[Theory] I hate Tobi theories, but this one caught my eye....

[Sage of Wings]

Alright, so I've been on NB for a while ( but I just made a profile a few months back for the hell of it) and I know how we all hate Tobi theories swamping the place (when they are dumb ones and spam). But I ran across something that might have helped push the "Tobi = Madara" or "Tobi = Obito" theory.

I'm on FB and I am a part of a group called "Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm 2". Now I joined them because I liked the game on XBox 360, and the guy who runs it posts good art work at times. Now lately He has been posting footage and pictures for the new "Naruto Shippuden Generations" game, and something today caught my eye. What I saw originally was Naruto kicking "Tobi" in the head and "Tobi" blocking it. I thought it was cool, until I read the description of the photo as " Naruto vs. UCHIHA KAGAMI ".

For those who dont know who that is, here is a link and information provided by NaruWiki:

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When I saw this, I was puzzled. I read through the comments and looked for a reason for the name. Apparently the roster for the game has already been set and released to the public. Though I am skeptical, there was one person who had a theory that I liked that I will provide a link for:

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So what do you guys think? (for those who have read through the theory and checked the FB group). Does it sound legit? Did Kishi just pull the ultimate facepalm? And what about the possibility of Kagami? their isnt a confirmation of death, so he could be a possibility. So please, give input.

 

[Owarij]

The fox knew tobi, so no, tobi would have to be someone kyuubi met before, and considering kyuubi has been sealed in uzumaki hosts most of the time, the time when he was outside would be the key, to finding out who he is, 1) Someone old enough to be around after so6p splt the juubi

2) Someone around the time where madara controlled the kyuubi as a pet

 

[Yashin]

post the picture?

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

tobi is not obito. if the fox most likely knew who tobi was and the only person to ever tame with the the fox with sharingan was madara. then tobi is madara but cloned from zetsu. that is why he is shell of his former self that much is true

 

[Famine]

There are too many assumptions to be made regarding Kagami. All we actually know, other than that he was an Uchiha, is that he participated in the First Great Shinobi War along with other notable characters. The main problem I find with Kagami is that there's absolutely nothing that suggests he could Tobi. Izuna and even the elder son (to a degree) both have greater motivation to be Tobi, and more evidence surrounding them.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

"After that he roamed to the world until he learned about the Kyuubi incident.He suspected that an uchiha was behind the attack".

Tobi was behind the attack.So no its not Kagami.

 

[Vroqrak]

The fox knew tobi, so no, tobi would have to be someone kyuubi met before, and considering kyuubi has been sealed in uzumaki hosts most of the time, the time when he was outside would be the key, to finding out who madara is, 1) Someone old enough to be around after so6p splt the juubi

2) Someone around the time where madara controlled the kyuubi as a pet

agreed :|

 

[Sage of Wings]

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Here is the image (hopefully)

 

[Sage of Wings]

"After that he roamed to the world until he learned about the Kyuubi incident.He suspected that an uchiha was behind the attack".

Tobi was behind the attack.So no its not Kagami.

well i still liked the theory, many people doubted the possibility that madara was in the final coffin and he was there. But still, this was something that caught my eye...

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

tobi is not obito. if the fox most likely knew who tobi was and the only person to ever tame with the the fox with sharingan was madara. then tobi is madara but cloned from zetsu. that is why he is shell of his former self that much is true

 

[Sage of Wings]

tobi is not obito. if the fox most likely knew who tobi was and the only person to ever tame with the the fox with sharingan was madara. then tobi is madara but cloned from zetsu. that is why he is shell of his former self that much is true

Did you read what I was saying? I was suggesting that Kagami is another possibility. I dislike the thought of Obito being a candidate. Plus there are many theories still floating around on that one...

 

[Akin347]

I don't know...the hair on Kagami looks a lot like Tobi's when he was wearing his swirly mask.You can only wonder...

 

[FallingLeaf]

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Here is the image (hopefully)

that just looks like a drawing

 

[Uchiha Paulsama]

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Here is the image (hopefully)

ive seen this before, is the person you talking about on facebook names narutogenerations?

 

[Owarij]

Did you read what I was saying? I was suggesting that Kagami is another possibility. I dislike the thought of Obito being a candidate. Plus there are many theories still floating around on that one...

Obito is definitley out of the question, not only does the fox know tobi, but madara knows tobi, and madara definitely didnt live long enough to meet obito, added to what i said earlier, kagami really has no reason to kill his clan off,

You also need to realize, who ever Tobi is, has strong connections and memories connecting to Madara and izuna - Look

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See how he clenches his arm tighter when he thinks of his brother giving his eyes? , why would kagami or obito, people not related or involved in that incident harbor strong feelings about it?
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Look again, see him start shouting? "What did my brother sacrifice his eyes for?!" ​

Now look

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Tobi, actually believes he is Uchiha Madara, even down to konan's last breath, he sticks to his story,not changing a word


Now we have a scene where tobi keeps his story about giving nagato his eyes,

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[opt4shenanigans]

There are too many assumptions to be made regarding Kagami. All we actually know, other than that he was an Uchiha, is that he participated in the First Great Shinobi War along with other notable characters. The main problem I find with Kagami is that there's absolutely nothing that suggests he could Tobi. Izuna and even the elder son (to a degree) both have greater motivation to be Tobi, and more evidence surrounding them.

