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I thought Naruto just rekindled his chakra instead of healing Gai completely. I don't think Gai's leg was healed. Although it does seem Naruto's hand was capable of slowing the process as Naruto's clones died within the moment while Obito stayed there for a longer time.
 

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I think he's missing the point of Plot no Jutsu. It is because the WRITER had intended for Gai to survive and not Obito. So the writer wrote the plot to be as such. Plot no jutsu. Plot Shield works in the same way. Look it up, bro.

When an attack lands on the main character that could outright kill any normal character, they don't die. All other secondary characters die, but the main characters made to extend the plot can not die due to plot.
 

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OBJECTION! Allow me to explain you why Plot no jutsu is TOTALLY Valid answer. you see Nardo saved Gai the way Nardo tried to Obito, it should happened like Gai was but It wasn't! I have some evidence!
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you notice at SFX " Crumble"
Gai was saved by Nardo. Nardo should save obito like nardo did with gai. yet, PLOT NO JUTSU Prevented NARDO!
This is nothing you can do with this. In fact you have zero evidence..it's futile
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Objection! you seem to forget that what was going to be Guy's Cause Of Death is different from the way Obito's Cause Of Death, Kaguya's Jutsu All Killing Ash Bones causes a persons body to immediately crumble along side the Bone Spur the moment Kaguya's All Killing Ash Bones come in contact with the person's body, while the 8th Gate the Gate Of Death can cause the user's body to crumble it doesn't crumble as slower then it does when it's hit by All Killing Ash Bones and also because Guy's body was crumbling at a Slow Rate Naruto was able to save Guy before it was too late, the reason why Naruto couldn't save Obito is because Obito's body had already began to crumble at a very Fast Rate the moment Kaguya's Jutsu hit him what's more the effects of All Killing Ash Bones can't be stopped once they start, that's why Plot Jutsu is an Invalid Answer, Take That!
 

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Objection! you seem to forget that what was going to be Guy's Cause Of Death is different from the way Obito's Cause Of Death, Kaguya's Jutsu All Killing Ash Bones causes a persons body to immediately crumble along side the Bone Spur the moment Kaguya's All Killing Ash Bones come in contact with the person's body, while the 8th Gate the Gate Of Death can cause the user's body to crumble it doesn't crumble as slower then it does when it's hit by All Killing Ash Bones and also because Guy's body was crumbling at a Slow Rate Naruto was able to save Guy before it was too late, the reason why Naruto couldn't save Obito is because Obito's body had already began to crumble at a very Fast Rate the moment Kaguya's Jutsu hit him what's more the effects of All Killing Ash Bones can't be stopped once they start, that's why Plot Jutsu is an Invalid Answer, Take That!
OBJECTION! I Object your Objectionable!
Just what kind of trick are you pulling out!
Look at latest chapter, Ash killing bones crumbled Obito at slow rate. if it's fast rate then obito would already crumbled in page of 4 but Obito stays alive till page 18. Nardo could save him somehow but PLOT NO JUTSU Prevented it.
 

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OBJECTION! I Object your Objectionable!
Just what kind of trick are you pulling out!
Look at latest chapter, Ash killing bones crumbled Obito at slow rate. if it's fast rate then obito would already crumbled in page of 4 but Obito stays alive till page 18. Nardo could save him somehow but PLOT NO JUTSU Prevented it.
Objection! while it's true that Obito's body did crumble at a slower rate then Naruto's Shadow Clones that still doesn't change the Fact that it still started to crumble at a faster rate then Guy's body, what's more the reason why Obito took longer to crumble then Naruto's Shadow Clones was because of his strong will, Take That!
 

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Objection! while it's true that Obito's body did crumble at a slower rate then Naruto's Shadow Clones that still doesn't change the Fact that it still started to crumble at a faster rate then Guy's body, what's more the reason why Obito took longer to crumble then Naruto's Shadow Clones was because of his strong will, Take That!
* begin cross-examination*
HOLD THAT!
Obito took long to crumble because of his strong will, you say?
Well, i disagree with you, defender.
It's just Plot no jutsu who made Obito stay alive till his body gone to ashes.
Have you learn how to give up?
 

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* begin cross-examination*
HOLD THAT!
Obito took long to crumble because of his strong will, you say?
Well, i disagree with you, defender.
It's just Plot no jutsu who made Obito stay alive till his body gone to ashes.
Have you learn how to give up?
Objection! i wouldn't rule out Obito's Strong Will if i were you, do you remember when Obito became the Ten Tails Jinchuriki?
 
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I thought it was because Obito was mostly Zetsu material.

So if anything Naruto's touch should've turned him into a tree.
 

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That....were different...argh i give up. you win for this.
Hold It! i would to like to point out that Obito was crumbling as he was talking to Naruto and after Obito crumbled and died Black Zetsu said this " though i never seen a worm Hang On like that!" when Black Zetsu said that he basically confirmed that Obito was using his Strong Will as well as the last of his Strength to say his Final Words to Naruto before he crumbled and died, anyway seeing how you gave up and told me that i win it's safe to say that Court is now over.
 

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I think he's missing the point of Plot no Jutsu. It is because the WRITER had intended for Gai to survive and not Obito. So the writer wrote the plot to be as such. Plot no jutsu. Plot Shield works in the same way. Look it up, bro.

When an attack lands on the main character that could outright kill any normal character, they don't die. All other secondary characters die, but the main characters made to extend the plot can not die due to plot.

Gai isnt needed anymore, hes not even shown so why would plot save him? Obitos had a far bigger impact on this manga than gai ever will. If it was really for plot then gai wouldve died but obito wouldve been saved
 

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lol this thread. gai is a fodder buddy for kakashi. he doesnt deserve a cool death.
 

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Gai isnt needed anymore, hes not even shown so why would plot save him? Obitos had a far bigger impact on this manga than gai ever will. If it was really for plot then gai wouldve died but obito wouldve been saved

It seems that you are missing the point here.
Gai WAS important. He was the character used to showcase Naruto's new ability to basically save someone from the brink of death. Kakashi only got his eye back. Obito should have died because the Ten Tails was COMPLETELY extracted from him.

It's ALL Plot Shields and Plot No Jutsu.
 
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