I just dont see how EMS madara beat Muu and Onoki

[Mellanoma]

I'm not making this thread to troll or anything i'm just curious about the fight between young EMS Madara and Muu.

I just don't see them together losing to Madara UNLESS!

They didn't have dust release mastered yet OR Muu has incredibly low stamina when not an edo so after a couple dust shots he is done.

But EMS madara not having Gakido and not using Perfect susanoo (Stating he held back against Muu and Onoki).

How did both of them lose?

I honestly don't see two flying Dust release users losing


Facts we know regarding that fight:

Perfect susanoo was not used as stated by madara when he said he held back against kids
Madara did not have Rinnegan
Madara looked untouched
Muu looked old and Onoki was very young (Possibly didnt know dust release)


Possibility I believe Madara's Fan probably deflected dust back at them

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[xcoyote]

He did beat them for the sake of wank and plot.

 

[hasil5]

U do realize we are talkin about madara uchiha

 

[Mellanoma]

He did beat them for the sake of wank and plot.

I believe so

U do realize we are talkin about madara uchiha

EMS Madara not Rinnegan madara and it sounds like your underestimating Dust release let alone two dust users

 

[Calpal]

It is Madara Uchiha yanno, he does as he pleases.
Just because they have an op tech doesnt mean theyre gonna insta-win against him.

 

[AGoodBoy]

or dust release is overrated and can actually be avoided seeing as it's not instant. Yea, i'll go with this one.
Madara beat their ass down with pure taijutsu and bad-assery.

 

[LUMOS ULTIMATUM]

Madara probably knows the technique's weakness. This guy seems to know everything.

 

[Mellanoma]

It is Madara Uchiha yanno, he does as he pleases.
Just because they have an op tech doesnt mean theyre gonna insta-win against him.

Very true but Madara looked unscratched... AND from what we seen Dust release shreds susanoo

 

[-immortal-]

People are Overrating there Jinton...when both got solod by 1 person

 

[Bubbles The Powerpuff Girl]

EMS Madara turns on his PS, and it's all over.

 

[Mellanoma]

or dust release is overrated and can actually be avoided seeing as it's not instant. Yea, i'll go with this one.
Madara beat their ass down with pure taijutsu and bad-assery.

Madara probably knows the technique's weakness. This guy seems to know everything.

considering Dust release does take awhile to fire off I imagine you guys are right. The only thing is couldn't they have flown lol.

 

[Misconception]

Did you not see the size of Madara's Katon's.??? His taijutsu skills are off the charts aswell...

 

[Bieber]

Jinton needs prep time to form. During that prep time Madara can easily hit both of them.

 

[Nous]

I was under the assumption, Mu was past his prime. Also Onoki was a child, so who knows how powerful he was. Madara has Susano'o which can tank Jinton and Mu/Onoki can't bypass it. Madara has larger chakra reserves than the two as well so he would win..

 

[III HOKAGE III]

Madara was and still is a efffn beast! We still have to wait and see his real power

 

[AGoodBoy]

considering Dust release does take awhile to fire off I imagine you guys are right. The only thing is couldn't they have flown lol.

Flying is also overrated :|

Deidara got his ass handed to him by sasuke and deidara could fly. Flying isn't insta win because you still need to be within range to see. No one will fight so high up that their opponent looks like a moving dot and they can't even see what handseals or whatever they're using. Madara simply spanked them, they're not that strong...

Think about this also. Mizukage beat Muu and mizu can't fly nor does he have a defence to jinton... Let's not also forget that an old oonoki with arguably his best chakra control could only fire off 2 jinton, then a moving earth core and a weighted/lightweight rock tech. The more jinton you use, the less techs you could use to defend yourself. If madara fired off a great fire annihilation and oonoki used a rock golem to block, that's already 1-3 jintons worth of chakra gone.

Tl;dr; Jinton/flying/super speed are all overrated by fans.

 

[Mellanoma]

I was under the assumption, Mu was past his prime. Also Onoki was a child, so who knows how powerful he was. Madara has Susano'o which can tank Jinton and Mu/Onoki can't bypass it. Madara has larger chakra reserves than the two as well so he would win..

susanoo can't tank Jinton. Madara only means to beating it was Absorbing it BUT I remember madara Fan reflected a Bijuu dama

 

[Mellanoma]

Flying is also overrated :|

Deidara got his ass handed to him by sasuke and deidara could fly. Flying isn't insta win because you still need to be within range to see. No one will fight so high up that their opponent looks like a moving dot and they can't even see what handseals or whatever they're using. Madara simply spanked them, they're not that strong...

Think about this also. Mizukage beat Muu and mizu can't fly nor does he have a defence to jinton... Let's not also forget that an old oonoki with arguably his best chakra control could only fire off 2 jinton, then a moving earth core and a weighted/lightweight rock tech. The more jinton you use, the less techs you could use to defend yourself. If madara fired off a great fire annihilation and oonoki used a rock golem to block, that's already 1-3 jintons worth of chakra gone.

Tl;dr; Jinton/flying/super speed are all overrated by fans.

I think he used his fan to block Jinton like he did the bijuu dama. If he did do that then onoki and muu were forced not to use Dust release which = GG

Also stop coming up with your own calculations of chakra consumptions lol I do sorta agree though

 

[Darksharinnegan]

basic sharingan solos

 

[Xāvî1]

They didn't have dust release that time