I don't understand the logic people use here....

[Mrmojo8484]

It's like people refute Manga facts that have not been debunked to better their argument.

This has nothing to do with the fact that these are 2 of my favorite characters, I'm just using them as examples.

Manga fact: Ay stated Minato was stronger than him.

People used this Manga fact to instantly kill my argument that he couldn't catch Minato but Minato couldn't hurt him, so I'd call it a stalemate.

But for the sake of this thread, let's say Manga says Ay loses. Next:

Manga fact: No known attacks damaged the 3rd raikage except his own.

Now, when ever I bring up a 3rd raikage vs madara thread, bijuu dama and perfect susanoo is the first thing people say. Or against hashi, they say Buddha statue.

Manga says he tanks these.

I just brought this up because I get annoyed when I can't have a real debate with people because 5th eyes like to say things to their arguments advantage.

Should we just go off Manga facts and not assumptions?

 

[iNotorious]

Manga facts -> everything :I, Words are just words.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

Now I understand hashi and Maddy attacks are on another level, but we can only ASSUME the can hurt the 3rd raikage.

Manga says they cant.

 

[2nd hokage]

Great post I have no issue with speculation just label it so.

 

[Sageof7Path]

Exactly which is why Prime Hirauzen is the strongest Hokage... Hey that's Kishi's description. MANGA FACT!

 

[NukaCola]

Nodoby here takes hype seriously.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

People are ****** here, people are denying Kaguya >> Madara when the manga easily stated that she is the strongest goddess of the Narutoverse and that Madara was only fraction of her power. Lol

 

[solo king]

Exactly which is why Prime Hirauzen is the strongest Hokage... Hey that's Kishi's description. MANGA FACT!

A hyperbole and a fact are two completely different things.

It's manga fact that with his lightning armor active, only his own attacks are strong enough to hurt him. He tanked FRS and defeated the 8 tails without a scratch.


Kishi used a hyperbole during hiruzen vs oro because the third hokage hadn't shown anything previously and it was an easy way to give the readers an idea of his strength.

 

[Sageof7Path]

A hyperbole and a fact are two completely different things.

It's manga fact that with his lightning armor active, only his own attacks are strong enough to hurt him. He tanked FRS and defeated the 8 tails without a scratch.


Kishi used a hyperbole during hiruzen vs oro because the third hokage hadn't shown anything previously and it was an easy way to give the readers an idea of his strength.

It's not an exaggeration you ass clown. KISHIMOTO makes the manga he decides Hiruzen is the strongest and there is no going back! He is forever the strongest Hokage. The sage gives people jutsu... Who's the only character you know that takes Jutsu away? HIRUZEN SARUTOBI! Who is the only one to seal both the hokage away at old age? Hiruzen Sarutobi! Who's the one who was to powerful to be solo'd by anyone else so Kishi had to make him solo himself... You should know by now... Kiddo.

 

[Yugito]

Amen join the club lol I've debated for hours in a stupid debate for this very reason

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Did Ei say Minato was stronger, or faster?

 

[Mrmojo8484]

Amen join the club lol I've debated for hours in a stupid debate for this very reason

lol....yeah I'm pretty much done debating here...i get pissed off too easy.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

Did Ei say Minato was stronger, or faster?

I'm not sure....i would assume he meant faster but people still believe a base rasengan can hurt Ay.

 

[solo king]

It's not an exaggeration you ass clown. KISHIMOTO makes the manga he decides Hiruzen is the strongest and there is no going back! He is forever the strongest Hokage. The sage gives people jutsu... Who's the only character you know that takes Jutsu away? HIRUZEN SARUTOBI! Who is the only one to seal both the hokage away at old age? Hiruzen Sarutobi! Who's the one who was to powerful to be solo'd by anyone else so Kishi had to make him solo himself... You should know by now... Kiddo.

So by that logic, itachi is invincible in full susanno?

 

[AlphaScythian]

People are biased and there are no manga facts other then feats.

There are numerous examples when what some characters said dont go with logic and feats yet people use lame stalemates and say its manga facts U_U

 

[Joseph Gomes]

So by that logic, itachi is invincible in full susanno?

Good to see an Itachi fan who knows the meaning of logic Lol

 

[Sageof7Path]

So by that logic, itachi is invincible in full susanno?

If Kishi says so then I guess. Yata mirror and that blade of sealing are pretty strong by the way.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

If Kishi says so then I guess. Yata mirror and that blade of sealing are pretty strong by the way.

So Itachi survives a multiversal explosion while inside yata mirror? Lol

 

[Sageof7Path]

So Itachi survives a multiversal explosion while inside yata mirror? Lol

Kishi diiiiid say indestructible. The juubi was said to be too big to pass between dimensions using kamui, but then again....

 

[solo king]

If Kishi says so then I guess. Yata mirror and that blade of sealing are pretty strong by the way.

Well there's not a whole lot I can say after that. You either understand the context of kishi's writing or you don't.