I think Gaara might get Magnetic style

[s0ulja]

since when did gaara learn to magnetise things? his a wind element user :s
KG's aren't alwais inherited, they can be taught as well, so its a possibility for gaara is he wants to..but i think he might have something better up his sleeve, after all his Gaara of the Desert

 

[Sasuke2]

Theory! What if KG's of hosts are somehow suppressed by their tailed beasts ?
Naruto is Uzumaki yet he has done nothing special without KB.
Maybe without Shukaku, Gaara may also unlock magnetic release

 

[leafeater]

since when did gaara learn to magnetise things? his a wind element user :s
KG's aren't alwais inherited, they can be taught as well, so its a possibility for gaara is he wants to..but i think he might have something better up his sleeve, after all his Gaara of the Desert

KG's are always inherited unless some weird science mutation is done by Madara or Orochimaru have done or the rare transplant. They can never be taught other than how to use them in people already born with them, that's why they're their called bloodline limits.

Edit: Whoever said Gaara uses magnetism needs to show proof. He controls sand in the same way as the Shukaku.

Peace

 

[D3A]

since when did gaara learn to magnetise things? his a wind element user :s
KG's aren't alwais inherited, they can be taught as well, so its a possibility for gaara is he wants to..but i think he might have something better up his sleeve, after all his Gaara of the Desert

The Magnetism KG of the Cloud and Sand are different. In the Cloud they Magnetize people and weapons, in the Sand, they use the magnetism to control sand (i.e. Iron Sand, Gold Dust, Gaara's Sand) Although Gaara's Sand tech was thought to be cuz of the Shukaku, with the Shukaku gone, he's still controlling sand so my guess is that there are 2 types of Magneto KG, and Gaara has one variant that belongs to the Sand Village

 

[s0ulja]

KG's are always inherited unless some weird science mutation is done by Madara or Orochimaru have done or the rare transplant. They can never be taught other than how to use them in people already born with them, that's why they're their called bloodline limits.

Edit: Whoever said Gaara uses magnetism needs to show proof. He controls sand in the same way as the Shukaku.

Peace

Thats what i originally thought of the KG as well, but how do you explain the dust release, that would suggest mu and onoki are father and son? but they said mu was is teacher.
dust release is a kekkei tōta, which is an advanced and extremely powerful form of kekkei genkai..narutopedia
..also, Kekkei genkai and their related techniques cannot be taught to or copied by others. However, kekkei genkai can be given to others..narutopedia (though sounds a little contradictory :s)

 

[s0ulja]

The Magnetism KG of the Cloud and Sand are different. In the Cloud they Magnetize people and weapons, in the Sand, they use the magnetism to control sand (i.e. Iron Sand, Gold Dust, Gaara's Sand) Although Gaara's Sand tech was thought to be cuz of the Shukaku, with the Shukaku gone, he's still controlling sand so my guess is that there are 2 types of Magneto KG, and Gaara has one variant that belongs to the Sand Village

clouds magnetism can be explained by their affinity to lightening element but i thought gaara controls the sand in his gourd by infusing his charka, thats not magnetising is it? :s
and shukaku's ability to control sand remained in him, now sure how or why..though i'm guessing it will be explain in the near future...

funny sig btw LOL

 

[leafeater]

Thats what i originally thought of the KG as well, but how do you explain the dust release, that would suggest mu and onoki are father and son? but they said mu was is teacher.
dust release is a kekkei tōta, which is an advanced and extremely powerful form of kekkei genkai..narutopedia
..also, Kekkei genkai and their related techniques cannot be taught to or copied by others. However, kekkei genkai can be given to others..narutopedia (though sounds a little contradictory :s)

So... According to Itachi, Madara was his teacher, and we know Hiashi has served as Neji's just to throw out two examples. That doesn't mean or imply KG's are taught.

Peace

 

[Avani]

Whoever said Gaara uses magnetism needs to show proof. He controls sand in the same way as the Shukaku.

Peace

yea... Kinkaku and his brother were in contact with kyuubi for a few days ( in his belly eating him) and retained his chakra... whatyever... Gara had shukau inside him for years. It seems like the beast if in contact with the host can develop similar powers to an extent if in contact for long enough.

Besides we know that Jinchuriki has to be more than ordinary chakra and skills to surcive the process already. otherwise they die in the process itself or die soon after being made into a jinchuriki since they cannot control it.

Gara had it in enough control so he was strong and much of his skills and consentration were wasted in this direction as well. Once gotten rid of it and able to sleep properly and concentratrion on his on skills - there is no surprise that he is able to face previous kages on equal or better terms.

