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...ass.

In this chapter, Sasuke one-shot Sasusaku fans, and put in danger the Naruhina fandom.

Sasuke is NOT interested in Sakura. But... Why would he put her in genjutsu then?

Some people may say "he still have feelings for her", but that is not thinking plotwisely, but by denial. A good reader would ask himself the following question:

Why genjutsu instead of rendering her unconscious?

Answer: Sasuke can control the lenght of the genjutsu, as long as the battle goes. If Sasuke or Naruto killed Sakura in battle, Naruto would go all-out against Sasuke, and time is gold in this case: Sasuke needs to finish the battle so he can use the beasts or he will lose too much chakra. Sakura is a potential risk if she is near Naruto... She would imply a waste of time, either by TnJ or by forcing Naruto going all-out.

As you can see, Naruto stated that a genjutsu was not necessary, when in fact, IT WAS.
 
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Sounds legit I agree

Sasuke said she will get in the way
 

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Kishi didn't kill Sakura because later on after all the fightings and the dramas, Sakura will become Sasuke's redemption in an awkward way....

on the side note, Sasuke is just annoyed and anticipated that she will be a pest during his fight against Naruto thats why he wants Sakura out of the picture because he plans to kill the last Jinjuuriki of all bijus...
 

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The thing that fandom don't understand is that if Sasuke really had feelings for her, then it would not be necessary to tell that he is not interested in her 'after' putting her into genjutsu.

Furthermore, if he really had feelings for her, the most logical action should have to be telling that he had interest, so Naruto and Kakashi lowered their guards and thus gaining psychological adventage, but this was not the case.

Well, this is plotwisely thinking.
 

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I agree Sasuke needs Naruto's beasts, but how is Naruto going to end the IT? Gonna grab his rinnegan or wut?
 

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...ass.

In this chapter, Sasuke one-shot Sasusaku fans, and put in danger the Naruhina fandom.

Sasuke is NOT interested in Sakura. But... Why would he put her in genjutsu then?

Some people may say "he still have feelings for her", but that is not thinking plotwisely, but by denial. A good reader would ask himself the following question:

Why genjutsu instead of rendering her unconscious?

Answer: Sasuke can control the lenght of the genjutsu, as long as the battle goes. If Sasuke or Naruto killed Sakura in battle, Naruto would go all-out against Sasuke, and time is gold in this case: Sasuke needs to finish the battle so he can use the beasts or he will lose too much chakra. Sakura is a potential risk if she is near Naruto... She would imply a waste of time, either by TnJ or by forcing Naruto going all-out.

As you can see, Naruto stated that a genjutsu was not necessary, when in fact, IT WAS.
Did you not get the point of this chapter... Sasuke is a stubborn ass.... he smiled right before he did that. He lies to himself and the whole point of this chapter was to show that sasuke's hate needs to change to love. No one one shotted Sasuke/Sakura... that shit has been inevitable... It's Sasuke and Sakura, and Naruto and Hinata. That's IF kishi wants to even show couples. Get over it. TO much hinting over 700 freaking chapters. It would be bad storytelling otherwise.
 

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I agree Sasuke needs Naruto's beasts, but how is Naruto going to end the IT? Gonna grab his rinnegan or wut?

Clearly he needs to convince Sasuke, and viceversa. Sasuke taking the beasts by force won't work... That is pure power, no cooperation at all.
 

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The thing that fandom don't understand is that if Sasuke really had feelings for her, then it would not be necessary to tell that he is not interested in her 'after' putting her into genjutsu.

Furthermore, if he really had feelings for her, the most logical action should have to be telling that he had interest, so Naruto and Kakashi lowered their guards and thus gaining psychological adventage, but this was not the case.

Well, this is plotwisely thinking.

actually.. if you're Sasuke.. and you have one girl.. that loves you no matter what you're doing.. even when you used her.. will you still be able to say "I'm interested in you"? Think a little.. or you have no experience in the love?
 

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The thing that fandom don't understand is that if Sasuke really had feelings for her, then it would not be necessary to tell that he is not interested in her 'after' putting her into genjutsu.

Furthermore, if he really had feelings for her, the most logical action should have to be telling that he had interest, so Naruto and Kakashi lowered their guards and thus gaining psychological adventage, but this was not the case.

Well, this is plotwisely thinking.
Except he is telling this to Kakashi. He is stubborn. The only way he changes is through love. or was this chapter not clear?
He think's he is unworthy of love because of his dead family... Did you not read?...
 

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Did you not get the point of this chapter... Sasuke is a stubborn ass.... he smiled right before he did that. He lies to himself and the whole point of this chapter was to show that sasuke's hate needs to change to love. No one one shotted Sasuke/Sakura... that shit has been inevitable... It's Sasuke and Sakura, and Naruto and Hinata. That's IF kishi wants to even show couples. Get over it. TO much hinting over 700 freaking chapters. It would be bad storytelling otherwise.

He distracted her to put the genjutsu. Get over with the pairing... You don't even got proof of his love for her.

actually.. if you're Sasuke.. and you have one girl.. that loves you no matter what you're doing.. even when you used her.. will you still be able to say "I'm interested in you"? Think a little.. or you have no experience in the love?

He told the thing about interest after she was in the genjutsu, so your argument does not make any sense.
 
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this changes nothing.. come on, mate, you know that.. Sasuke loves Sakura.. but feels unworthy for her love.
 

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this changes nothing.. come on, mate, you know that.. Sasuke loves Sakura.. but feels unworthy for her love.

