[Discussion] I really agreed with Sasuke this chapter

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Damn thats the best idea, Segregate Sasuke to a Danzo like Role without the killing innocents or w.e the crazy shit he did in order to protect the Leaf while Naruto takes his rightful place as Hokage. +rep.
Obviously you haven't read the manga. Danzo was plotting against hiruzen and tsunade the whole time. All he wanted was to be hokage, and hoped to achieve that no matter the cost (konoha being destroyed by pein). Having sasuke play the danzo role won't solve anything.

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Just because a Kakashi is the most respected ninja in the world and a Hokage candidate, it doesn't mean that he is not broken. He kept his head down and be a lapdog for the hokage. Didn't even look into the uchiha massacre. Didn't even question the system. He is broken period...well until now since he got a lil happy ending with Obito.


He never showed any liking for the Uchiha clan. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence?

Its a manga, this isn't some alternate world.

Clearly you just think your Kishimoto.
 

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It was not Kakashi's job to look into the Uchiha massacre. Hiruzen and Danzo knew what went down so there was no reason for Kakashi to investigate it. Hiruzen knew what Danzo wanted him to know-he obviously did not tell him that he threatened Itachi with Sasuke's life. He was part of Hiruzen's ANBU squad, if Hiruzen wanted him to investigate it he would have told him to. Itachi went to Hiruzen after it was over and asked him about keeping Sasuke safe so as far as Hiruzen was concerned it was over.

Kakashi held nothing against the Uchiha. He liked and respected Itachi's abilities and said he would make a good Captain. Obito was his friend and he spent more time training Sasuke than he did with Naruto or Sakura. Maybe he could have done more to change things but he was broken, he was just enduring and not much else.

As for Sasuke he is right about one thing, Itachi would have made a good Hokage with the lessons he had learned and tried to pass on to Naruto. Sasuke is not totally wrong, the system does have to be changed, but he's basing these decisions off of the 1 or 2 days he spent fighting in the war with everyone. The Alliance might have started because of common cause but that is no longer the only reason for it. These people, who thought they had nothing in common and disliked each other just because they were from different villages, have come together, learned to trust each other and view each other as comrades now.

Is Sasuke even taking the time to see what happens with that before he just tanks everything? The hokages have come together too and are no longer fighting amongst themselves. The have admitted they made mistakes. Should they be killed? I don't think so. At the very least Ay and Onoki should be asked to step down but Mei, Gaara and Tsunade did not cause the current situation. Mei and Gaara are trying to set their villages on a better path and Tsunade has been butting heads with Danzo and the elders since she took over. She finally told the elders she would do as she pleases.

Sasuke is right, there does need to be changes, but he took the wrong lessons from Itachi's life. This is not the lesson Itachi wanted him to learn. Itachi wanted him to go back to the village and strengthen his ties not annihilate them. I just don't think that someone who spent his time in caves and hideouts with Oro since he left the village is really qualified to say what needs to change because he's been away from it for so long.
 
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Obviously you haven't read the manga. Danzo was plotting against hiruzen and tsunade the whole time. All he wanted was to be hokage, and hoped to achieve that no matter the cost (konoha being destroyed by pein). Having sasuke play the danzo role won't solve anything.

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The only reason Danzo's situation failed was because Hiruzen refused to do his job and keep Danzo in check. Had Hiruzen kept Danzo on a tighter leash, and actually took action once Danzo started doing his crazy shit, we wouldn't have had the Danzo issue.
 

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But he was only right about that one thing

Besides that he 1 step behind Naruto. Naruto was going to shoulder everything alone but itachi knew it wouldn't work
 

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I got a complex question: So?

Sasuke is well aware others have died for Konoha nameless and unrecognized. Just because you are self-sacrificious does not mean you can become Hokage or else you can argue for all of the other ninja that died like Itachi did in the shadows. This is not really about Itachi but about Sasuke's ego. It only matters because it was HIS brother. He doesn't give a damn about all the other ninja that sacrificed themselves for the stability of the village. The character has gotten almost no development.
 

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Just because a Kakashi is the most respected ninja in the world and a Hokage candidate, it doesn't mean that he is not broken. He kept his head down and be a lapdog for the hokage. Didn't even look into the uchiha massacre. Didn't even question the system. He is broken period...well until now since he got a lil happy ending with Obito.


He never showed any liking for the Uchiha clan. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
Sasuke was his favourite for quite some time.

Also, your broken, Period.
 

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Nobody is perfect! XD
So then... why post this?

Just because a Kakashi is the most respected ninja in the world and a Hokage candidate, it doesn't mean that he is not broken. He kept his head down and be a lapdog for the hokage. Didn't even look into the uchiha massacre. Didn't even question the system. He is broken period...well until now since he got a lil happy ending with Obito.


He never showed any liking for the Uchiha clan. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
 
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That's why itachi was truly wise on a yoda level

he cared nor for everyone els than he did himself yes he should have been hokage but he realized you are more powerful with friends at ur side then by youself like he stated about minato he never lost sight of his comrads no can do anything by themselves itachi was the only one who could change naruto when he was getting cocky now sasuke is there
 
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