 

[Captain Shodai]

I highly doubt he has it, he'd use Iron or Gold which is stronger.

BTW: Jinton = Dust
Jiton = Magnetism

 

[blazekev90]

Garra's sand is already BA to me, he doesnt need KG if he has already been using it, that would make him basically invincible.

 

[lolitaninja]

It would be cool if it turns out Gaara would have a KG because it would mean that his siblings have it too! (And then maybe people will stop underestimating them once and for all!)

 

[veggetta13]

Yet at around 16 years of age he hasn't shown it, and those things kick in early not late and conveniently. Plus, Gaara has zero need as I have a feeling we'll soon be shown.

Gaara has something better in my opinion. He has the Shukaku's powers over the sand without the Shukaku, whereas his predecessors needed iron and gold with magnetism to get something like it.

Peace

Still every sibling in the area is still expecting Gaara to get his hands over metals or similars since the Sasori fight. Come on, Kishi is up with Gaara, it will come...

It`s just like thinking how to manipulate matter with chakra, that`d be like the basic right? Then after contrlling sand, you move on to flour, coke, and eventually gold dust, or iron dust--

 

[s0ulja]

So... According to Itachi, Madara was his teacher, and we know Hiashi has served as Neji's just to throw out two examples. That doesn't mean or imply KG's are taught.

Peace

every uchiha is born with the sharingan eye and every hyuga is born with the byakugan..so the examples don't reali mean anythin

 

[leafeater]

every uchiha is born with the sharingan eye and every hyuga is born with the byakugan..so the examples don't reali mean anythin

They mean that teacher does not equate to KG teacher because the words make no sense. Did Muu teach Onooki how to expand his bloodline, lol?
They both have the rare genes capable of the techniques and the knowledge to use them, it doesn't mean others didn't. We don't know much about KT's, so maybe they require guidance to understand how to combine 3 elements. Further, given how powerful the the KT dust release is along Muu/Onooki's possible desire to maintain the secrets amongst a few, I'm not at all surprised at all that just two people have ever used dust release. Everything is not so straightforward.

Please give me one solid example of a person that acquired person a KG through teaching and not genetics while for others the the same KG was acquired by genetics. For example, if you can, please show me someone taught ice release or a doujutsu, but you won't. You must be able to prove that to begin to make your case otherwise you're just speculating. There's a reason they're called KG's/KT's, aka blood limits/expansions respectively, which I'm sure you know.

If people could just learn these KG's, then the series would suck. I mean Naruto could have just trained on KG's with his 2,000+ clones and become some overpowered beast. Where's the fun in a Naruto with mouton, ice, and a Byakuugan. He would be the most powerful because he can train the most followed by Sasuke who would do the same thing. Learning KG's without the genetic requirements would destroy the Naruto universe. The only exception is the eye transplants, which Kishi has done a good job of balancing like Kakashi's Sharingan and chakra. :hug:

Peace

 

[s0ulja]

They mean that teacher does not equate to KG teacher because the words make no sense. Did Muu teach Onooki how to expand his bloodline, lol?
They both have the rare genes capable of the techniques and the knowledge to use them, it doesn't mean others didn't. We don't know much about KT's, so maybe they require guidance to understand how to combine 3 elements. Further, given how powerful the the KT dust release is along Muu/Onooki's possible desire to maintain the secrets amongst a few, I'm not at all surprised at all that just two people have ever used dust release. Everything is not so straightforward.

Please give me one solid example of a person that acquired person a KG through teaching and not genetics while for others the the same KG was acquired by genetics. For example, if you can, please show me someone taught ice release or a doujutsu, but you won't. You must be able to prove that to begin to make your case otherwise you're just speculating. There's a reason they're called KG's/KT's, aka blood limits/expansions respectively, which I'm sure you know.

If people could just learn these KG's, then the series would suck. I mean Naruto could have just trained on KG's with his 2,000+ clones and become some overpowered beast. Where's the fun in a Naruto with mouton, ice, and a Byakuugan. He would be the most powerful because he can train the most followed by Sasuke who would do the same thing. Learning KG's without the genetic requirements would destroy the Naruto universe. The only exception is the eye transplants, which Kishi has done a good job of balancing like Kakashi's Sharingan and chakra. :hug:

Peace

do u even noe what ur arguing here? i said i had the same view with KG's but the dust element is a mystery so maybe some kg's could be taught..n did u personali do a dna test on mu n onoki? stop being a hypocrite

 

[leafeater]

do u even noe what ur arguing here? i said i had the same view with KG's but the dust element is a mystery so maybe some kg's could be taught..n did u personali do a dna test on mu n onoki? stop being a hypocrite

I'm putting this all in spoilers to help ameliorate derailing the thread.