That is your subjective point of view, YOUR claim. It is your burden to prove it.
 

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The thing that fandom don't understand is that if Sasuke really had feelings for her, then it would not be necessary to tell that he is not interested in her 'after' putting her into genjutsu

I'm still waiting for someone with a logical explanation about why had Sasuke to tell this 'after' Sakura fell into the genjutsu. Otherwise, it would be very unlikely that he really had interest.
 

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...ass.

In this chapter, Sasuke one-shot Sasusaku fans, and put in danger the Naruhina fandom.

Sasuke is NOT interested in Sakura. But... Why would he put her in genjutsu then?

Some people may say "he still have feelings for her", but that is not thinking plotwisely, but by denial. A good reader would ask himself the following question:

Why genjutsu instead of rendering her unconscious?

Answer: Sasuke can control the lenght of the genjutsu, as long as the battle goes. If Sasuke or Naruto killed Sakura in battle, Naruto would go all-out against Sasuke, and time is gold in this case: Sasuke needs to finish the battle so he can use the beasts or he will lose too much chakra. Sakura is a potential risk if she is near Naruto... She would imply a waste of time, either by TnJ or by forcing Naruto going all-out.

As you can see, Naruto stated that a genjutsu was not necessary, when in fact, IT WAS.

Believe it or not, but the Genjutsu was not necessary. It is obvious that Sakura knew the fight was inevitable, but you miss the part where she is trying her last game because when you love someone, you have hope for them changing. Besides, you are the one in denial with a one-sided analysis. You still think Sakura can love anyone she wants and come back to naruto if she fails. Aren't you thinking Naruto is a trash where losers come to rest. You really think Naruto will leave Hinata who offered her life twice to save his ace and go with a loser Sakura.

besides, you even ignore the part where naruto reminds Kakashi that he will bring Sasuke back to Sakura. See, NaruSaku is a goner, and VIVA Naruhina. Basically, I don't care but you can see my argument. Naruto is someone who is pre-qualified for Hokage position. If he takes Sakura, it will be an act out of pity, not love. I can say this:

Naruto x Hinata is 100% confirmed. Sakura might remain just like her master Tsunade, unless Sasuke come back or does not go with Karin.
 

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Believe it or not, but the Genjutsu was not necessary. It is obvious that Sakura knew the fight was inevitable, but you miss the part where she is trying her last game because when you love someone, you have hope for them changing. Besides, you are the one in denial with a one-sided analysis. You still think Sakura can love anyone she wants and come back to naruto if she fails. Aren't you thinking Naruto is a trash where losers come to rest. You really think Naruto will leave Hinata who offered her life twice to save his ace and go with a loser Sakura.

besides, you even ignore the part where naruto reminds Kakashi that he will bring Sasuke back to Sakura. See, NaruSaku is a goner, and VIVA Naruhina. Basically, I don't care but you can see my argument. Naruto is someone who is pre-qualified for Hokage position. If he takes Sakura, it will be an act out of pity, not love. I can say this:

Naruto x Hinata is 100% confirmed. Sakura might remain just like her master Tsunade, unless Sasuke come back or does not go with Karin.

I'll do it step by step so we can read well.

Believe it or not, but the Genjutsu was not necessary.

I already proved it was. Sasuke had 3 options in this point of the manga.

1) If Sasuke left her unconscious instead of using genjutsu, there would be a high possibility of Sakura going later into the battlefield and this would have been a risk for both Naruto and Sasuke.

2) If Sasuke killed Sakura in that place, there is a high chance that Naruto were going all out against Sasuke (and even Kakashi), and Sasuke's plans would have been in danger.

3) (the most logical option) Sasuke put her into genjutsu. This is the most apparently inofensive action he could use at the moment, the less risky for his plan of fighting Naruto.

It is obvious that Sakura knew the fight was inevitable, but you miss the part where she is trying her last game because when you love someone, you have hope for them changing.

Agreed. But this does not mean that Sasuke had feelings for her. This only proves that Sakura loves him. This is the common confusion of the SasuSaku fandom.

You still think Sakura can love anyone she wants and come back to naruto if she fails.

And here is where you failed to counter me. I never said Sakura was going to come back to Naruto (in fact, where in the manga Sakura genuinely told that she loved Naruto? Please, I'm a proof guy... don't put words on me).

I only said that she would never forgive Sasuke if he put a finger on Naruto, because everyone knows she loves Naruto as a brother (kinda the feeling of Naruto towards Hinata, based on manga of course).

This said, your argument has been blown because a misinterpretation of yours. Inténtelo nuevamente más tarde :)
 

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That is your subjective point of view, YOUR claim. It is your burden to prove it.

1) He acknowledged Sakura's Intellect in part 1
2) He protected her numerous times in part 1
3) He went berserk with the curse mark when the sound shinobi beat her up after asking who did it to her.
4) He was mad at himself that he couldn't save her from Gaara
5) He thanked her for the time they had before he left
6) He noticed her when he arrived on the field
7) He smiled when she showed her byakugou power and even gasped at it
8) He caught her when he teleported to she and Obito
9) He repeated the same line he did to her before he left Konoha after listening to all her words
10) He didn't harm her but once again knocked her out before stating she would come after them

If she's so meaningless to him, why give her so much of his day? You want the reason why he used genjutsu on her? Probably as others have said, because he either doesn't feel worthy of her or because he believes his feelings of her will get in the way of his ambition. Using the genjutsu to make it look and feel like he stabbed her could possibly permanently repel her from him.
 
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