I think kakashi can defeat tobirama

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kakashi only stands a chance against these level of opponents in a team battle lol not 1 on 1


I know. :) but did you just change your avatar? :Omg:
Tobirama dealt with plenty Uchiha with two sharingan so I don't think kakashi will be too much a task
although kakashi could take damage to give some.

It won't be easy but I have faith in Rakiri to the heart eww ugly avatar change again
 

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This is RETARD logic, obviously they would have trouble with the FINAL two antagonist in the Manga, obviously.

i only show what kishi gave me. not sure if you're trying to be rude or funny here xd
 

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Manga says otherwise

Get this out of here Hype believer .
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only Minato & Hashimara are the strongest out of them .​
 

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Tobirama can use his infinite exploding tags in combination with his shadow clone jutsu and edo tensei's, someone said he could kamui the explosion away, if he does that he automatically gives tobirama the win since this would drain him of all his reserves, the explosions are huge and multiplying. If you think kakashi would kamui one of those with no trouble, you have no place in this debate.
 

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Lmao at this thread.

1) Hiraishin counters Kamui. Even if warped, he warps back. Jutsu negated.

2) Suiton is used actually to 'counter' Raiton. Basically you can use it as an advantage in both ways. Physics.

3) Tobirama > Kakashi. If you actually think Kakashi can fight on par with Hokage level ninja's, smh.​
 

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Get this out of here Hype believer .
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only Minato & Hashimara are the strongest out of them .​

Manga disagrees, don't argue with me, argue with kishi.
 

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tobirama can use his infinite exploding tags in combination with his shadow clone jutsu and edo tensei's, someone said he could kamui the explosion away, if he does that he automatically gives tobirama the win since this would drain him of all his reserves, the explosions are huge and multiplying. If you think kakashi would kamui one of those with no trouble, you have no place in this debate.

tobirama wont use edo tensei
he respects the dead and he wont use them...and where is he going to get a sacrifise??
 

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Tobirama can use his infinite exploding tags in combination with his shadow clone jutsu and edo tensei's, someone said he could kamui the explosion away, if he does that he automatically gives tobirama the win since this would drain him of all his reserves, the explosions are huge and multiplying. If you think kakashi would kamui one of those with no trouble, you have no place in this debate.

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thanks Punk​
 

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tobirama wont use edo tensei
he respects the dead and he wont use them...and where is he going to get a sacrifise??

He used it before, he can use it again, don't restrict Tobirama because you know he rapes with suicide bomber edo's.
 

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Lmao at this thread.

1) Hiraishin counters Kamui. Even if warped, he warps back. Jutsu negated.

2) Suiton is used actually to 'counter' Raiton. Basically you can use it as an advantage in both ways. Physics.

3) Tobirama > Kakashi. If you actually think Kakashi can fight on par with Hokage level ninja's, smh.​

Your wrong...minato's ftg counters kamui
Tobirama cant do shit since he lacks speed
 

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He used it before, he can use it again, don't restrict Tobirama because you know he rapes with suicide bomber edo's.

When did tobirama use edo tensei?
 

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I know exactly Kakashi's abilities !! first of all Tobirama CAN use FTG to safety , the only thing he needs is to have some tags around ( just like Minato who has some safe house with tags around ) !
At the start of the battle Tobirama has 0 tags laying around = No prep.Tobirama will have nowhere to warp to, when Kakashi uses Kamui what can Tobirama do? He can tag the ground he's standing on but that won't work at all, he won't be able to cast any jutsu since Kamui(faster than St jutsu such as Obito's and summoning) will take his neck off before hand.
And we sure know that Kakashi is able to use his Kamui for a couple of times , if he can't finish Tobirama in that tries , tobirama will finish him ! For God's sake it is mentioned in manga that Hashirama and Tobirama were the strongest soldiers !! Tobirama has a lot of feats !
Were, past tense he's no longer the strongest. He has 1 counter to Kamui and that's FTG he has no tags to warp to what can he do? Use the power of hype and fanfic to dodge it? Kakashi only needs to do it once, warping something small is faster than warping lets say a whole body. He can warp Tobirama's neck ending the match in less than 5 seconds flat.
He used it before, he can use it again, don't restrict Tobirama because you know he rapes with suicide bomber edo's.
He can keep the edo's Kakashi still kills him, only way he can win is by making Kakashi anything but bloodlusted.
 

