijuu can do the same amount of Destruction as in tbb power. Yang Kurama power was able to match 5 fully powered Bijuus combined tbb and this was after Naruto used most of the chakra up with clones in the war. Even the 8 tail said how powerful Yang Kurama was so you can put yang kurama above the other bijuus even tho he's 50%. you seem to forget Kurama was said to have near limitless chakra and said so by Kakashi.
Madara controlling Kurama doesn't mean he was using Kurama's full power. Like Kurama's tbb he used, Kurama just formed the tbb and shot it at Hashirama who was charging Madara. He didn't charge it like Naruto did against the 5 bijuus but then again I doubt he could because Hashirama was charging them so was in close distance and if he made the tbb too strong then Madara could have wiped himself out too. Hashirama plain out said Juubito was stronger than him. He said Kurama had more chakra them him (said it was strong, even compared to his and this was when Minato and Naruto combined the Kuramas chakra which wasn't even at full power since Yang Kurama was low or out of chakra and asked Yin Kurama for chakra so fully powered 100% Kurama is stronger power wise).
Your point being would be? Naruto was only using KCM during the first half of the fight, he upgraded to BM and started transferring chakra. This was during the middle of the battle at this point. Hashirama is not handling those four, he can definitely push them far, but he won't win in the end.
His sheer power alone can't compare to what Naruto, Bee, Gai and Kakashi have shown in terms of teamwork, Kakashi can Kamui Bee with with the help of Naruto's chakra, that alone states enough. They can definitely form a strategy to wipe Hashirama out, regardless of your opinion on it.
Four minds are much greater than one.
Nah, Hashirama would win. Look at what Madara who was just playing did to the 5 kages. Hashirama would be fighting Naruto who can only keep BM up for 5-8mins and can barely use his speed (only used it 3x), Bee, Kakashi and Gai. Edo Madara is about even with Hashirama since he pretty much traded Kurama's power for the Rinnegan and Hashirama's cells. If Madara was just playing with the kages and when he used the PS which he said is on Bijuu level and destructive power can change the land scape then what do you think Hashirama would do?
Hashirama can make his flower world in an instant like Madara did except no one in Naruto's group can fly
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. Flower world release deadly pollen or poisonous since they said not to inhale it. This is what happens to BM Naruto and Bee
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. Remember Naruto, Bee, Guy and Kakashi weren't dead because Madara wasn't serious here either. He went easy on them compared to what he did to the kages which he described as playing with children.
Four mine might be greater than 1 but 5 minds is even better and the kages still lost. Madara, Hashirama, Tobirama and Izuna are all on another level, they were raised in constant war from kids to adults while the kage had more times of peace than war. Hashirama can just make 4 clones and fight them all 1 on 1 or do what Madara did and make the same amount of clones as ppl he's fighting (Madara made 5 clone per kage to make it 1 vs 5 so 25 clones total) so 4 clones each and Guy and Kakashi aren't lasting long.
Hashirama defeated a 100% kyuubi + a more stronger ps
While a 50% kyuubi + a fodder ps defeated juubito.....which led me to believe that Hashirama>juubito
Just read what I wrote in the post above, Hashirama is weaker than Juubito cause he himself stated it. Juubito weakness is senjutsus, Hashirama separated PS from Kurama then put Kurama to sleep. Kurama is a lot stronger than PS so Hashirama had to take out Kurama.
