i dont think human ninja can beat hiruzen or minato and naruto

[Darksharinnegan]

in the event of being surrounded by enemies all jonin level


hiruzen escaping could use earth clone and dig away
killing using one seal picks dirt off the ground with his chakra transforms it to a tornado of millions of flying weapons

minato escaping ftg
killing takes two marked kunai throw one in the air the other behind it going faster uses shuriken shadow clone to make hundreds of clashing kunai flying everywhere kills them all

naruto escaping fly away
killing releases kyuubi

 

[Unbiased]

in the event of being surrounded by enemies all jonin level


hiruzen escaping could use earth clone and dig away
killing using one seal picks dirt off the ground with his chakra transforms it to a tornado of millions of flying weapons

minato escaping ftg
killing takes two marked kunai throw one in the air the other behind it going faster uses shuriken shadow clone to make hundreds of clashing kunai flying everywhere kills them all

naruto escaping fly away
killing releases kyuubi

The bold sections either could never happen or are not canon in the slightest. Hiruzen can't create tornadoes, minato shadow shurriken kage bunshin is not canon, and naruto cannot fly lol.

 

[Darksharinnegan]

Kabuto solo's all with edo tensei your argument is invalid.

although i stated human ninja and specially stated edos and oro was seperate from this

minato, naruto and hiruzen would all kill kabuto although they could eventually be killed by the edos

 

[Expulso]

Yeah, we all knew that already..

 

[Thundergod123]

I agree with this, Minato, Hiruzen and Naruto could possibly be unbeatable even a shinobi are a human or not, besides Minato will never give up until he finished the job and the same goes for Naruto and Hiruzen too.

Only Edo Madara as a human can beat them I think, Minato can counter most of his attacks or dodge all of them or he can seal him with the ftg ( but that's not easy ), or he can summons so many frogs he wants and try to annoying Madara.

Naruto can only use Bijuu or SM to beat him even Madara using his wood release dragon techs

As for Hiruzen, just maybe

 

[Darksharinnegan]

The bold sections either could never happen or are not canon in the slightest. Hiruzen can't create tornadoes, minato shadow shurriken kage bunshin is not canon, and naruto cannot fly lol.

in both the manga and the anime hiruzen completely unprepared for battle levitates the tile on the building top transforms them into shuriken and moves them in the direction he pleases

in both the anime and manga naruto can jump extremely high and extremely fast and can use clones or summons midair to change direction

in both the anime and manga it is stated the each hokage must study the konoha scroll which has detailed information on both shadow clone technique and edo tensei so yes minato can definatly do it

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

1000% d*ckriding

 

[Shodaime Swagkage]

what do u mean human ninja? aren't they all human....

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[Darksharinnegan]

1000% d*ckriding

without a charactor or technique or group of charactors and techniques why did you even comment?

 

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they are not all humans pain for example could probably beat them if they didnt have info on him cuz he's just a dead tool of nagatos

 

[Narutofan4203]

without a charactor or technique or group of charactors and techniques why did you even comment?

OP,
Hiruzen is fodder and get's trashed if Hashi/Tobirama were trying, but PNJ
Obito>Naruto Naruto needed Kakashi's Help
Madara >> Minato it dosen't matter if he runs away thats' not fighting
Minato Can't even take a 4 armed susano'o let alone final or perfect
Minato loses against all genjutsu
Minato only wins battles of speed
/thread

 

[Unbiased]

in both the manga and the anime hiruzen completely unprepared for battle levitates the tile on the building top transforms them into shuriken and moves them in the direction he pleases

in both the anime and manga naruto can jump extremely high and extremely fast and can use clones or summons midair to change direction

in both the anime and manga it is stated the each hokage must study the konoha scroll which has detailed information on both shadow clone technique and edo tensei so yes minato can definatly do it

(QUOTE from Darksharinnegan)hiruzen escaping could use earth clone and dig away
killing using one seal picks dirt off the ground with his chakra transforms it to a tornado of millions of flying weapons

minato escaping ftg
killing takes two marked kunai throw one in the air the other behind it going faster uses shuriken shadow clone to make hundreds of clashing kunai flying everywhere kills them all

naruto escaping fly away
killing releases kyuubi (END QUOTE)

1: You said dirt not tiles and its not canon or even in the anime of ninja's taking dirt and transforming it into weapons. Just because he can use all 5 elements doesn't mean you can just make up moves. There is no move where the user takes dirt and creates weapons from it.

2: That doesn't mean he can fly. Only onoki and muu can fly as they are the only known users. Onoki's son and niece don't count due to onoki temporarily allowing them to fly.

3: It has never been stated that they must study the scroll ever in the manga.

 

[Unbiased]

OP,
Hiruzen is fodder and get's trashed if Hashi/Tobirama were trying, but PNJ
Obito>Naruto Naruto needed Kakashi's Help
Madara >> Minato it dosen't matter if he runs away thats' not fighting
Minato Can't even take a 4 armed susano'o let alone final or perfect
Minato loses against all genjutsu
Minato only wins battles of speed
/thread

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[Narutofan4203]

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hiruzen fanboy get out, i know they were perfect
but it was stated they were toying with him
Hiruzen = Fodder please deal with it rofl
he will never be mentioned again
RDS proves nothing, it's a draw when it's used

 

[Unbiased]

hiruzen fanboy get out, i know they were perfect
but it was stated they were toying with him
Hiruzen = Fodder please deal with it rofl
he will never be mentioned again
RDS proves nothing, it's a draw when it's used

It was stated they were toying with him only when he was in the genjutsu. If he had said they were toying with him in the beginning or they were going to toy with him the entire time it would be a different story. But the scenario given was they were toying with him while he was in a genjutsu.