I Think Jaraiya is weaker than Tsunade

[Penguin]

People actually think Tsunade has a remote chance of winning?

Tsunade speed blitz Mei, and She can counter anything Konan had throw.
And Katsuyu can solo Mei with Acid. And beside it is possible for her to immobilize them both with his electric thingy.

Ya. How many times has Katsuyu hit something with her acid?

Jiraiya relies on Ma and Pa more than Tsunade relies on Katsuyu.

I hope you are joking.

 

[crono0929]

I agree. Without the healer Madara would have stomped them easily.

I actually meant a different story for madara lol, j-man knows sealing techs, and has a LOT of ni jutsu, turn madara into a frog, or trapped him in a frog's stomach lol

 

[Crossroads]

I agree. Without the healer Madara would have stomped them easily.

As much as I disagree with with this guy from time to time..

He's right about this. Tsunade is too good of a supporting team mate to pass up unless you have another healer on her level. (Which doesn't really exist)

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

As much as I disagree with with this guy from time to time..

He's right about this. Tsunade is too good of a supporting team mate to pass up unless you have another healer on her level. (Which doesn't really exist)

i second that, in the 5kages vs madara situation, tsunade is more valuable to the team.

 

[TheEvilOne]

I actually meant a different story for madara lol, j-man knows sealing techs, and has a LOT of ni jutsu, turn madara into a frog, or trapped him in a frog's stomach lol

I know what you meant, but even you should admit that Tsunade played an important role in that battle. Without her Onoki and Gaara would not have been able to fight since they were injured and run out of chakra when Tsunade arrived. So if we place Jiraiya in her place, it means that only three of the Gokage can fight. ( or two, considering Tsunade healed Mei too )

 

[KingHashirama]

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another weak attempt ........... sigh too bad nothing in the series backs that up and i mean absolutely nothing (no arsenal, not even an event/ pain didn't even bother thinking about tsunade when he attacked), actually your stating the opposite.

so basically .............

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Though he went to Tsunade. =]

 

[crono0929]

I know what you meant, but even you should admit that Tsunade played an important role in that battle. Without her Onoki and Gaara would not have been able to fight since they were injured and run out of chakra when Tsunade arrived. So if we place Jiraiya in her place, it means that only three of the Gokage can fight. ( or two, considering Tsunade healed Mei too )

Well i do give you that one, in those circumstances, tsunade's healing was vital...

But what IF gaara,mei,onooki,ay and j-man would have arrived at the same time?

 

[iNotorious]

it's funny because tsunade wouldn't have been able to take out the first few pains though her slugs acid would take out the dog summon.

Pain would have annihilated tsunade in seconds.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Though he went to Tsunade. =]

meaning planed for nothing/nothing special/didn't say a word about her. U_U

 

[KingHashirama]

Pain would have annihilated tsunade in seconds.

Just like he annihilated Jiraiya?

meaning planed for nothing/nothing special/didn't say a word about her. U_U

He went straight to address her..... Did he bother with with Jiraiya until Jiraiya attacked? no....

He didn't say anything about Orochimaru also...

 

[TheEvilOne]

Pain would have annihilated tsunade in seconds.

Just like he stomped Jiraiya?

 

[iNotorious]

Just like he annihilated Jiraiya?



He went straight to address her..... Did he bother with with Jiraiya until Jiraiya attacked? no....

He didn't say anything about Orochimaru also...

Just like he stomped Jiraiya?

Indeed i ain't denying facts but jiraiya was kind of fighting pain and konan

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Just like he annihilated Jiraiya?



He went straight to address her..... Did he bother with with Jiraiya until Jiraiya attacked? no....

He didn't say anything about Orochimaru also...

yet showed respect made the famous statement (sure you know it) ..................... you and me, all day bro

 

[TheEvilOne]

Indeed i ain't denying facts but jiraiya was kind of fighting pain and konan

And what makes you think Tsunade can't survive for 15 minutes against the 3 weakest paths just like Jiraiya did?
The problem is that Tsunade had no chance to prove herself against Pain. He had to heal the village.

 

[crono0929]

Just like he annihilated Jiraiya?



He went straight to address her..... Did he bother with with Jiraiya until Jiraiya attacked? no....

He didn't say anything about Orochimaru also...

Wait, at least jiraiya stomped on a couple of pains, pain himself admited that if j-man had intel=gg
Tsunade had to be saved by naruto and did not even touch pain...

 

[Crossroads]

And what makes you think Tsunade can't survive for 15 minutes against the 3 weakest paths just like Jiraiya did?
The problem is that Tsunade had no chance to prove herself against Pain. He had to heal the village.

I honestly think Jiraiya got farther with Pain than Tsunade could have.

But we'll never know.

 

[KingHashirama]

yet showed respect made the famous statement (sure yopu know it) ..................... you and me, all day bro

Cause he was his master. Though wasn't it Jiraiya who stated him and Orochimaru aren't even on the level of Tsunade when it comes to COMBAT. =]

Wait, at least jiraiya stomped on a couple of pains, pain himself admited that if j-man had intel=gg
Tsunade had to be saved by naruto and did not even touch pain...

Yes after healing 1000+ ninja, and saving 1000+ ninja... If your gonna post like a unlogical thinker, then i'll respond the same way....Jiraiya got freshly stomped. Did he cause any damage to Nagato? nope.

 

[TheEvilOne]

I honestly think Jiraiya got farther with Pain than Tsunade could have.

But we'll never know.

As you say, we'll never know.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Wait, at least jiraiya stomped on a couple of pains, pain himself admited that if j-man had intel=gg
Tsunade had to be saved by naruto and did not even touch pain...

not entirely valid, tsunade was already worn out after saving the leaf's villagers/shinobi's from the massive shinra tensei, she wouldn't have been able to fight in that state.
but you are right about the jiraiya part, he did take out three of the pain's and made one unusable, also pain hid the reviver for a good reason.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Cause he was his master. Though wasn't it Jiraiya who stated him and Orochimaru aren't even on the level of Tsunade when it comes to COMBAT. =]

really ?? .............. and that didn't mean CLOSE COMBAT, coz tsunade is full of offensive jutsu and strategy huh ??

also what about this statement "i will kill you" guess who said that :heh: and ya from a guy who thinks he is a GOD, was saying that "he could defeated me if he knew the secret" necessary ??