OH MY GAWD ... I JUST HAD A EPIPHANY. THE MASKED MAN COULD INFACT BE IZUNA! When fighting Konan, the Masked Man claimed to have given the Rinnegan to Nagato and was retrieving what was originally HIS. WE KNOW THAT IZUNA GAVE MADARA HIS EYES FOR THE EMS. MADARA leveled up to the Rinnegan shortly prior to his death! The Rinnegan is a stage in the maturity of the sharingan (3 tomoe, MS, EMS, Rinngan). Izuna loaned his brother's Rinnegan to Nagato/Pain, so that he could manipulate him. THIS IS HOW MADARA KNOWS OF NAGATO. THIS IS HOW THE MASKED MAN ACQUIRED A SAMPLE OF SENJU CELLS. THIS IS WHY MADARA TRUSTS HIM. THIS IS WHY THE MASKED MAN SYMPATHIZES WITH ITACHI'S SACRIFICE! EVERYTHING ALLEIGNS!

In addition, the psychological profile already made in the thread entitled,

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also FITS FOR THE CHARACTER OF IZUNA.

mind = blown

 

[Owarij]

OH MY GAWD ... I JUST HAD A EPIPHANY. THE MASKED MAN COULD INFACT BE IZUNA! When fighting Konan, the Masked Man claimed to have given the Rinnegan to Nagato and was retrieving what was originally HIS. WE KNOW THAT IZUNA GAVE MADARA HIS EYES FOR THE EMS. MADARA leveled up to the Rinnegan shortly prior to his death! The Rinnegan is a stage in the maturity of the sharingan (3 tomoe, MS, EMS, Rinngan). Izuna loaned his brother's Rinnegan to Nagato/Pain, so that he could manipulate him. THIS IS HOW MADARA KNOWS OF NAGATO. THIS IS HOW THE MASKED MAN ACQUIRED A SAMPLE OF SENJUS CELLS. THIS IS WHY MADARA TRUSTS HIM. THIS IS WHY THE MASKED MAN SYMPATHIZES WITH ITACHI'S SACRIFICE! EVERYTHING ALLEIGNS!

In addition, the psychological profile already made in the thread entitled,

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also FITS FOR THE CHARACTER OF IZUNA.

mind = blown

izuna gave madara his eyes, thus he had no eyes in his socket, how could he give eyes to nagato/




also added to my previous post

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notice the "Supposed to be for me" , recent chapters show that their plan was for Madara to be revived by rinnetensei at a later date by nagato, why say me? it once again adds to the theory that somehow tobi is indeed Madara

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

OH MY GAWD ... I JUST HAD A EPIPHANY. THE MASKED MAN COULD INFACT BE IZUNA! When fighting Konan, the Masked Man claimed to have given the Rinnegan to Nagato and was retrieving what was originally HIS. WE KNOW THAT IZUNA GAVE MADARA HIS EYES FOR THE EMS. MADARA leveled up to the Rinnegan shortly prior to his death! The Rinnegan is a stage in the maturity of the sharingan (3 tomoe, MS, EMS, Rinngan). Izuna loaned his brother's Rinnegan to Nagato/Pain, so that he could manipulate him. THIS IS HOW MADARA KNOWS OF NAGATO. THIS IS HOW THE MASKED MAN ACQUIRED A SAMPLE OF SENJUS CELLS. THIS IS WHY MADARA TRUSTS HIM. THIS IS WHY THE MASKED MAN SYMPATHIZES WITH ITACHI'S SACRIFICE! EVERYTHING ALLEIGNS!

In addition, the psychological profile already made in the thread entitled,

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also FITS FOR THE CHARACTER OF IZUNA.

mind = blown

but it just showed that izuna was dead in the coffin with the other uchiha who died aswell sorry but not izuna. tobi is who he says he is which is madara. he is a cloned verson of madara thru zetsu. this is why he keeps saying he is a former shell of himself. nagato betrayed throwing tobi/madara plans completely off scale to the point were he had to start a war in order to continue with tobi/madara and madaras plan. cuz in the lastest chapter edo madara spoke of the same plan tobi told them

 

[Sage of Wings]

Obito is definitley out of the question, not only does the fox know tobi, but madara knows tobi, and madara definitely didnt live long enough to meet obito, added to what i said earlier, kagami really has no reason to kill his clan off,

You also need to realize, who ever Tobi is, has strong connections and memories connecting to Madara and izuna - Look

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See how he clenches his arm tighter when he thinks of his brother giving his eyes? , why would kagami or obito, people not related or involved in that incident harbor strong feelings about it?
​

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Look again, see him start shouting? "What did my brother sacrifice his eyes for?!" ​

Now look

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Tobi, actually believes he is Uchiha Madara, even down to konan's last breath, he sticks to his story,not changing a word


Now we have a scene where tobi keeps his story about giving nagato his eyes,

mhmm, I understand. I also can see this point for this. But this wouldnt be a good debate if I didnt have a (moderate) counter:

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Read were they talk about him lying about Tobi being Madara. This makes it so everything from before can be completely deminished. And if you want to go DEEPER into it, the word "brother" can also refer to someone who is someone who is of close relation, your actual brother, OR someone figuratively who is a brother figure. Ever heard of "Anonymous"? they arnt one person thought they fall under the same name. They are a mass, the rules still apply. So this could still work in a Kagami Theory.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

izuna gave madara his eyes, thus he had no eyes in his socket, how could he give eyes to nagato/




also added to my previous post

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notice the "Supposed to be for me" , recent chapters show that their plan was for Madara to be revived by rinnetensei at a later date by nagato, why say me? it once again adds to the theory that somehow tobi is indeed Madara

i strongly agree that tobi is indeed madara. but he was cloned thru zetsu that why he is able to regenrate his body back from attacks like konan jutsu and the abruame jutsu.
i think he is madara cloned thru zetsu. once we find more info on zetsu it will explain it