I think I noticed a plot hole

[Huzaifa]

Ok I don't remember seeing this in the manga but people keep saying hiruzen knows all of konhas tech. If true why didn't he spam ftg and win the war? So what do you guys think? So does this mean hiruzen does not know all techs or ftg isn't a konoha tech or kishi did a asspull?
Edit 1 If someone has a viz scan of that manga page can they show it as know can be used in many ways or is this hyperbole
edit 2 stuiped thing by me as no one here seems to have a viz scan. I get it if you read that it can be hyperbole and other definitions. I just wanted to see a viz scan as there are sometimes huge translation differences. Example when itachis aid he and kisame where nothing to jiraya. Two different scans said itachi or kisame would beat jiraiya. Other said the former. So that is what I want.

 

[ObiFan]

Just because he knows all the techs doesn't mean he should use them.What you discovered isn't a plot hole,sir-it was your stupidity...

 

[Glorious]

Knowing all of them doesn't mean being able to use all of them.

 

[Huzaifa]

Just because he knows all the techs doesn't mean he should use them.What you discovered isn't a plot hole,sir-it was your stupidity...

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The third definition here is what I used here. This can be best solved by a viz scan clear up.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Hyperbole imho.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

He probably KNOWS ABOUT THEM.

Obviously he can't use all of them, as some are KKGs.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

I don't know where Hiruzen stands right now. All of the hype Kishi gave him 10 years ago are being given to characters who oriiginally had no real purpose in the series. Like how Hashirama is extremely relevant to the story and being called 'God of Shinobi' unlike 10 years ago.

 

[xcoyote]

The editors pushed Kishi to nerf Hiruzen and his Neutralizer jutsu so the manga could last more.

 

[Zebstrika]

Knowing all of them doesn't mean being able to use all of them.

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Well, will you look at that Hiruzen knows them and was able to use them. Manga fact.

 

[llazy77]

its a straight up asspull by kishi but thsi isnt really the worst asspull there are bigger ones

 

[AlphaScythian]

Hiruzen got Alzheimer meanwhile...

 

[Huzaifa]

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Well, will you look at that Hiruzen knows them and was able to use them. Manga fact.

Is that from viz?

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Knowing of them is not the same as being able to use them.
Don't jump to conclusions.
Knowing techniques is just as valuable as being able to perform them.

 

[fayeon]

Like the memebers said

Also i love your font color ,its so relaxing .

You can say bad thing (even about sakura)yet looks beautiful.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Before you start bashing

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The third definition here is what I used here. This can be best solved by a viz scan clear up.

And there are two other definitions as well.

To understand and have information of the subject in question.
We don't need hiruzen to declare it himself which definition that statement fell under.
Obviously he can't know secret techniques or KKG.
Meaning it was the latter.
Which is why he was also called the "Professor"
Because he understood the fundamentals of the justu within his village.

 

[Huzaifa]

And there are two other definitions as well.

To understand and have information of the subject in question.
We don't need hiruzen to declare it himself which definition that statement fell under.
Obviously he can't know secret techniques or KKG.
Meaning it was the latter.
Which is why he was also called the "Professor"
Because he understood the fundamentals of the justu within his village.

Yea I know that part. I think it could have also been a translation issue so I just want to see the viz one of that panel to finally decide.

 

[China IL]

Sasuke has EMS, but he doesn't use Kamui

 

[Zebstrika]

Is that from viz?

You won't be able to argue semantics on this one. The viz says he knew and could perform them all existing konoha techniques.

Feel free to deny this manga facts but at the same time use other manga facts to back up your arguments. Because that's what unbiased people do.

 

[UchihaMifune]

Holy shit you are taking this too seriously....

 

[foxyladyland]

SOME people are actually saying Sarutobi knows all the jutsu meaning he knows of them , but doesn't mean uses them.

Which is what I was thinking , but after 100s of threads about this people are finally saying it. Lol

There its cleared up. ( ^_______^ ) <-- Gamatatsu XD