Spoiler

I went back and reread your posts, and I see sometimes you agree and others you disagree about the teaching vs. genetics as the source of KG's. Thus, I apologize that I missed some of your posts, but you still said things like KG's can be taught, which got this whole ball rolling at the beginning. No offense, but you haven't been completely clear and consistent across your posts.

I see no reason why dust release is a unique exception at this time to what's been said in the present manga and taught as opposed to genetic until the manga says otherwise. If the manga shows that the expansion is taught and not just genetic then fine, if it doesn't, then there's no reason to believe that it's taught.

Further, you've only referred to dust and not other KG's I believe, whereas the thread is about Gaara. So is your point that only dust is unique and can be taught? Then what does that have to do with Gaara?

Finally, I'm not a hypocrite, please look it up. A hypocrite is someone who says one thing and does another, I've been consistent, so I'm not quite sure what word you meant to use, albeit I'm sure it was meant to be derisive anyway lol.

Please calm down. I'm not attacking you, so there's no need for any rude statements, especially when they're incorrect. I've been respectful and polite. My points are clear. If you already agreed with them fine there's nothing to do there. If you didn't perhaps you'll consider a different perspective.

Peace

 

[Avani]

..also, Kekkei genkai and their related techniques cannot be taught to or copied by others. However, kekkei genkai can be given to others..narutopedia (though sounds a little contradictory :s)

When you quote it like that you better provide link so that other people explain it you what you missed- I wonder if you are quoting something from a refernce to Kakshi ( Obito gave his sharingan to him). Besides Narutopedia is good for reference but, it's fan written and manga supersedes as a proof.

since when did gaara learn to magnetise things? his a wind element user :s
KG's aren't alwais inherited, they can be taught as well, so its a possibility for gaara is he wants to..but i think he might have something better up his sleeve, after all his Gaara of the Desert

do u even noe what ur arguing here? i said i had the same view with KG's but the dust element is a mystery so maybe some kg's could be taught..n did u personali do a dna test on mu n onoki? stop being a hypocrite

It was a pointless disscusion to start with and then you are making contradictory statements and now accusing others needlessly for pointing out flaws in your statements..

Way to go. U_U

 

[s0ulja]

When you quote it like that you better provide link so that other people explain it you what you missed- I wonder if you are quoting something from a refernce to Kakshi ( Obito gave his sharingan to him). Besides Narutopedia is good for reference but, it's fan written and manga supersedes as a proof.





It was a pointless disscusion to start with and then you are making contradictory statements and now accusing others needlessly for pointing out flaws in your statements..

Way to go. U_U

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lets start from the begining....the question that was raised in this thread was "Since Gaara's father has magnetic style a think Gaara will get it too. Gaara would be so elite with that KG and his own sand."
...this was my first response...

Re: I think Gaara might get Magnetic style
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Originally Posted by Futur3Cha0s View Post
going by that philosophy temari and kankuro would get it too, which is unlikely
..neither of them use sand(why would the need to magnetise a puppet or the fan)

as for the theory...possible but unlikely(self explainatory)
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Re: I think Gaara might get Magnetic style
since when did gaara learn to magnetise things? his a wind element user :s
KG's aren't alwais inherited(the link, thats the onli reason..other wise i myself thought kg's were inherited), they can be taught as well, so its a possibility for gaara is he wants to..but i think he might have something better up his sleeve, after all his Gaara of the Desert


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Re: I think Gaara might get Magnetic style
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Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
KG's are always inherited unless some weird science mutation is done by Madara or Orochimaru have done or the rare transplant. They can never be taught other than how to use them in people already born with them, that's why they're their called bloodline limits.

Edit: Whoever said Gaara uses magnetism needs to show proof. He controls sand in the same way as the Shukaku.

Peace
Thats what i originally thought of the KG as well (i'm agreeing here), but how do you explain the dust release, that would suggest mu and onoki are father and son? but they said mu was is teacher. (dust release seems like an exception, so to me maybe there are exceptions to the rule)
dust release is a kekkei tōta, which is an advanced and extremely powerful form of kekkei genkai..narutopedia

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..also, Kekkei genkai and their related techniques cannot be taught to or copied by others. However, kekkei genkai can be given to others..narutopedia (though sounds a little contradictory :s)

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(i'm suggesting it sounds contradictory but thats why i feel there can be exceptions

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Re: I think Gaara might get Magnetic style
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Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
So... According to Itachi, Madara was his teacher, and we know Hiashi has served as Neji's just to throw out two examples. That doesn't mean or imply KG's are taught.