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Yeah, Kakashi is above current Naruto now and alive Minato
 

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I am not a kakashi fan and i am not really intrested in this character but i am sure he is more powerful than tobirama

1- Tobirama has not shown any water based ninjutsu that can beat kisame's water attacks(kisame rivals the sanbi in terms of water based ninjutsu)

2- Tobirama's most powerful jutsu are suicide based attack and what is the point in winning the fight if your not alive to enjoy it?

3- I doubt tobirama would use edo tensei because that requires someone elses life and tobirama wont just use powerful shinobi as pawns unlike kabuto

4- His ftg is weaker than minato's and kakashi has full knowledge of ftg

As for kakashi he cant spam kamui because tobirama wont just stay still and let kakashi kamui him and tobirama will be careful if he finds out that kakashi has the mangekyo
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1- Kakashi is smarter and has natural speed

2- He has lightning which can counter tobirama's water

3- If kakashi gets a chance he can kamui the fodder away!

Kakashi>Tobirama IMO

Disagree. You're wrong on the Edo Tensei part, Tobirama can be cold when he needs too, he was the one to create the Edo tensei, meaning he sacrificed lives to learn it and use it. He was alive back when their were top ninjas, so who's to say he needs to sacrifice anyone? He should be able to use the same Edo's he used way back in the pass. He killed Izuna with his sword, theirs Izuna's DNA right there and Hashirama is his brother so getting his DNA wouldn't be hard either. Tobirama would use Hashirama as a Edo because to him protecting the village was top priority.

It was never said that Tobirama's FTG was weaker than Minato's, in fact when Minato was comparing S/T jutsus he compared Tobirama's FTG to Kamui along with his own . Only differences is Minato used Kunais while Tobirama would use clones or getting in close and marking people. Also it was said that they could FTG wherever their chakra is or connected too, Tobirama can use water jutsu to fill the area ( ) and FTG where his water is since it's made from his chakra.

Tobirama has better natural speed than Kakashi, he only said Minato has better natural speed/Shunshin than him. Lightning is stronger than earth, Water is a conductor so lightning jutsu wouldn't really do much against it. Kakashi would need to use his earth jutsu but he only shown 2 different earth jutsus and neither one was on the level it needs to be to stop Tobirama's water jutsus. A jutsu can only counter a jutsu of the same level just like how an element can only overcome another element if it's a stronger jutsu. Edo Tobirama who was no where near full power made strong water jutsus that made Hiruzen use strong earth jutsus.

Kamui? Tobirama is a very powerful sensor and would just sense the chakra build un in Kakashi's eye and use a water jutsu/FTG/Shadow clone to obscure Kakashi's aim. Tobirama was so fast that while he was attacking someone who has a faster Shunshin, he still tagged his FTG mark on him while also putting a multiplying exploding tag on him as well. His clone was fast enough to grab the tbb from Minato, FTG to Obito and gave it back to him before it exploded.

Tobirama power is so great that when he was going to kill Sasuke it shocked Orochimaru, Suigetsu, Sasuke, Minato and Hiruzen and that's him not at full power. Tobirama, Izuna, Hashirama, and Madara are all above kage level.
 

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Your wrong...minato's ftg counters kamui
Tobirama cant do shit since he lacks speed

Dude what the hell.

It doesn't matter if warped. He tagged Obito when blitzed, I doubt Kamui being faster.

He tags ground and returns whenever warped. Easy.​
 

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Lmao at this thread.

1) Hiraishin counters Kamui. Even if warped, he warps back. Jutsu negated.
2) Suiton is used actually to 'counter' Raiton. Basically you can use it as an advantage in both ways. Physics.
3) Tobirama > Kakashi. If you actually think Kakashi can fight on par with Hokage level ninja's, smh.​
Kamui doesnt have to warp whole tobirama, so no FTG back.
W/O creating a mark in some place 1st no FTG whats so ever.
RAiton spreads via suiton.
 

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When did tobirama use edo tensei?

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Read the manga, I shouldn't have to pull this stuff up for reference.
 
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