Peace
every uchiha is born with the sharingan eye and every hyuga is born with the byakugan..so the examples don't reali mean anythin (dojutsu are passed on the the offsprings 100% of the time as far as i noe, so i felt those two example were irrelevant to magnetism, as it is a diff type of KG)

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Re: I think Gaara might get Magnetic style
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Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
They mean that teacher does not equate to KG teacher because the words make no sense. Did Muu teach Onooki how to expand his bloodline, lol?
They both have the rare genes capable of the techniques(unless they're blood related still, still is an exception as far as KG's go. and how does leafeater noe what kind of dna mu n onki have? sureli his SPECULATING) and the knowledge to use them, it doesn't mean others didn't. We don't know much about KT's, so maybe they require guidance to understand how to combine 3 elements. Further, given how powerful the the KT dust release is along Muu/Onooki's possible desire to maintain the secrets amongst a few, I'm not at all surprised at all that just two people have ever used dust release. Everything is not so straightforward.

Please give me one solid example of a person that acquired person a KG through teaching (we've just been debating about the dust element..isnt that good enough)and not genetics while for others the the same KG was acquired by genetics. For example, if you can, please show me someone taught ice release or a doujutsu, but you won't. You must be able to prove that to begin to make your case otherwise you're just speculating(leafeater just speculated above yet his telling me not to speculate...what am i speculating? i'm going off by narutopedia. There's a reason they're called KG's/KT's, aka blood limits/expansions respectively, which I'm sure you know.

If people could just learn these KG's, then the series would suck. I mean Naruto could have just trained on KG's with his 2,000+ clones and become some overpowered beast. Where's the fun in a Naruto with mouton, ice, and a Byakuugan. He would be the most powerful because he can train the most followed by Sasuke who would do the same thing. Learning KG's without the genetic requirements would destroy the Naruto universe. The only exception is the eye transplants, which Kishi has done a good job of balancing like Kakashi's Sharingan and chakra.the sarcasm and exaggeration one canot help but take it as a personal attack

Peace
do u even noe what ur arguing here? i said i had the same view with KG's but the dust element is a mystery so maybe some kg's could be taught..n did u personali do a dna test on mu n onoki? stop being a hypocrite

read before u start playing favourites

 

[Captain Shodai]

guys, isn't it much more likely that onoki was born with dust release and the only thing mu taught him was how to use it..

 

[s0ulja]

I'm putting this all in spoilers to help ameliorate derailing the thread.

Spoiler

I went back and reread your posts, and I see sometimes you agree and others you disagree about the teaching vs. genetics as the source of KG's. Thus, I apologize that I missed some of your posts, but you still said things like KG's can be taught, which got this whole ball rolling at the beginning. No offense, but you haven't been completely clear and consistent across your posts.

I see no reason why dust release is a unique exception at this time to what's been said in the present manga and taught as opposed to genetic until the manga says otherwise. If the manga shows that the expansion is taught and not just genetic then fine, if it doesn't, then there's no reason to believe that it's taught.

Further, you've only referred to dust and not other KG's I believe, whereas the thread is about Gaara. So is your point that only dust is unique and can be taught? Then what does that have to do with Gaara?

Finally, I'm not a hypocrite, please look it up. A hypocrite is someone who says one thing and does another, I've been consistent, so I'm not quite sure what word you meant to use, albeit I'm sure it was meant to be derisive anyway lol.

Please calm down. I'm not attacking you, so there's no need for any rude statements, especially when they're incorrect. I've been respectful and polite. My points are clear. If you already agreed with them fine there's nothing to do there. If you didn't perhaps you'll consider a different perspective.

Peace

maybe u should re-read them, b'cuz i agree that KG's are bloodline limits but confused to weather dust limit may be an exception, for reason chek the previous post.

my view on gara was stated in my first post...u can read the previous post or go back ur choice.

are u a hyocrite or not? read the previous post and decide for yourself...

i am calm, don't play coy with me either..ur saying ur not personall attacking yet ur post shows otherwise. i agree yes KG's are bloodline limts as dey mean, but i'm not 100% convinced about dust (reason being..the narutopedia links) so dust may be an exception..and if theres one exception many others may come about. so i'm open to exceptions.